18:03:51 <mizmo> #startmeeting design-team
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18:03:52 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.start -- duffy started meeting "design-team" in #fedora-design
18:05:09 <mizmo> mleonova: i dont know if youre familiar with mindshare? but robyduck needs a design/website representative for the mindshare group. do you have any interest in being our rep?
18:05:50 <mleonova> mizmo, I am not. what does a representative do?
18:06:00 <mizmo> hm did i get knocked offline?
18:06:10 <mleonova> mizmo, I see you
18:07:03 <mizmo> let me see if i can find the wiki page, i think it's a cross-team Fedora group kind of like FESCO, but rather than doing engineering steering it coordinates between groups like ambassadors, marketing, design, commops, etc
18:07:31 <mizmo> ok good, for some reason riot is showing everyone in the channel as greyed out / offline, i probably need to update my client
18:07:41 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare
18:07:42 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare"
18:07:43 <mizmo> thats the main page
18:08:06 <mleonova> okay!
18:08:11 * mleonova is looking
18:08:56 <mizmo> mleonova: if you are interested let me know and i can email you and robyduck
18:09:55 <mleonova> sure, I could do it. I don't really know what a rep does, but we'll figure it out ;)
18:10:25 <mizmo> ok sweet :)
18:11:01 <mizmo> ok cool lets see
18:11:10 <mizmo> what else is there to talk about
18:11:22 <mizmo> the wallpaper - i haven't had time to work on it yet
18:11:25 <mizmo> gnokii said he is overloaded and can't work on it
18:11:29 <mizmo> it hink its due in a week or two for beta
18:11:34 <mizmo> then a month to refine for final
18:11:39 <mleonova> oh!
18:12:00 <mleonova> what state is it in right now?
18:12:04 <mizmo> its inspired by emily duncan https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_C._Duncan&sa=D&ust=1518549106520000&usg=AFQjCNGISjO2FsFXBZoyzVtWhGWInL_Jjg
18:12:10 <mizmo> trying to find tifcket #
18:12:47 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/566
18:12:48 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/566"
18:13:09 <mizmo> it would be ok if it ships as-is for beta but i dont think it's final ready
18:13:24 <mizmo> id love to get something further along for beta though since theres such a short time between beta and final freeze
18:13:31 <mleonova> you are right
18:14:05 <mizmo> it might be neat to work one of the new inkscape features into it
18:14:15 <mleonova> what are those?
18:14:31 <mizmo> eg https://opensource.com/article/18/1/9-awesome-new-inkscape-features-and-how-use-them hehe
18:14:40 <mleonova> thanks ;)
18:14:52 <mizmo> so maybe something with mesh
18:15:27 <mleonova> love the mesh and the envelope! really something I was missing
18:16:03 <mleonova> I also see 3d stuff is trendy https://www.behance.net/gallery/60273889/2018-Design-Trends
18:16:08 <mizmo> theres another one ive been going wild with, the bend one
18:16:13 <mizmo> i dont know how long that LPE has been in there but i have been using a lot, eg for my baby seal :)
18:16:39 <mizmo> oh i love the texture of the header image there lool
18:16:48 <mizmo> ooh
18:16:54 <mizmo> im taking a blender clsas now but not sure i can do any of that
18:17:13 <mizmo> very neat though, i could see how it might work with the motif
18:17:13 <mleonova> where are you taking it?
18:17:20 <mleonova> yeah, right?
18:18:05 <mizmo> its a udemy.com series of courses, so just online. i'm doing blender for architecture now. i finished a blender for package design course, so i made some fake fedora box art for it lol
18:18:28 <mleonova> oh cool!
18:18:40 <mleonova> do you have a link? that's sounds very exciting
18:18:50 <mleonova> I didn't know there was such a course
18:19:06 <mizmo> sure, one sec
18:19:28 <pingou> there is another design ticket that is pointing to https://pagure.io/design/issue/raw/files/ which is an invalid url :(
18:19:38 <mizmo> they go on sale all the time, the course price listing is $200 US but i got it for $9.99 from their anniversary sale. most classes go on sale for $10 US every month or so and theres coupon codes too
18:19:51 <mizmo> pingou: we have a ton of those :(
18:19:55 <mleonova> mizmo, oh lol cool
18:20:34 <mleonova> pingou, yeah
18:20:38 <mleonova> in badges, too
18:21:32 <pingou> mizmo: I mean w/o anything else
18:21:37 <pingou> w/o a file name
18:22:06 <mizmo> mleonova: this is the package design one - https://www.udemy.com/learn-blender/
18:22:10 <mleonova> pingou, do you have a link?
18:22:14 <mizmo> this is the architectur eone i'm taking now - https://www.udemy.com/house-design-in-blender/
18:22:25 <pingou> mleonova: no, I just get the error that someone tried to access the url , but I don't know from where :(
18:22:42 <mleonova> they are on Valentine's day sale for 12 euros lol
18:22:45 <mizmo> pingou: ohhh i hadn't seen that :(
18:22:46 <mleonova> pingou, I see
18:23:04 <pingou> but I can tell that mizmo, bex and espasmo triggered it (and some people not logged in)
18:23:04 <mizmo> mleonova: pretty good :) never pay full price!
18:23:38 <mleonova> =)
18:23:43 <pingou> anyway, if you see such url, please adjust it =)
18:23:49 <mizmo> pingou: oh i think it's because sometimes when the links break, only the first part of the link is linked (if that makes sense) but in the page the rest of the URL is there in text (so not lost forever)
18:24:02 <mizmo> could be email client breaking link too
18:24:09 <pingou> could be
18:24:27 <mleonova> pingou, today I couldn't open a single link from email to pagure
18:24:33 <pingou> sorry for interrupting the meeting
18:24:37 <pingou> mleonova: :s
18:24:43 <mleonova> but if I just copy-paste it it's fine
18:24:48 <mizmo> pingou: totally fine you are always welcome!
18:25:01 <mizmo> https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/0c857c60273889.5a4eaf3309c23.jpg  damn thats cool
18:25:01 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/0c857c60273889.5a4eaf3309c23.jpg  damn thats cool" https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/0c857c60273889.5a4eaf3309c23.jpg
18:25:16 <mleonova> oh yeah!
18:25:43 <mleonova> so 3D and a lot of color
18:26:01 <Zacialen[m]> that's cool
18:26:50 <mizmo> i feel like something like this is achievable in the time frame with inkscape :) but not sure how it'd relate conceptually https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/a5854760273889.5a4517b19eff8.jpg
18:27:08 <mizmo> we'd probably get complaints that its too bright too :-p
18:27:25 <mizmo> https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/b2a07160273889.5a4c12e440325.jpg  this i was thinking might be neat if we had the sparks shooting down some of the lines
18:27:25 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/b2a07160273889.5a4c12e440325.jpg  this i was thinking might be neat if we had the sparks shooting down some of the lines" https://mir-s3-cdn-
18:27:26 <fm-design> cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/b2a07160273889.5a4c12e440325.jpg
18:27:28 <mizmo> but im not sure how to achieve something like that in blender
18:27:41 <mleonova> oh that's so cool
18:27:47 <mleonova> wonder how they did it
18:28:19 <mleonova> Cinema 4D and After effects
18:28:20 <mleonova> mkay
18:28:28 <mizmo> he used something called Maxon Cinema 4D as well as illustrator and photoshop but no hint as to technique
18:29:06 <mizmo> there is something like aftereffets that is open source, trying to remember name
18:29:20 <mizmo> natron maybe?
18:29:46 <mleonova> http://ariweinkle.com/#wormholes - check this out O_o
18:30:23 * mleonova is looking
18:30:38 <mizmo> wow!
18:30:52 <mleonova> "Blender - Another Free Program Similar to After Effects "
18:30:54 <mleonova> ha!
18:31:17 <mizmo> no technique tho hehe
18:31:24 <mleonova> yeah..
18:31:52 <mizmo> blender can do some of it not sure how though
18:32:21 <mizmo> this is the guy who did the darker one - http://rikoostenbroek.com/
18:33:37 <mleonova> http://rikoostenbroek.com/#/heybaby love it
18:33:37 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mleonova linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "http://rikoostenbroek.com/#/heybaby love it" http://rikoostenbroek.com/#/heybaby
18:33:45 <mleonova> totally not relevant tho
18:34:21 <mizmo> ll yeh
18:34:22 <mizmo> good brain food though
18:35:08 <mizmo> this tho (same guy) https://www.behance.net/gallery/34766315/arcus
18:35:19 * mizmo looks for tuts
18:35:58 <mizmo> https://www.blenderguru.com/tutorials/make-an-abstract-background
18:35:58 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.blenderguru.com/tutorials/make-an-abstract-background"
18:36:00 <mleonova> yeah! wow!
18:36:51 <mleonova> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmRqlsuSvsw - this might help, too
18:36:52 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mleonova linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmRqlsuSvsw - this might help, too" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmRqlsuSvsw
18:37:11 <mizmo> oh this one look neat https://www.blendernation.com/2011/09/02/tutorial-making-abstract-3d-art/
18:37:51 <mleonova> actually, yeah!
18:38:23 <mizmo> smoke one is crazy cool
18:38:41 <mizmo> this seems to show how to twist it - https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/76969/how-to-make-abstract-em-waves-material-in-cycles/77638
18:39:05 <mleonova> neat!
18:39:37 <mizmo> well maybe some playing in blender would be in order :)
18:39:45 <mleonova> =)
18:41:28 <mizmo> brb
18:44:37 <mizmo> ok! are there any tickets that we need to look at urgently?
18:44:53 <mizmo> i actually did some ticket housekeeping all this morning, things are looking good
18:45:33 <mleonova> I don't have anything
18:45:36 <mizmo> Zacialen: hey there you are! are you interested in joining the team?
18:46:55 <mizmo> we dont have any new tickets that need attention so i think we're good
18:47:14 <mleonova> cool!
18:47:21 <Zacialen[m]> mizmo: yes I would be interested :)
18:47:38 <Zacialen[m]> mizmo: Thanks for the invite. what should I do to contribute?:)
18:48:42 <mleonova> Zacialen[m], if you're interested, you can always start by helping out with badges ;)
18:48:59 <mizmo> Zacialen: cool we usually start off by assigning a ticket to new members to get them familiar with the team / processes
18:49:08 <mizmo> Zacialen: what kind of background do you have? it can help figure out what kind of thing you should work on
18:49:09 <mizmo> yeh badges are a great way to get started :)
18:50:27 <Zacialen[m]> mizmo: I joined the badges team, but I have class whenever they have a meeting :(. I have created some desktop backgrounds before (I am a minimalist), and poster design and yearbook design before
18:50:52 <mizmo> Zacialen: well you dont need to attend meetings to work on badges, most of the work is done in the tickets
18:50:59 <mleonova> yep
18:51:03 <mizmo> Zacialen: do you haveany blender experience? :) ??
18:52:14 <Zacialen[m]> mizmo:  i was not assigned any tickets yet. For blender, I have not experienced yet. I used to know autocad
18:52:46 <mizmo> mleonova: are there any open badge tickets that might be good for a new contributor?
18:52:55 <mleonova> Zacialen[m], you can pick one yourself - start with something marked artwork-easy
18:53:22 <mleonova> lemme see if I can find something now
18:53:33 <Zacialen[m]> brb
18:53:58 <Zacialen[m]> mleonova: sure.. thanks for the help ...brb
18:55:08 <mleonova> Zacialen[m], sure. this one should be very easy https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/596
18:55:23 <mleonova> all you need is to take event template and paste in a logo
18:56:10 <mleonova> template: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/raw/13845bd0531a208f78a3cdec3355769ac0e5cc9093f5dfea0116a7c42f0274de-new_events-template.svg
18:56:39 <mleonova> https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/sites/all/themes/custom/scale16x/img/16x_logo_lg.png logo
18:56:39 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mleonova linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/sites/all/themes/custom/scale16x/img/16x_logo_lg.png logo" https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/sites/all/themes/custom/scale16x/img/16x_logo_lg.png
18:59:51 <mizmo> i gotta run, should i endmeeting or keep it open?
19:00:10 <mleonova> go ahead, end it
19:00:17 <mleonova> I have to go, too
19:00:35 <mleonova> thanks, mizmo =)
19:11:02 <Zacialen[m]> mleonova: thanks for the help. I will try that
19:11:43 <Zacialen[m]> mizmo:  thanks for the help
19:26:11 <mizmo> #endmeeting