14:08:42 <mizmo> #startmeeting design-team
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14:08:42 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.start -- duffy started meeting "design-team" in #fedora-design
14:08:43 <mizmo> zodbot: ???
14:08:58 <mleonova> cool
14:09:14 <sam08> hey :)
14:09:24 <mizmo> slow zodbot!
14:09:25 <mizmo> #topic open floor
14:09:25 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design
14:09:34 <mleonova> hey sam08 =)
14:09:54 <sam08> hi mleonova!
14:10:20 <mleonova> I wanted to talk Flock and then to ask for feedback on a pagure issue
14:10:28 <mleonova> mizmo, ^^
14:10:33 <mizmo> hey sam08
14:10:41 <mizmo> sure
14:10:42 <sam08> hey mizmo
14:11:29 <mleonova> so unless someone has anything else for open floor we can talk about Flock?
14:12:05 <mizmo> sure go for it!
14:12:15 <mleonova> #topic flock
14:12:15 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design
14:12:21 <mleonova> heh
14:12:57 <mleonova> ok, so first thing: mizmo, did you get my email requesting the website background svg's?
14:13:24 <mizmo> mleonova: i didn't, but i've not been in this week, i havebeen at red hat summit
14:13:36 <mleonova> mizmo, oh cool! how is it?
14:13:38 <mizmo> i can send to you after the meeting
14:13:45 <mleonova> sure, thanks!)
14:13:53 <mizmo> awesome ;) building circuit boards at one of the booths with attendes
14:14:14 <mleonova> wowza!!
14:14:24 <mleonova> exciting!)
14:14:37 <mleonova> so then Marie and I started talking about what me might want to do at Flock itself
14:15:10 <mleonova> and we have a couple things in mind: first of all to give a talk named "How to inspire designers to do great work for your project"
14:15:45 <mleonova> and I made an outline for that one, and sent you an invite - but I guess you haven't seen that yet
14:15:55 <mizmo> oh i saw your google doc thing, but on the phone, and i didnt open it yet bc of the google doc virus thing
14:16:03 <mleonova> we'd love feedback!
14:16:17 <mleonova> no hurry ;)
14:16:27 <mleonova> do you know when the CFP opens?
14:16:48 <mizmo> i saw that, i didnt open it yet
14:16:49 <mizmo> i wanted to lookat it on the laptop
14:16:50 <mizmo> hopefully next week
14:17:16 <mleonova> gotcha)
14:17:44 <mleonova> ok, and then we were thinking what we could do at Flock as a design team
14:18:06 <mizmo> yeh because its going to be mostly  working sessions at flock
14:18:23 <mleonova> workshops, design clinic, hackathons, user testing..
14:18:30 <mizmo> did you have any ideas?
14:18:50 <mleonova> well, we almost definitely want to do the badges thing again
14:18:59 <mizmo> i have been working on a website template project but i dont know how many people would be interested in hacking on that
14:19:04 <mizmo> user testing is an awesome idea - i want to user test hyperkitty
14:19:31 <mizmo> but i need to talk to abompard to see if he'd have bandwidth to take action on the findings
14:19:32 <mizmo> badges workshop?
14:19:57 <mleonova> cool! yeah - I'd love to do testing! and we thought it would be cool if you or gnokii or someone else even could do an inkscape workshop before badges to familiarize people with the tool
14:20:06 <mleonova> badges workshop, yes
14:20:59 <mleonova> and there might be more cool things I'm not familiar with - summit should be inspiring that way
14:21:13 <mleonova> maybe a contest of some sort with prizes
14:21:23 <mizmo> one thing im not sure of though is the audience - eg if its mostly fedora teams and not new folks showing up, would we get folks interested in coming or would they rather go to their teams hackfests
14:21:24 <mizmo> im not really sure yet
14:21:53 <mleonova> may be, may be
14:22:04 <mleonova> but then we could do it as a FAD :)
14:23:05 <mleonova> guess we'll know more about the audience later
14:23:16 <mizmo> well one thing i did at summit :) i met adsamalik and he showed me in less than 20 minutes how to do 2d animations with blender
14:23:17 <mizmo> he used the technique to make the modularity videos
14:23:37 <mizmo> maybe we could have a hackfest kind of thing to make an  animation for fedora
14:23:40 <mleonova> oh, cool!
14:23:57 <mleonova> that sounds like a lot of fun
14:24:07 <mizmo> i think maybe the expectation is that we'd be team focused and less outreach focused but i can ask on flock-planning and see what the line ist here. we should clear that up for the CFP announcement
14:24:26 <mizmo> bex is at summit - im going to go in soon and see if i can find him and ask
14:24:31 <mleonova> gotcha
14:24:45 <mleonova> hey, ask him if he wants oscon badge for 2016 or 2017 :D
14:25:11 <mleonova> he just created this super urgent ticket and I can't reach him on IRC
14:25:26 <mleonova> (if you find him)
14:25:31 <mizmo> oh did he ask for 2016 hehe
14:25:45 <mleonova> yeah, and he linked to 2015, too
14:27:06 <mizmo> im guessing he means 2017
14:27:06 <mizmo> ill ask
14:27:14 <mleonova> thank you
14:27:35 <mleonova> so that's all I got about Flock for now
14:27:52 <mizmo> ok cool
14:27:52 <mizmo> btw
14:27:53 <mizmo> just got your email
14:28:00 <mizmo> so everything ive been working on is hooked up to sparkleshare on this https://pagure.io/fedora-design/flock2017-design
14:28:03 <mizmo> so the web svg is in the website dir there
14:28:10 <mizmo> ill email it too so you have it for reference
14:28:45 * mleonova is looking
14:28:54 <mizmo> there was a pagure issue you wanted to talk about too?
14:28:55 <mleonova> got it! thank you!
14:28:59 <mleonova> oh yeah
14:29:07 <mleonova> #topic tickets
14:29:07 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design
14:30:03 <mleonova> so Kyle is working on a logo for libseccomp, and he's doing a great job: https://pagure.io/design/issue/467
14:30:33 <mleonova> I've been commenting on it for a while, and I want more people to leave feedback, too
14:31:03 * mizmo looks
14:31:19 <mleonova> this is the latest version on github mockup: https://pagure.io/design/issue/raw/files/44e35f02bbc19cec6f5bc4b9e09105f1762301530357bce356c64b7a8a263f89-github-page-libseccomp.png
14:34:24 <mizmo> i like the abacus bar one but the grid one is good too
14:34:28 <mizmo> this is really good work
14:34:56 <mleonova> I think so too
14:34:58 <mizmo> i would maybe, size the grid down wrt to the logotype? whatdo you think
14:35:35 <mleonova> what do you mean?
14:36:25 <mizmo> just so the logotype is larger with respect to the grid mark
14:36:37 <mizmo> it seems small right now, proportionally
14:36:55 <mleonova> oh gotcha! yeah, makes sense
14:37:11 <mleonova> can you please comment on it?
14:38:20 <mizmo> will do
14:38:36 <mleonova> thank you ^_^
14:39:15 <mizmo> anything else?
14:39:16 <mizmo> sam08: you want to talk wallpaper? we gotta get it packaged soon
14:39:24 <sam08> yep!
14:39:57 <sam08> did you have a chance to take a look at what i linked in the ticket?
14:41:40 <mizmo> not yet! let me look
14:41:41 <mizmo> now that i have a laptop :)
14:41:42 * mizmo has been on phone all week and it's not good for this
14:42:02 <sam08> sure :)
14:42:22 * mizmo waiting for the download
14:43:07 <mizmo> sam08: these look great - thank you! i'll get them on the ticket too, and email luya to package
14:43:09 <mizmo> thank you so much!
14:43:22 <sam08> glad to hear that :)
14:44:05 <mizmo> \o/
14:44:45 <mizmo> hopefully we will have everythign packaged in time
14:44:46 * mizmo checks schedule again
14:45:11 <mizmo> crap the beta freeze was tues
14:45:30 <mizmo> but there is a change checkpoint on may 16? i dont know what that is
14:45:30 <sam08> wasn't it next tue?
14:45:40 <mizmo> well as long as its in final i think we're ok and theres plenty of time for that
14:45:52 <mizmo> the schedule says 5/02 unless im misreading
14:45:53 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/26/Schedule
14:45:53 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/26/Schedule"
14:46:04 <mizmo> OH!
14:46:05 <mizmo> i am misreading!
14:46:06 <mizmo> it is 5/16
14:46:07 <mizmo> PHEW
14:46:10 <mizmo> yay \o/
14:46:31 <sam08> great!
14:46:55 <mizmo> cool
14:46:55 <mizmo> we are in good shape then
14:47:33 * mizmo updating ticket with the files
14:47:48 <mizmo> sam08: do you want another project to work on?
14:48:23 <sam08> uh, sure!
14:50:12 * mizmo checks ticket queue
14:50:50 <mizmo> sam08: we need a darker version of the fedora logo for this issue - https://pagure.io/design/issue/510
14:51:18 <fm-design> pagure.issue.comment.added -- jflory7 commented on ticket design#476: "[Diversity Team] Pagure-friendly icon" https://pagure.io/design/issue/476#comment-439485
14:52:38 <sam08> mizmo, let me have a look
14:53:17 <mizmo> i think right now they have the blue logotype without the infinity logo mark, so they just need the version with the logotype + mark
14:53:27 <mizmo> where the text is fedora blue instead of white
14:54:28 <sam08> like in the standard fedora logo?
14:54:43 <sam08> blue logotype+bubble?
14:55:12 <mizmo> yep exactly
14:55:41 <mleonova> thanks, mizmo and sam08, gotta run to another meeting! bye!
14:55:48 <sam08> can i attach it to the ticket?
14:55:51 <mizmo> they need an svg put in the pagure ticket and then update the bz to let them know it's there
14:55:56 <sam08> bye, mleonova :)
14:56:30 <mizmo> later
14:56:31 <mizmo> sam08: yep you can
14:56:46 <mizmo> its ok if its for a bug
14:57:37 <sam08> mizmo, what about the size? should i keep it the same width of the white logotype or keep the same x-height?
14:59:28 <mizmo> sam08: it should be however the logo guidelines on the wiki dictate
15:00:17 <sam08> of course, mizmo, doesn't the svg file dimensions matter?
15:01:06 <sam08> is it stretched by the extension then?
15:01:07 <mizmo> sam08: i dont think the page size matters here, it gets scaled automatically proportionally (is that what you meant?)
15:01:35 <sam08> mizmo, exactly
15:02:36 <mizmo> sam08: it shouldn't be stretched, it goes proportionally so no worries about the doc size
15:02:50 <sam08> mizmo, okay
15:04:45 <mizmo> okay cool i have to run to the train to get into the city for the red hat summit
15:04:50 <mizmo> lemme capture action items
15:05:33 <mizmo> #action we need a plan for flock, what we'll do as a team. some ideas: badges hackfest, animation with blender hackfest, user testing hyperkitty, fedora bootstrap guidelines hackfest
15:05:33 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "we need a plan for flock, what we'll do as a team. some ideas: badges hackfest, animation with blender hackfest, user testing hyperkitty, fedora bootstrap guidelines hackfest"
15:05:40 <mizmo> #action luya to package beta wallpaper sam08 put together
15:05:40 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "luya to package beta wallpaper sam08 put together"
15:05:48 <sam08> mizmo, reading comments in bz seems they're not sure about the bubble, shall i put in pagure the just a blue logotype too?
15:06:23 <mizmo> #action not sure what to do about animated wallpapers + logo color in lower right
15:06:23 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "not sure what to do about animated wallpapers + logo color in lower right"
15:06:27 <mizmo> sam08: yeh put both so they can decide!
15:06:40 <sam08> mizmo, alright!
15:06:47 <mizmo> #action sam to work on pagure #510 for fedora logo on wallpaper visibility
15:06:47 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "sam to work on pagure #510 for fedora logo on wallpaper visibility"
15:06:48 <mizmo> #endmeeting