11:12:23 <mleonova> #startmeeting fedora-design
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11:12:37 <riecatnor> hello!
11:12:43 <mleonova> alright, yay!
11:12:46 <riecatnor> here :)
11:12:48 <mleonova> hi riecatnor
11:12:50 <mleonova> =)
11:12:58 <mleonova> should we do a role call?
11:13:08 <riecatnor> sure
11:13:21 <mleonova> .hello mleonova
11:13:22 <gnokii> hehe riecatnor
11:13:24 <zodbot> mleonova: mleonova 'Maria Leonova' <mleonova@redhat.com>
11:13:30 <riecatnor> hey gnokii!
11:13:33 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
11:13:33 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
11:13:45 <riecatnor> .fas riecatnor
11:13:46 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor '' <riecatnor@gmail.com>
11:13:58 <mleonova> sweet
11:14:14 <mleonova> #topic open floor
11:14:34 <gnokii> some things
11:14:34 <mleonova> anybody has anything to discuss  first?
11:14:48 <gnokii> we have to do the media sleeves
11:15:43 <gnokii> next thing who will be on flock for design clinic?
11:16:01 <riecatnor> As long as my funding gets approved I will be there
11:16:05 <mleonova> 1. okay. any ideas? 2. I hope to be there
11:17:36 <gnokii> not really
11:17:41 <mleonova> riecatnor, I have a cold, can you help me running the meeting, please?
11:17:51 <riecatnor> of course mleonova
11:17:56 <riecatnor> ok so what are the media sleeves for
11:18:02 <riecatnor> is there a ticket?
11:18:14 <gnokii> riecatnor: there is  no ticket
11:18:17 <mleonova> #chair riecatnor mleonova
11:18:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: mleonova riecatnor
11:18:39 <mleonova> gnokii, let's make one to track it more easily
11:18:49 <mleonova> also what's the deadlie?
11:19:41 <gnokii> https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-design-tasks.html
11:20:26 <gnokii> after our schedule it was yesterday
11:20:36 <mleonova> gnokii, haha
11:20:58 <riecatnor> gnokii, is there a link to see past artwork for this?
11:21:28 <gnokii> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F22
11:23:37 <riecatnor> since we are behind deadline, would it be in our best interested to change to 24 on this artwork?
11:24:24 <riecatnor> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F23
11:24:26 <riecatnor> or this one
11:24:48 <mleonova> riecatnor, 23 looks pretty straightforward
11:25:04 <gnokii> riecatnor: there are still some days left dont worry
11:25:14 <mleonova> we could just change the background
11:25:56 <mleonova> can you do that, riecatnor? gnokii, you?
11:26:39 * mleonova is wondering if this has been discussed at the previous meeting, too
11:26:39 <gnokii> I have not really time, today is just meetings, I still have a lot tasks open
11:28:59 <gnokii> i dont know usually not
11:29:10 <mleonova> riecatnor, let's discuss this later with Mo
11:29:18 <riecatnor> ok, that works
11:29:28 <riecatnor> I am available to work on it, I am just wondering what the requirements are
11:29:47 <mleonova> mizmo will know for sure ;)
11:30:37 <mleonova> ok, great
11:31:06 <mleonova> should we move on to tickets?
11:31:17 <gnokii> yupp
11:31:22 <riecatnor> yeah!
11:31:47 <mleonova> riecatnor, go ahead ;) you've done this before
11:32:28 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/434
11:32:29 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/434"
11:33:04 <mleonova> #topic open tickets
11:33:06 <riecatnor> looks just about finished
11:33:29 <riecatnor> mizmo is on 434
11:33:40 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/402
11:33:40 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/402"
11:34:06 <riecatnor> oh jeez, this one is still hanging around :P
11:35:12 <mleonova> guess ryanlerch is not here
11:36:08 <gnokii> nope we have to find for that one a solution during fad
11:36:18 <riecatnor> ok thats works for me
11:36:27 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/447
11:36:27 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/447"
11:36:41 <mleonova> oh that's mine
11:36:50 <mleonova> done I think
11:37:03 <riecatnor> would you like to close it then?
11:37:17 <mleonova> sure
11:37:20 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/405
11:37:20 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/405"
11:38:07 <riecatnor> I can email decause asking for notes on this one
11:38:29 <mleonova> riecatnor, sounds good
11:39:06 <gnokii> huhu mizmo_
11:39:15 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/414
11:39:16 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/414"
11:41:11 <mleonova> is it done?
11:41:22 <riecatnor> looks like elioqoshi added some new artwork.. not sure if its been reviewed yet
11:42:47 <riecatnor> well someone has commented to take out the “di”
11:43:05 <riecatnor> so I will point that out
11:44:01 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/414
11:44:14 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/427
11:44:14 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/427"
11:44:48 <mizmo__> hi
11:44:54 <mizmo__> i just spent the past 30 minutes trying to connect from my car
11:45:02 <mizmo__> this meeting time simply doesn't work for me
11:45:23 <mizmo__> is anybody even here for it?
11:45:30 <riecatnor> yep, we are running it now
11:45:33 <riecatnor> in the middle of tickets
11:45:38 <mleonova> me, riecatnor and gnokii =)
11:45:54 <mleonova> I'll be fine to have it an hour later
11:46:23 <riecatnor> an hour later also works for me with my current schedule
11:47:37 <riecatnor> mizmo, the ticket we were reviewing was yours https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/427
11:48:23 <gnokii> not for me, would bring me into trouble I stay normally for this one in the office and then bike home to make there famsco meeting, I cant stay longer in the office
11:51:56 <riecatnor> looks like mo is having some issues
11:52:41 <mleonova> yup..
11:53:08 <mleonova> do you wanna go ahead with the tickets?
11:53:17 <riecatnor> welp, lets keep going with tickets and we can discuss the meeting time when mizmo gets a stable connection
11:53:25 <gnokii> yes
11:53:54 <riecatnor> so 427, I think mizmo can probably quickly finish that up
11:54:12 <riecatnor> only pngs uploaded anyway
11:54:23 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/428
11:54:23 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/428"
11:55:57 <riecatnor> ok so for this we need a logo or icon
11:56:03 <mleonova> looks like there's still a lot of time
11:56:15 <riecatnor> says latest in june
11:56:17 <riecatnor> which is soon
11:56:35 <mleonova> oh..
11:56:46 <mleonova> the event page says december
11:57:05 <riecatnor> oh yeah i see that
11:57:15 <riecatnor> gnokii, this is your proposed ticket. any thoughts about this?
12:01:28 <riecatnor> my first thought was something like the graphic on the computer for this https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/attachment/ticket/405/khmer_translationday.png but if if the event is to translate many different languages we need something more generic.. potentially like this http://www.gorkahodson.com/media/mywork/work_logo/Translation_1.png
12:01:41 <riecatnor> maybe inside the fedora logo shape
12:01:52 <riecatnor> or one of the speech bubbles has the logo in it
12:02:32 <mleonova> can we indicate it's a challenge somehow
12:02:35 <mleonova> ?
12:03:49 <mleonova> http://www.endare.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/challenges-ahead-900-x-500-900x407.png ;D
12:04:18 <riecatnor> hehe
12:04:25 <riecatnor> I was thinking some kind of ribbon
12:04:34 <mleonova> riecatnor, maybe yeah!
12:04:34 <riecatnor> http://i39.tinypic.com/15hd9ug.jpg
12:04:47 <riecatnor> like that but put in the text windows
12:04:57 <riecatnor> and maybe it can say the event name at the bottom
12:04:59 <riecatnor> I can take this one
12:05:15 <mleonova> riecatnor, would be awesome! you have great ideas!
12:05:17 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/428
12:05:34 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/432
12:05:35 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/432"
12:06:46 <riecatnor> so basically this info needs a redesign
12:07:13 <riecatnor> also I’d like to point out that the graphics for 405 is being used?
12:07:43 <mizmo_> It should match the style of 405 I think
12:08:02 <riecatnor> agreed mizmo_
12:08:37 <mizmo_> I did a lot of research on logic models and there arent a lot of nicely designed ones out there
12:08:49 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- jsedlak updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/437
12:08:59 <mizmo_> And the ones that look like a vis designer was involved are kinda tacky
12:11:21 <riecatnor> ok cool, so we need a redesign of this
12:11:57 <mizmo_> Yeh i dont think its assigned is ot
12:12:06 <riecatnor> not yet
12:12:07 <mizmo_> Er ot>it
12:12:21 <mizmo_> If nobody here wants to take it we can #info it as an open ticket
12:12:46 <riecatnor> ok!
12:13:07 <riecatnor> I don’t think I’ve done that before :P
12:13:17 <riecatnor> #info open ticket https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/432
12:13:17 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- riecatnor raised a point of information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "open ticket https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/432"
12:13:23 <riecatnor> like so?
12:13:30 <mizmo_> Oh there you go perfect
12:13:35 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/437
12:13:35 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/437"
12:14:12 <riecatnor> nice design mizmo_
12:14:23 <riecatnor> I like 7 and 8 :)
12:14:44 <mizmo_> Oh im glad you like it! It was rather tricky!
12:15:03 <riecatnor> seems like this is progressing well, lets keep going
12:15:11 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/445
12:15:11 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/445"
12:15:38 <mizmo_> Reporter needs to give us a lot more
12:16:04 <mizmo_> Also - i wouldnt call the telegram group "fedora college"
12:16:08 <riecatnor> ok, mizmo are you able to comment asking for info?
12:16:15 <mizmo_> Sure
12:16:35 <riecatnor> thanks :)
12:16:45 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/446
12:16:45 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/446"
12:17:21 <mizmo_> I cant login on thr phone :-(
12:17:43 <riecatnor> ok, no problem mizmo_
12:17:43 <mleonova> Web application logo wanted for "Eclipse Infocenter"
12:17:53 <riecatnor> I will comment asking for info on 44
12:17:55 <riecatnor> 5
12:17:55 <mizmo_> # action mizmo comment on 445 <= riecatnor can you type that so it shows up in log
12:18:12 <riecatnor> ok, so you will do it later then
12:18:21 <riecatnor> #action mizmo comment on 445
12:19:19 <mizmo_> For 446 - will have to look up trademark guidelines for eclipse logo to see if we can use
12:19:32 <mizmo_> If not will have to figure something else out
12:19:47 <riecatnor> ok
12:21:54 <riecatnor> hmm, not sure where to find those guidelines
12:22:05 <mizmo_> Upstream somewhere....
12:22:36 <mizmo_> https://www.eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php
12:23:49 <mizmo_> Eclipse logos (including the Eclipse logo, and the logos of Eclipse projects and working groups) cannot be altered without the written permission of the Eclipse Foundation.
12:23:55 <mizmo_> Im thinking avoid it
12:25:15 <riecatnor> Ok
12:27:21 <riecatnor> Not sure what to comment..
12:28:58 <riecatnor> can you comment this one too mizmo_ ?
12:29:11 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/431
12:29:11 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/431"
12:29:14 <riecatnor> this is adorable!!
12:29:39 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/435
12:29:40 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/435"
12:30:01 <mleonova> it was sent to printer yesterday, right?
12:30:19 <mizmo_> Riecatnor can you #action me for 446?
12:30:21 <riecatnor> yep
12:30:42 <mizmo_> Oh im glad you like the py shirt
12:30:46 <riecatnor> #action mizmo_ comment on 446 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/446
12:30:46 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- riecatnor noted an action in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "mizmo_ comment on 446 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/446"
12:30:50 <mizmo_> That is all set, we can close
12:30:59 <mleonova> I love it, too
12:31:05 <riecatnor> 431?
12:31:13 <riecatnor> and also 435?
12:31:25 <mizmo_> Yep 435 went to printers
12:31:35 <mizmo_> \o/
12:31:42 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor closed a ticket on the Design Team trac instance as 'fixed' https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/435
12:31:53 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor closed a ticket on the Design Team trac instance as 'fixed' https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/431
12:31:56 <fedmsg-design> fedbadges.badge.award -- ryanlerch has been awarded the "Four Badgers (Design Team I)" badge https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/ryanlerch
12:31:59 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/436
12:31:59 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/436"
12:33:30 <mizmo_> Hm
12:33:47 <mizmo_> With most of the text straight and fedora on diagonal seems like somethings not right
12:34:02 <riecatnor> Agreed, also the text sizes are too similar but not the same
12:34:10 <mizmo_> Like maybe make the 2nd "choose" diagonal too
12:34:28 <riecatnor> And the first choose and freedom should be the same size
12:34:44 <mizmo_> But i love the bold message and i agree a fresh design would be nice
12:35:13 <mizmo_> I think this just needs a little pushing
12:35:19 <riecatnor> agreed :)
12:35:31 <mleonova> can you guys pls comment on the ticket? =)
12:35:45 <riecatnor> I can :)
12:35:49 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/442
12:35:49 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/442"
12:36:26 <mizmo_> Riecatnor that can be closed but can you assign to me before closing?
12:36:34 <riecatnor> yep
12:36:44 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/442
12:36:51 * mizmo_ isnt getting credits for the design team badges bc im too lazy to assign my tix lol
12:36:54 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/442
12:37:15 <mizmo_> Ok ill bbiab i have to walk into the office
12:37:16 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor closed a ticket on the Design Team trac instance as 'fixed' https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/442
12:37:24 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/443
12:37:24 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/443"
12:38:19 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/436
12:39:16 <mleonova> something's missing on #443
12:39:47 <mleonova> more balloons? bigger letters?
12:40:28 <riecatnor> yes, agreed
12:40:37 <riecatnor> I think the Fedora Logo could be larger
12:40:49 <riecatnor> at least as large as the 24
12:41:13 <fedmsg-design> mailman.receive -- On the badges list, trac@fedorahosted.org replied to '[badges] Re: [fedora-badges] #363: Holiday Maker' http://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/badges@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/W2HFJU6Z44ESEZ5VTMI5UV4PCEHDIMP2/
12:41:43 <riecatnor> also all of the text is centered besides the bottom line
12:42:41 <riecatnor> balloons could be centered, and a little more offset. meaning have the green one poke out at the top more
12:42:55 <riecatnor> any other thoughts?
12:42:59 <riecatnor> gnokii, thoughts
12:43:00 <riecatnor> ?
12:44:43 * mizmo back
12:45:27 <mleonova> riecatnor, I think we should just comment on the ticket, too
12:45:54 <riecatnor> ok mleonova, are you able to comment that stuff?
12:46:02 <mleonova> sure thing
12:46:11 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/444
12:46:11 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/444"
12:46:19 <riecatnor> welcome back mizmo
12:46:28 <riecatnor> looks like 444 is done
12:47:33 <mizmo> riecatnor, yep thats done
12:47:40 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor closed a ticket on the Design Team trac instance as 'fixed' https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/444
12:47:53 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/438
12:47:53 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/438"
12:48:37 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- mleonova updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/443
12:49:18 <riecatnor> this ticket is open
12:49:22 <riecatnor> anyone interested?
12:50:56 <riecatnor> #info open ticket https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/438
12:50:57 <mizmo> riecatnor, before anybody takes this i want to confirm from the anaconda team that they are ok w this
12:50:57 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- riecatnor raised a point of information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "open ticket https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/438"
12:51:02 <riecatnor> ah, ok
12:51:18 <riecatnor> I would have to agree with the thoughts, it could use an overhaul
12:51:18 <mizmo> this ticket is really critical and i dont know who the reporter is so id give a huge grain of salt
12:51:32 <riecatnor> gotcha
12:51:38 <riecatnor> you would definitely know better than me
12:52:02 <gnokii> riecatnor: I was away I had to cook for the little one
12:52:34 <mizmo> the critique is fair i just dont want anybody making a big effort and the anaconda folks arent supportive
12:52:42 <riecatnor> agreed
12:53:36 <riecatnor> mizmo: would you like to follow up on 438 then?
12:54:02 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/438
12:54:24 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/429
12:54:24 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/429"
12:54:26 <mizmo> yep
12:54:59 <mizmo> looks like 429 should be closed
12:55:03 <riecatnor> ill close that
12:55:11 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor closed a ticket on the Design Team trac instance as 'fixed' https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/429
12:55:18 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/199
12:55:18 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/199"
12:56:46 <mizmo> need to talk to puiterwijk on that one
12:58:02 <riecatnor> okey dokey
12:58:32 <riecatnor> looks like you contacted him a couple months ago
12:59:28 <mizmo> #action mizmo talk to puiterwijk re 199
12:59:36 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/374
12:59:37 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/374"
12:59:40 <mizmo> oh im not chair wont work
12:59:54 <riecatnor> #action mizmo talk to puiterwijk re 199
13:00:31 <riecatnor> #chair mizmo riecatnor mleonova
13:00:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: mizmo mleonova riecatnor
13:01:10 <riecatnor> looks like the 4 months have gone by here
13:01:26 <riecatnor> Ill ask if there are updates
13:01:35 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/421
13:01:35 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/421"
13:01:54 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/374
13:03:14 <riecatnor> was this discussed in any recent meetings?
13:03:28 <mizmo> oh
13:03:35 <mizmo> i think for 374... id keep it on hold
13:03:43 <mizmo> we basically will have to figure out 374 after flock
13:04:20 <mizmo> didnt we just close a ticket where i did the updte asked for in 421?
13:04:25 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/429
13:04:25 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/429"
13:04:29 <riecatnor> yes, that oine
13:04:30 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Fonts
13:05:05 <mizmo> oh i see
13:05:09 <mizmo> this ticket is to update the templates
13:05:11 <mizmo> not the guidelines
13:06:39 <mizmo> ok this one should be kept open (421)
13:07:31 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/421
13:07:43 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/279
13:07:43 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/279"
13:09:03 <riecatnor> looks like we are waiting on ryanlerch for 279
13:09:38 <riecatnor> and he has the most recent files
13:10:22 <mizmo> maybe ask for an update?
13:11:07 <riecatnor> yep, Ill do that
13:11:16 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/440
13:11:16 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- riecatnor linked to more information in the "fedora-design" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/440"
13:11:44 <mizmo> that should be a websites ticket
13:11:54 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- riecatnor updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/279
13:13:13 <riecatnor> mizmo, Type at bottom says “Website Design” for 440
13:13:25 <riecatnor> oops for 279
13:13:28 <mizmo> yeh but this isnt website design
13:13:39 <riecatnor> ah, kay
13:13:40 <mizmo> this is changing something in the metatag for the website - out of our purview
13:13:47 <mizmo> ill file on websites trac
13:14:08 <riecatnor> gotcha, thanks :)
13:14:21 <riecatnor> ok, those are all the open tickets
13:15:52 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/440
13:15:56 <mizmo> okay great
13:16:00 <mizmo> \o/
13:16:29 <riecatnor> oh we wanted to ask what are the requirements for the sleeves
13:16:31 <riecatnor> https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-design-tasks.html
13:16:41 <riecatnor> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F23
13:16:48 <riecatnor> gnokii pointed out that these are due
13:17:07 <riecatnor> mizmo^
13:17:27 * mizmo looks
13:17:39 <mizmo> so i usually use inkscaper's scribus template for the sleeves
13:18:28 <mizmo> i dont know why the sleeve source isnt there but i can dig it up
13:21:18 <riecatnor> ok, thanks :)
13:22:45 <riecatnor> mizmo: is there a reason we only had one design for f23
13:22:54 <riecatnor> for example f22 had many designs
13:23:00 <riecatnor> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F22
13:24:21 <mizmo> riecatnor, we only get the one pressed
13:24:24 <mizmo> workstation 64 bit
13:24:40 <riecatnor> ah i see, so no point in designing them all
13:24:50 <mizmo> yeh i think so
13:25:04 <mizmo> will have to double check
13:25:17 <riecatnor> makes sense
13:25:44 <riecatnor> mizmo, we did open floor a the beginning.. anything you need/want to talk about
13:25:54 <riecatnor> at*
13:26:18 <mizmo> just the FAD travel stuff
13:26:24 <mizmo> oh and this meeting time
13:26:25 <mizmo> lol
13:26:30 <riecatnor> heheh ok
13:26:33 <mizmo> it's really, really hard for me. works in theory, but in practice....
13:26:41 <riecatnor> well right now, my availability is very open
13:26:52 <riecatnor> no one showed up to last weeks 5pm time either
13:27:03 <mizmo> :(
13:27:09 <mizmo> did i sent a note i couldnt make it? i meant to
13:27:11 <mizmo> i was traveling
13:27:35 <gnokii> we should talk how we organize it at FAD
13:27:46 <mizmo> i mean in the end we can keep polling for times but the people who actually show up should determine the best time since theyre showing up - they get a vote i think
13:27:53 <mizmo> gnokii, thats a few months from now tho
13:27:58 <mizmo> and not everyone is going to the fad
13:28:20 <mizmo> if we could do this meeting at 8:00 EST instead of 7:30 EST, i could make it way more reliably
13:28:30 <mizmo> but i think we may miss apac folks
13:28:40 <gnokii> mizmo: that will for me then same time as famsco
13:28:44 <riecatnor> besides gnokii who else shows up
13:29:21 <mizmo> gnokii, what if it was on another day
13:29:25 <mizmo> mleonova shows up too
13:29:39 <riecatnor> oh right :)
13:29:42 <mizmo> riecatnor++ for running meeting
13:29:43 <zodbot> mizmo: Karma for riecatnor changed to 9 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:29:44 <riecatnor> forgot she was in apac
13:29:48 <gnokii> we can try
13:29:51 <mizmo> oh she is emea
13:30:00 <mizmo> ryanlerch is in apac but hasnt been able to make the meetings
13:30:09 <mizmo> i dont know if its the meeting time change confusion
13:30:34 <gnokii> for ryanlerch we might find another solution, he participates more in fedora-magazine now as in design
13:30:56 <mizmo> well the other meeting time is tues
13:31:03 <mizmo> gnokii, can you make 8 am ET on tuesdays?
13:31:43 <gnokii> yeah but I have to do then from home without guarantee to have inet
13:31:56 <mizmo> gnokii, does another day work better?
13:32:29 <mizmo> i just cant do any earlier
13:33:14 <gnokii> mizmo: no its for all the days the same normally the office is closed at 5pm they always look at me that I stay longer and they dont like it
13:34:32 <mizmo> :(
13:34:45 <mizmo> well i dont have to go to every meeting
13:34:52 <mizmo> theres no reason you cant meet without me at the earlier time
13:35:10 <gnokii> its still openfloor?
13:35:13 <mizmo> sure
13:35:43 <riecatnor> I can do the 7am for now.. my schedule may change
13:36:15 <gnokii> we really might look into this on FAD, for now we can stick with the old times and I cant participate
13:36:31 <mizmo> garrett, you can do the orig time 1 hour earlier no?
13:37:04 <riecatnor> the old time was 8am every other thursday, yeah?
13:37:06 <mizmo> gnokii, ^^
13:37:25 <mizmo> it was 12 pm est for a long time
13:37:50 <garrett> when?
13:38:17 <garrett> the calendar was bugging out for me and added hundreds of entries, so I turned it off and (therefore) didn't get a reminder about it
13:38:26 <mizmo> garrett, sorry i accidentally hit your nick instead of gnokii
13:38:46 <garrett> (I haven't been a little while though)
13:38:56 <garrett> 'tis ok (;
13:39:05 <gnokii> we can try an hour earlier
13:39:16 <mizmo> gnokii, okay 7 am et?
13:39:20 <mizmo> i dont know the utc offhand
13:39:28 <mizmo> i cant make that every time, but i can try
13:39:43 <mizmo> i can probably make it sometimes
13:40:09 <gnokii> we can try
13:40:26 <riecatnor> so same time 7am est on wednesdays?
13:41:17 <mizmo> yeh
13:41:41 <gnokii> mizmo: can we speak about  fad travel i fear we have no a small problem
13:41:46 <mizmo> gnokii, sure
13:41:49 <gnokii> now not no
13:43:09 <gnokii> as we planned we thought flock will be like always from wednesday, now the start tuesday and KRK is not an often used airport so riecatnor and me would have to start on sunday after FAD to arrive before flock starts
13:43:19 <gnokii> sunday flights are more expensive
13:43:50 <mizmo> gnokii, its ok to leave on the sunday
13:44:02 <mizmo> fads are usually only 2 days at most anyway
13:44:20 <mizmo> we're splitting the cost with the flock budget
13:44:25 <gnokii> yeah but the calculated sum for the flights will be much higher
13:45:26 <mizmo> gnokii, its not too much higher. one idea we had was the FAD would pay for you guys to get to BOS and flock would pay for BOS=>KRK=>home
13:45:41 <mizmo> with that,your flight would be $880, riecatnor's would be $100 out of the FAD budget
13:45:47 <gnokii> aah ok then it works
13:45:47 <mizmo> and the flock ones would be $2590 / $1380
13:46:00 <mizmo> but i dont know for 100% if thats how its going to go, im still working with them
13:46:24 <gnokii> mizmo: we should talk with decause or mattdm how we deal exactly with it
13:46:41 <mizmo> gnokii, i am talking with decause on it. he had a meeting last night but i havent heard back how it went
13:46:49 <riecatnor> decause told me yesterday they are currently working on it
13:47:17 <mizmo> gnokii, i just fwded you the latest i have. it'll work out
13:48:06 <jflory7> mleonova: Thanks for the ping – couldn't make it today, but should be possible for me next time (plus also easier if the time is bumped forward by an hour too if that's what happens).
13:48:18 <gnokii> yeah I see
13:48:24 <mleonova> jflory7, ok)
13:48:41 * gnokii has to go to the rooftop for a smoke
13:48:53 <decause> we're working out flock travel in the next 48ish hours, yes
13:49:02 <decause> .hello decause
13:49:03 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com>
13:49:25 <riecatnor> do we have anything else to discuss?
13:49:41 <mleonova> riecatnor, wow, almost 3 hours today
13:49:48 <gnokii> I am fine to go by bus to Saigon or Bangkok that should reduce the costs but I have to know before, as Bangkok costs some time
13:50:47 <mizmo> gnokii, can you look up some trips for a cost estimate?
13:52:09 <mizmo> riecatnor, i dont think so
13:52:21 <mizmo> #info meeting schedule will stay the same
13:52:37 * mizmo kicks zodbot
13:53:32 <riecatnor> hmm should i try
13:53:33 <riecatnor> #info meeting schedule will stay the same
13:54:09 <riecatnor> mleonova, I know right :P
13:54:24 <jflory7> Maybe zodbot is a little slow this morning.
13:54:55 <mleonova> jflory7, he fell asleep =)
13:55:06 <mleonova> riecatnor, my personal best :D
13:55:08 <jflory7> .coffee zodbot
13:55:08 <zodbot> masta likes coffee!
13:55:35 <jflory7> Hah, didn't even know that was an alias.
13:55:48 <riecatnor> mleonova: want to endmeeting?
13:56:00 <mleonova> yeah =)
13:56:15 <mleonova> 3
13:56:16 <mleonova> 2
13:56:19 <mleonova> 1
13:56:25 <mleonova> #endmeeting