14:06:54 #startmeeting design-team 14:06:54 Meeting started Thu Apr 13 14:06:54 2017 UTC. The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:06:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:06:54 The meeting name has been set to 'design-team' 14:06:54 meetbot.meeting.start -- duffy started meeting "design-team" in #fedora-design 14:08:27 #info note that we had an issue with our pagure account for the past couple of weeks that pingou fixed :) 14:08:27 meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "note that we had an issue with our pagure account for the past couple of weeks that pingou fixed :)" 14:08:59 https://pagure.io/design/issue/504 14:09:00 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/504" 14:09:05 CS50x.ni banners for social media 14:09:09 this one is done so im going to close it 14:11:11 https://pagure.io/design/issue/497 14:11:11 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/497" 14:11:21 Desktop icon request for Portecle 14:11:29 giving some feedback on this one for luya 14:14:29 ok finished that 14:14:56 https://pagure.io/design/issue/510 14:14:56 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/510" 14:15:02 F26 wallpaper tweak (darker lower right corner) 14:15:12 There was discussion on the list aboutthis one, one sec, will link up the ticket to it 14:17:31 pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket design#510: "F26 wallpaper tweak (darker lower right corner)" https://pagure.io/design/issue/510#comment-436700 14:18:53 https://pagure.io/design/issue/503 14:18:54 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/503" 14:18:58 Fedora logo dice 14:20:28 ok looks like i just need to send the vendor a vector file 14:22:11 ok! sent! will close ticket 14:25:35 https://pagure.io/design/issue/502 14:25:35 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/502" 14:25:42 LFNW2017 Sponsor web page 14:26:44 done, looks good, closing :) 14:26:58 https://pagure.io/design/issue/508 14:26:59 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/508" 14:27:04 Refreshed cover for "Getting Started with Fedora" handbook 14:27:59 looks like mary is still working on this one and isn't blocked anymore, leaving it open but adding triage tag 14:28:58 https://pagure.io/design/issue/501 14:28:59 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/501" 14:29:04 Need theming for Ipsilon OpenID Connect authorization page 14:30:09 https://pagure.io/design/issue/491 14:30:09 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/491" 14:30:15 Icons for FAF - also known as Retrace server or ABRT server 14:30:23 looks like reporter needs to provide some feedback so will ask for it 14:32:38 https://pagure.io/design/issue/488 14:32:38 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/488" 14:32:45 pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket design#488: "Create images for L10N roles" https://pagure.io/design/issue/488#comment-436711 14:32:46 Create images for L10N roles 14:33:03 asking modry to move forward with sketches :) 14:33:34 https://pagure.io/design/issue/486 14:33:34 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/486" 14:33:41 Request of mockups for targeted Marketing message related to the Fedora upgrade. 14:35:31 0/ 14:36:53 hey! 14:36:59 so i just read through the thread on that 14:37:10 it looks like they are just looking for something short and memorable to build awareness around how fedora's upgrades work now 14:37:25 there were a couple of story boardish suggestions Micah Denn in the thread 14:37:39 1) user sits down, clicks 'upgrade' on fedora, drinks some coffee, upgrade is done 14:37:57 2) user sits down, clicks 'upgrade' on fedora, orders pizza, fedora is done before pizza arrives 14:38:23 3. user sits down, cat walks across keyboard and accidentally upgrades computer, it's done quickly 14:38:34 theres a few things we have to keep in mind - 14:38:46 - preexisting user misconceptions about fedora (we used to be way worse, it used to work differently) 14:39:01 - emphasizing ease of upgrade (it's one click and a reboot) 14:39:13 - emphasizing speed of upgrade (depends on factors, probably 30 min or less) 14:40:03 i like the coffee and pizza scenarios, maybe we can do another one, e.g., parent reading child a book, person going for a quick run 14:40:42 :( 14:40:48 i would also suggest a beginning title mentioning specifically that we've worked on upgrades and they now are better (in 2017) or something like that 14:41:42 Should we try to include any actual specifics on how upgrades work now? 14:42:11 it might be nice to include an actual screenshot to show the upgrade button 14:44:23 Micah Denn: do you need specifics on the upgrade process to do that? 14:44:25 we can probably have someone provide you screenshots 14:44:34 okay 14:44:50 screenshots would be useful 14:45:26 will the upgrade process be the same as it was last release? 14:46:12 this has a walkthru for f24-f25: https://fedoramagazine.org/upgrading-fedora-24-fedora-25/ 14:46:18 let me see if there is one for f25-26 14:46:20 oh wait 14:46:23 no that's the latest lol 14:47:09 Micah Denn: ^^ so that link basically shows the process. it really is super simple. 14:48:05 it should be the same for f26 14:48:29 Do you think we could get an updated screenshot or should I use the one from the magazine and just change the 25 to 26 in gimp 14:49:33 Micah Denn: what i would do - since it would be nice if the video could be used for longer than just say 1 release.... can you use the one from the magazine, but make the bg on it a generic fedora blue, and just fudge the text to say something like, "A new Fedora is available!" 14:50:19 yeah that's a good idea 14:50:37 so the rough script would be something like 14:50:55 1 - Front title: "Upgrading Fedora used to be a hassle..." 14:51:16 2 - Front title: "We've listened, and made it a simple process." 14:51:29 3 - Fade in graphic of person at computer, typing 14:52:00 4 - Show screenshot (from Fedora mag, generic blue bg, "A new Fedora is available!" text with "Download" button). Show pointer moving to and user clicking on "download" 14:52:40 5 - Show user walking away from computer, have some coffee grinder / coffee maker noises overlaid maybe? 14:53:04 6 - close up of screen - (we need a screenshot of this) - dialog pops up, download complete, reboot to upgrade? 14:53:27 7 - back to full frame shot of computer scene, user walks back into scene holding coffee cup, clicks "reboot" button 14:53:38 8 - close up of user sipping coffee and relaxing 14:53:58 9 - screen close up - upgrade progress finishes and fedora login screen appears 14:54:03 10 - person close up - smilse 14:54:06 something like that? 14:54:09 i guess that's a lot on its own 14:54:12 without more scenarios 14:54:16 ^^ Micah Denn what do you think? 14:55:10 I think I can work with that 14:55:59 maybe a closing title too... "Fedora - now easy to upgrade." with maybe a link below for more info (we'll ask the folks in the thread for a more info link) 14:56:11 Micah Denn: okay cool, so the next step would be storyboard / sketching that, sound doable? 14:59:24 I'm wondering if we could avoid animating and actual person 14:59:46 what if we did it with more of a motion graphics style 15:00:26 eg. we could just have an animation of a coffee cup opposed to somebody getting up and making coffee 15:00:46 if that makes sense? 15:00:47 kind of like how netflix promos do the layered static sprites? 15:02:26 haven't seen them are there any examples on youtube? 15:05:15 theyre running on my tv screen right now lol 15:05:16 sec 15:05:39 like this? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMZpqOS4CCs 15:07:03 no uploading sec 15:08:14 pagure.issue.comment.added -- bee2502 commented on ticket fedora-diversity#2: "Define onboarding steps for bringing in new members" https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/2#comment-436717 15:10:28 Micah Denn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-88qd85lytk 15:12:04 That could work 15:13:55 but I think with vector illustrations for the sprites photos for the sprites 15:14:10 oops that doesn't make sense 15:14:35 *but with vector illustrations instead of photos 15:14:57 ah 15:15:02 i wonder if it'd work as well with vectors 15:15:04 we can see though 15:15:06 i trust your judgment :) 15:15:33 ill copy/paste the rough script into the ticket? 15:15:44 you clearly don't know me well enough :) 15:15:52 yeah 15:16:17 coolio :) 15:16:26 ok im going to end meeting now to cuz we're over. thanks Micah Denn :) 15:16:28 #endmeeting