11:46:02 #startmeeting Fedora Design team 11:46:02 Meeting started Wed Jun 22 11:46:02 2016 UTC. The chair is ryanlerch. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 11:46:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 11:46:02 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_design_team' 11:46:03 mleonova, ryanlerch : Thanks :) 11:46:13 #chair mleonova mshakshober_ 11:46:13 Current chairs: mleonova mshakshober_ ryanlerch 11:46:31 #topic general discussion 11:47:09 are you coming to FAD, ryanlerch ? 11:47:10 11:47:28 mleonova: sadly, i am not going to make it in person to the FAD :( 11:47:37 but i am going to attend remotely 11:47:54 ryanlerch, oh, ok 11:48:08 i am heading to Flock though, so i will be involved in the design clinic for sure at flock 11:48:23 that's great! 11:48:31 mleonova: are you getting to the FAD? and or FLock? 11:48:44 I'll see you there =) I'm going to both 11:48:59 mleonova: awesome! 11:49:05 need to book hotel for Flock, though ;) it's not easy 11:49:11 what else is everyone working on? 11:49:32 i have been trying to get in contact with the Flock planners to see what items we need to do for them 11:49:52 i'm starting to work on the shirt design for Flock 2016! 11:49:53 #chair mizmo_ 11:49:53 Current chairs: mizmo_ mleonova mshakshober_ ryanlerch 11:49:56 I talked to decause yesterday, i think stickster did too 11:50:04 ryanlerch, flock planners - is that Brian, too? 11:50:11 hey mizmo_ ! 11:50:15 hey mizmo_ ! 11:50:22 He was saying maybe to not do the conference lanyard badges as fancy because $$ 11:50:32 Hello frm my car ;-) 11:50:52 hi mimzo :) 11:50:56 For the t-shirt we will probably use same vendor as the prague shirt 11:51:04 mizmo_: fair enough -- we can still do designs and mailmerges for printed out ones for them too 11:51:05 Morning mshakshober_ :-) 11:51:48 ryanlerch: yeh i think maybe we design for paper print outs and we get those cheap plastic sleeves. So we need to figure out which sleeves and design for that size 11:52:03 mizmo_: awesome. 11:52:21 mizmo_, and what about laminated badges - are those expensive? 11:52:33 For the booklet - ryanlerch you have a nice setup for generating those right? Can previous years be used as a template? Are those online anywhere? 11:52:34 once we have a shirt desing, we tend to use that on the other items too usually 11:52:45 mleonova: i think decause ws saying too $$ 11:52:49 mizmo_: yeah i have them in our github 11:52:58 * ryanlerch has not moved them to pagure yet 11:53:04 Mleonova but maybe simple lamination would be ok 11:53:17 mizmo_, okay) 11:53:18 but knowing the size they want to print too is pretty much needed before i start 11:53:22 Ryanlerch ok sweet. Yeh in general i think we gotta do a mass kigration to pagure 11:53:33 I would imagine it would be cheaper to laminate paper than buy sleeves 11:53:49 but what do I know ;P 11:54:06 Ryanlerch do you know the size we used for prague? Since they are close i think they were thinking abt using same vendors and keeping things very similar to how Prague went 11:54:28 Ryanlerch so for booklet maybe we just dictate tothem the size based on what prague was 11:54:58 Mleonova totally makes sense - do you know any vendors that could do the badges around brno? 11:55:18 Im assuming we could get someone in brno to bring to krakow 11:55:27 mizmo_, uhm.. not me exactly, but I can ask the person who ordered those for devconf 11:55:48 mleonova: oooh great idea! That would be awesome. 11:55:50 mizmo_: yeha i am not sure who did the booklets for praha 11:57:01 I wonder if they had booklets. Ryanlerch im not so familiar with the a1 a2 a3 family of paper sizes... i think budget is tight wondering if the one smaller than a4 for booklet would be good (and easy to carry?) 11:57:32 mizmo_: a5 is half of an a4 (similar to letter) 11:57:36 In apac we did... maybe a2? It was like half the size of a4 - versions of the selinux coloring book and it came out neat 11:57:43 Ah ok it was a5 then 11:57:55 mizmo_: that is what i will aim for 11:58:01 What if we did booklets a5? 11:58:35 at the very least someone can print them out in the office in BRNO 11:58:41 if budget is tight 11:59:37 Ryanlerch if you can make a design without any bleeds... so a white margin.... could print on a5 in brno office then staple 11:59:52 But i dont know if budget is *that* tight 12:00:23 Lets assume not, from what I remember printing in brno is a lot cheaper than us 12:00:52 mshakshober_: so you are on tshirts 12:01:01 okay, either way, it should be okay i think 12:01:03 ryanlerch: you are on booklet right? 12:01:08 yea definitely! 12:01:16 mizmo_: yes! 12:01:17 mleonova: you are on getting info about devconf badges? 12:01:27 mizmo_, trying, yeah 12:01:34 Anything else we need? 12:01:37 #action ryanlerch to open ticket for Flock booklets, and do them 12:01:53 Oh yes we need tickets for everything 12:02:06 #action open tickets for lanyard badges and tshirt 12:02:29 Gnokii did all of the fedora badges we need except party badge 12:02:40 I opened a ticket for that, dont have it handy :-( 12:02:40 huhu 12:02:47 Hey gnokii 12:02:49 awesome 12:03:04 Do you want to do the party badge too? The party is going to be on a boat 12:03:36 I feel like we might be forgetting smtg - was there anything else in your list in the email ryanlerch? 12:03:37 if I would go for the brewery boat we had in prague with the pirate party badge 12:04:49 ah signs! 12:04:58 gnokii: I don't know the specifics but iirc decause said it would be similar to the prague boat 12:05:05 but that we will need more input from the organizers 12:05:08 there is a thing to do before, all the flock stuff 12:05:10 on room numbers, names 12:05:33 ryanlerch: room numbers / room name signs... anything else? "Registration" ? 12:05:40 ryanlerch: https://flock2016.sched.org/ 12:05:52 makes the room names clear ;) 12:06:05 Oh good 12:06:14 yeah, i usually just put them on an a3 size, or something 12:06:20 we def need a ticket for it 12:06:26 Is there going to be a lounge area? Open hackfest area? 12:06:38 #action mizmo create ticket for flock signs 12:06:41 #action open ticket for signs for flock 12:06:45 #undo 12:06:45 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by ryanlerch at 12:06:41 : open ticket for signs for flock 12:06:47 Haha great minds... 12:06:55 :) 12:07:16 Who knows what our deadlines are :-/ we're at 5 weeks out now right 12:07:25 yeah, i think ASAP 12:07:36 but the shirt design is the first i think 12:07:49 since its going to be the one that will def need to be printed 12:08:01 mshakshober_: can you put aside all your other work items and focus on the tshirt only today? 12:08:02 and we re-use that desing on other things 12:08:27 mshakshober_: did bex reply to the email i sent last night asking about krakow? 12:08:45 can we take care before all this on the DVD for f24? 12:09:08 gnokii: i thought inkscaper did that - did he only do sleeves? 12:09:09 sure, i'll make shirts my priority today 12:09:21 and i'll check my mail right now 12:09:43 mshakshober_: great! (I totally get that its super early now lol, sorry) 12:09:45 well the sleeves but they fit not to what pjp needs on the end but he doesnt realize it 12:10:07 gnokii: oh boy, what size does pjp need? 12:10:16 it didn't look like i had any mail from a "bex" 12:10:33 see the ticket I measured it, he is really to stupid to communicate it 12:10:36 mshakshober_: brian exelbeird i think 12:10:55 mshakshober_: there was a woman on the ticket too cant remember her name. Subject line had "flock" in it. They may not have gotten back to us yet. 12:11:04 i think we are sorted with flock stuff now, right? 12:11:29 gnokii, mleonova - as the resident europeans here can you suggest any krakow highlight to incorporate in design? 12:11:44 the wawel 12:11:44 ryanlerch: yes thank youso much for getting the ball rolling on that 12:12:29 mizmo_: awesome! glad we have started! 12:12:34 gnokii: is it a castle? Do you know anything abt its history / what its known for? 12:12:42 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawel 12:12:59 mizmo_: a castle and church i think 12:13:17 yes its a castle Unesco cultural heritage once seat of the king of poland 12:13:20 (Thanks) 12:13:59 mizmo_, uhm, not really, never ben 12:14:04 *been 12:14:21 Ah i think wawel was used for fedora community blog post on flock 12:14:23 there are heaps of good cc-liceneced photos of it on wikipedia that we can use as a basis for a vectorization too 12:14:32 Sweet 12:14:37 Brian should know, though, if anything 12:15:03 mshakshober_: so i think we should start w research on wawel and come up w some basic concepts and run them by brian 12:15:14 Sweet 12:15:33 Oh just as a general announcement 12:15:37 Ill topic it one sec 12:15:38 once i get in today, i'll do some research! 12:15:47 #topic modularization 12:16:02 So langdon invited me to the modularization project meeting yesterday 12:16:17 They are working on modules which are kind of higher level than packages 12:16:39 It might affect a lot of fedora stuff - our infra web apps, how apps get installed, etc etc 12:16:49 So they wanted to sync up with us 12:16:54 I think its early stages 12:17:05 They have their own ux designer which is exciting 12:17:30 mizmo_: nice! 12:17:34 Thats about what i know, i think after the red hat summit they are going to be in touch with us 12:17:56 We may need to think about some fedora website changes as a result 12:17:58 Ok 12:18:12 Have we hit the ticket queue yet? Weve got about 10 min left right? 12:18:58 #topic other 12:19:20 I think the f24 media art is probably the most urgent ticket right now 12:19:48 we definitely have to look at alexanders designs the font looks so strange 12:20:02 Did he post his sourcesm 12:20:14 not yet just previews 12:20:54 I guess first step is to ask for his sources 12:21:08 Do you know the ticket number offhand? 12:22:01 .design-team 542 12:22:01 gnokii: Error: You don't have the rss capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. 12:22:07 aargh 12:22:11 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/452 12:22:11 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- ryanlerch linked to more information in the "Fedora Design team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/452" 12:22:13 #542 12:22:37 why does .design-team not work? 12:23:43 mizmo_: no we hadnt done the queue review yet 12:24:49 Ugh what a frustrating ticket 12:26:10 yeah, for me is most frustrating he wasnt enabled to tell as last release the exact needs and then I explained to all what is what and what we need and now this 12:26:17 I dont understand why he wont talk to vendor to get specs 12:26:43 mizmo: the problem is that the vendors there have no idea either 12:27:12 they really want AI files here and editing the shit 12:27:19 Well it looks like inkscaper is going to work on labels so i think he'll get the design done its just a matter of getting a version pjp can use 12:28:26 * gnokii has here already the first fail print but fortunately it diffs from the proof I signed 12:28:59 gnokii: is that an f24 print or f23? 12:29:22 gnokii: can you take a photo of it? It might help to explain to pjp the problem 12:29:36 gnokii: do you know what vendor did it? 12:30:29 no i dont know which vendor it is, he said he talked with the vendor and the vendor said there is no bleed needed 12:30:47 I know just that the vendor sucks 1/3 of the DVD doesnt work and the sleeve sucks also 12:32:06 but lets make tickets next meeting is soon 12:40:43 are we pretty much done? 12:41:26 ryanlerch, I don't think we have time to go through tickets? 12:44:20 no, we might need to cover this on the list, or next week 12:44:40 i'll end the meeting, but we can keep disciussing of course :) 12:44:44 #endmeeting