14:17:54 <mizmo> #startmeeting design-team 14:17:54 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 3 14:17:54 2016 UTC. The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:17:54 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:17:54 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'design-team' 14:17:55 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.start -- duffy started meeting "design-team" in #fedora-design 14:18:04 <mizmo> #topic roll call 14:18:04 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "roll call" in #fedora-design 14:18:07 <mizmo> .hello duffy 14:18:08 <zodbot> mizmo: duffy 'Máirín Duffy' <fedora@linuxgrrl.com> 14:18:26 <pgpattison> .hello pgpattison 14:18:27 <zodbot> pgpattison: pgpattison 'Palmer G. Pattison' <palmeranimates@gmail.com> 14:18:40 <M1C4HTRON13> .hello mciahdenn 14:18:41 <zodbot> M1C4HTRON13: mciahdenn 'Micah Denn' <micah.denn@gmail.com> 14:19:14 <mizmo> sweet 14:19:19 <mizmo> #topic open floor 14:19:19 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design 14:19:25 <mizmo> lets just have a quick open floor before we dive into tickets 14:19:31 <mizmo> does anybody have anything they were hoping to bring up this meeting to talk about? 14:20:18 <pgpattison> what's been up w/ the last few meetings? been getting reminders by email, been showing up, but no meeting 14:20:38 <mizmo> pgpattison - i was out for about 3 weeks because of a family medical emergency 14:20:50 <pgpattison> oh, sorry, didn't know :-( 14:20:55 <mizmo> and there were at least two meetings during that time 14:21:09 <mizmo> it's ok, im really sorry about that. the mtg announcements are automated and i didn't think to stop them. 14:21:19 <mizmo> i was kind of hoping somebody would step up and run the meetings in my absence :-/ 14:21:20 <pgpattison> no prob, just wondered 14:21:21 <mizmo> but it's ok 14:21:34 <mizmo> we're here now :) 14:21:43 <pgpattison> hope all is well 14:21:56 <mizmo> we did change meeting times too because it was very early US east coast time and we weren't getting as many folks showing up 14:22:00 <mizmo> so it's all been very confusing 14:22:25 <mizmo> totally fair, and things are a bit better now :) 14:22:36 <mizmo> anything else or we'll go to ... the tickets! 14:22:53 <pgpattison> I'm good for tickets 14:23:02 <mizmo> coolio 14:23:06 <mizmo> #topic ticket triage 14:23:07 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "ticket triage" in #fedora-design 14:23:19 <mizmo> we now have a lovely pagure.io repo with our tickets migrated over thanks to M1C4HTRON13 :) 14:23:22 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13++ 14:23:22 <zodbot> mizmo: Karma for mciahdenn changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:23:35 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issues 14:23:36 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issues" 14:23:51 <mizmo> looks like it's listing the untriaged ones first which I think makes a good set of tickets to start with so we can get them triaged 14:23:59 <pgpattison> cool, but this mean I should update tickets on pagure instead of fedorahosted now? 14:24:09 <mizmo> pgpattison: yep 14:24:45 <pgpattison> ok. two concerns 'bout that. 14:24:52 <mizmo> sure 14:25:32 <pgpattison> I was told pagure doesn't automatically notify people when tickets are updated. what do I need to do to let people know when I've updated a ticket? 14:27:08 <mizmo> pgpattison: i don't think that's correct - i've definitely gotten notification when someone has called me in a pagure ticket. just make sure you use the reporter's @name when you reply to them 14:27:41 <mizmo> pgpattison: i think there was a concern transitionally that the reporters on trac might not have an account in pagure, but pingou confirmed that the migration script creates their pagure acct 14:27:53 <mizmo> (ive been using pagure.io for fedora hubs for over a year and definitely it notifies) 14:28:14 <pgpattison> oh, so just include @name in the reply, and we're good? see, total n00b question. ;-) 14:29:00 <pgpattison> second, it looks like pagure (at one time) disallowed uploads >4MB. Has that been changed? 14:29:29 <mizmo> yep. it may notify without it but certainly the @ can't hurt. 14:29:30 <pingou> (not yet) 14:29:43 <pgpattison> if not, are we going to have to start uploading assets to another bucket somewhere (say, Google Drive), and add a link to the ticket? 14:29:48 <pingou> @ is needed if you want to notify @<user> 14:29:58 <mizmo> pingou: oh okay thanks! 14:30:10 <mizmo> pingou: is it a possibility to up the 4mb limit for design repo? 14:30:19 <mizmo> pgpattison: well actually thats the other option is upload assets into the repo 14:30:22 <mizmo> in git 14:30:51 <pgpattison> okay. not a coder, aware of git, never used. 14:31:14 <pgpattison> is there an Idiot's Guide to Git/Pagure somewhere? 14:31:19 <pingou> mizmo: it's a config change, should be easy to do, I believe we started a discussion around that on the infra list 14:31:39 <pingou> there is https://docs.pagure.org/pagure/usage.html but it could use some more help 14:32:01 <M1C4HTRON13> git is probably not a great idea for large binary assets 14:32:42 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13: we actually use it on github for large assets hooked up to sparkleshare 14:32:47 <pgpattison> thanks for the docs link. I'll check it out. 14:32:55 <mizmo> pingou: whats the way to move forward with that - infra ticket request? 14:33:28 <mizmo> pgpattison: my main recommendation for using git from a design asset POV would be to install and use sparkleshare. it is a dropbox-like front end on top of git and makes it really easy 14:34:39 <pingou> mizmo: never hurts, I'll have to go through the freeze break request for this but it's doable 14:35:23 <pgpattison> mizmo: okay, I'll look into sparkleshare. 14:35:36 <mizmo> #action mizmo to file infra ticket to increase 4 MB pagure ticket attachment limit for design team 14:35:36 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "mizmo to file infra ticket to increase 4 MB pagure ticket attachment limit for design team" 14:37:07 <mizmo> okay 14:37:14 <mizmo> let's start in with some tickets then shall we? :) 14:37:27 <pgpattison> yes plz 14:37:32 <mizmo> first one is https://pagure.io/design/issue/488 (Create images for L10N roles) 14:38:04 <mizmo> they basically want icons to represent team roles on their wiki page - 14:38:05 <mizmo> Translator 14:38:06 <mizmo> Team coordinator 14:38:06 <mizmo> Localization administrator 14:38:20 <mizmo> so this is primarily an illustration task 14:38:51 <mizmo> i'll mark it as triaged, maybe add tags 'illustration' and 'icon' 14:39:12 <pgpattison> deadline is f26. if nobody grabs it before I'm done with other tickets that need to be done first, I can pick it up then. 14:39:21 <mizmo> this is probably a good one for a newbie so ill add easyfix too 14:40:46 <mizmo> awesome thanks pgpattison 14:41:03 <mizmo> #info ticket 488 open for contributors: simple illustration/icon task 14:41:03 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "ticket 488 open for contributors: simple illustration/icon task" 14:41:28 <mizmo> next up is https://pagure.io/design/issue/486 (Request of mockups for targeted Marketing message related to the Fedora upgrade.) 14:41:35 <mizmo> looks like this one is yours pgpattison 14:42:34 <mizmo> pgpattison: any updates on this one? 14:42:37 <pgpattison> yep. crazy ambitious. trying to build a 30-second animated short by f25 GA. still working on boards, finished one test scene. 14:43:09 <pgpattison> seriously concerned about making deadline on this one. 14:43:35 <mizmo> i marked it as triaged 14:44:21 <pgpattison> don't suppose we have any other animators on the team that i could collaborate with? 14:44:44 <mizmo> i have some animation experience in flash but i dont have flash 14:44:51 <mizmo> what are you using to create it? 14:45:10 <pgpattison> inkscape to build assets, synfig to animate. 14:45:10 <mizmo> it's easier to find people to help if you upload your work in progess to the ticket too so they can see, eg if you can upload your boards and test scene so far 14:45:17 <mizmo> ooh sweet 14:45:32 <mizmo> ive just done short test stuff with synfig but would be interested in helping 14:45:57 <mizmo> how about ill give you an action item to upload your assets so far to the ticket? 14:46:08 <pgpattison> sounds good. 14:46:11 <mizmo> and - how would you think a collaboration would work? would we divy up the animation tasks? 14:46:22 <mizmo> can we figure out how to break it down to divy it up? 14:46:58 <mizmo> #action pgpattison to upload work in progress assets (board + test scene) To ticket #486 14:46:59 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "pgpattison to upload work in progress assets (board + test scene) To ticket #486" 14:47:19 <mizmo> #action pgpattison and mizmo to divy up animation tasks after assets uploaded to ticket 14:47:20 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "pgpattison and mizmo to divy up animation tasks after assets uploaded to ticket" 14:47:20 <mizmo> okay let's move on 14:47:31 <pgpattison> yes, can do 14:47:59 <mizmo> next is https://pagure.io/design/issue/485 (Poster design for Fedora 25 Release Parties) 14:48:18 <mizmo> does anybody have feedback for mshakshober on her design? 14:48:33 <mizmo> i think the main thing it might need is to clearly call out it's a release party? otherwise it's not clear 14:48:39 <mizmo> maybe could put 'release' and 'party' on the cake layers? 14:48:44 <mizmo> any other feedback? 14:49:40 <pgpattison> space between date and "fedora" is a bit tight. let 'em breathe. 14:49:47 <mizmo> okay ill update the ticket with that feedback 14:51:21 <mizmo> oh i see that too. can you post htat as a comment on the ticket? 14:52:07 <pgpattison> mary also seems to think she needs to create the complete poster with location/date/time, doesn't understand that she's providing a template for other people to use. 14:52:38 <pgpattison> (just based on her comment attached to the PNG version) 14:53:30 <mizmo> ok well the next ticket is https://pagure.io/design/issue/484 (Redesign the easyfix page) 14:53:33 <pgpattison> okay, I'll add those comments. 14:53:41 <mizmo> whoah ive never seen this before 14:54:10 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ 14:54:10 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/" 14:54:52 <mizmo> pgpattison: thanks! 14:54:52 <pgpattison> tried the link, got 404'd then redirected to getfedora 14:55:00 <mizmo> this easy fix thing, i wonder if it's what fed into openhatch 14:55:03 <mizmo> really? 14:55:09 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ ? 14:55:09 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ ?" https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ 14:55:11 <mizmo> with the https? 14:55:33 <pgpattison> never mind worked on the second try. must've been a server hurl. 14:56:39 <pgpattison> oh... link in "fm-design" included quote mark after last / 14:57:02 <pgpattison> that'll do it. :-) 14:57:54 <mizmo> it looks like ryan triaged it so marking triaged and uxd 14:59:41 <mizmo> ok so its the top of the hour 14:59:45 <mizmo> i think we should call it a meeting 14:59:49 <mizmo> #topic open floor 14:59:50 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design 14:59:52 <mizmo> anything else? 15:00:08 <pgpattison> question re: ticket #477 15:00:49 <mizmo> #endmeeting