17:10:45 <mizmo> #startmeeting design-team
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17:11:07 <mizmo> ok sorry about that apparnetly ive been talking to myself the past 10 minutes
17:11:18 <mleonova> oh ;P
17:11:19 <mizmo> so the big thing i wanted to talk about was f29 wallpaper
17:11:35 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/610
17:11:56 <mizmo> i think the main thing we need at this point is time of day variations
17:13:13 <mleonova> looks very nice
17:13:27 <mizmo> it is it's awesome :)
17:13:45 * bcotton left it as his background after testing the rpm
17:14:51 <mizmo> micahdenn, is that something you're working on or do we need someone to do it
17:14:55 <mleonova> bcotton, yay!
17:16:12 <micahdenn> Yeah I can do that. Can anyone link me to the day/night variations from the previous release, I can't find them on the wiki.
17:16:43 <micahdenn> I just want a reference for how dramatic the colour change was last time
17:16:44 <mizmo> i dont know if we did night/day for f28
17:17:01 <mizmo> https://github.com/fedoradesign/backgrounds/releases/tag/v26.2.1
17:17:05 <mizmo> thats most hte recent i can find
17:17:15 <micahdenn> oh it was 26
17:17:21 <micahdenn> I found it
17:17:24 <micahdenn> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F26_Artwork
17:17:45 <mizmo> oh right
17:18:09 <mizmo> ok cool
17:19:01 <mizmo> all right lets see what other tickets we got
17:19:07 <mizmo> #topic ticket triage
17:19:20 * mizmo kicks zodbot
17:19:30 <mizmo> #topic ticket triage
17:19:45 <mizmo> well, whatever zodbot
17:19:46 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/615
17:19:51 <mizmo> Fedora Appreciation Week - Request for designs
17:20:15 <mizmo> what is the difference between this and fedora happiness packets
17:21:09 <mleonova> happiness packets are permanent
17:21:44 <mizmo> it seems like it's the same thing though
17:22:01 <mleonova> well it's like an app vs an event
17:22:02 <mizmo> wondering if we can do something thematically similar
17:22:12 <mizmo> eg if happiness packets are a cupcake appreciation week is a cake?
17:22:29 <mleonova> probably yeah
17:22:41 <mizmo> also lets talk about the happiness packets logo https://pagure.io/design/issue/606
17:22:42 <mleonova> wonder if those should all be separate tickets tho
17:23:03 <mleonova> oh yay let's)
17:23:43 <mizmo> so i'm 100% cool with all the fedora logo variations
17:24:18 <mizmo> srrry that i misse dthe pagure notifications and just seeing this now :(
17:24:32 <mleonova> no worries
17:24:46 <mizmo> the logotype nags me a bit im not sure why
17:24:56 <mleonova> I think the buttons are still not done, lemme check
17:25:03 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/raw/files/3a8d13670badd2b072bd2f1c4b540e6ced7e97a4cfe5dd32207c0d0f02516225-g2008-2.png   i'm looking at this and the alignment on the left side seems weird
17:25:08 <mizmo> part of it is the nav is off too i think
17:25:52 * mleonova is trying to find the site
17:26:04 <micahdenn> https://happinesspackets-stg.fedorainfracloud.org/
17:26:40 <mleonova> hmm this was stage...
17:27:21 <mizmo> https://happinesspackets.fedorainfracloud.org/
17:27:43 <mizmo> feels like the fedora logo type should be smaller and happiness packets bigger maybe
17:27:57 <mizmo> because fedora jumps out louder than happiness packets
17:28:04 <mizmo> i think the script font makes it quieter
17:28:43 <mizmo> it doesnt look like anybody has used it yet https://happinesspackets.fedorainfracloud.org/archive/
17:29:17 <mleonova> right, okay, so we can totally still work on it
17:29:48 <mizmo> the last commit was a month ago https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/fedora-happiness-packets/commits/master
17:30:25 <mleonova> just about after Flock I guess
17:30:39 <mleonova> wonder what were the results of the hallway testing
17:31:20 <mizmo> i guess GSoC is over? does this project die or is it going to be maintained
17:31:26 <mizmo> I can write PRs for any logo updates
17:31:52 <mizmo> well, in either case I think we should have the appreciation week along the same theme :)
17:31:59 <mleonova> hmm Jona probably knows
17:32:03 <mleonova> yeah, totally!
17:32:59 <mizmo> ok let me note that in the ticket
17:32:59 <mleonova> mizmo, can you please comment on the happuness packets tickets, so we know the status and with the logo comments?
17:33:05 <mizmo> mleonova, sure thing
17:33:39 <mleonova> ty!
17:34:56 <mizmo> ok i got the notes about the logo in the ticket now, now updating the appreciation week ticket
17:35:47 <mizmo> anybody here up for tackling the appreciation week design work?
17:36:21 <mleonova> I can keep working on it
17:36:27 <mleonova> since I did the packets
17:36:37 <mizmo> works for me, thanks :) ill assign it to you
17:36:41 <mleonova> cool
17:37:00 <mizmo> ill look up the specs of the banners for you
17:37:17 <mizmo> i just had to do a facebook banner the other day. altho a little disappointed a fedora thing is being run on facebook :-/
17:37:28 <mizmo> oh maybe they mean an ad banner not a group banner
17:37:52 <mleonova> probably a group cover
17:38:03 <mleonova> for an event
17:38:04 <mizmo> hmm :-/
17:39:08 <mizmo> well
17:39:16 <mizmo> i got the community blog specs lol will update with that anyway
17:42:20 <mleonova> \o/
17:42:39 <mizmo> ok lets see if there are other tickets
17:43:14 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/614
17:43:19 <mizmo> Infographics for a marketing campaign
17:43:39 <mleonova> we need a sample idea
17:43:41 <mizmo> i think this one, you can't do an infographic without content, the content has to come first
17:43:42 <mizmo> yeh
17:43:46 <mizmo> so i'll let this one stand as is
17:43:51 <mleonova> I totally agree with your comment
17:44:18 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/613  New Libravatar (ivatar) logo and some ivatar sponsored by Fedora stickers?
17:44:45 <mizmo> so the app he pointed to gives a 500 error
17:44:51 <mizmo> or, i guess thats 404
17:45:07 <mleonova> says doesn't exist
17:45:14 <mizmo> we need more context
17:45:21 <mleonova> agreed
17:46:11 <mizmo> oh there is this ticket, which oddly isn't linked https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6875
17:47:06 <mizmo> wow this uh, is tricky
17:48:07 <mizmo> so the infra ticket is closed
17:48:10 <mizmo> and this isn't running
17:48:24 <mleonova> karsten
17:48:25 <mleonova> a month ago
17:48:25 <mleonova> FYI: https://blog.libravatar.org/posts/Libravatar.org_is_not_going_away/
17:48:28 <mizmo> its a waste of our time to design something for an app that isn't up and seems to have a tenuous future
17:48:30 <mleonova> soo
17:48:40 <mizmo> heh
17:48:42 <mleonova> is the ticket still valid?
17:48:46 <mizmo> seems like not
17:48:55 <mizmo> maybe we should link to this announcement on both the infra and design tickets
17:49:13 <mleonova> that's a comment on infra
17:49:27 <mizmo> ohhh ok
17:49:32 * mizmo completely missed it
17:49:44 <mleonova> towards the bottom
17:49:53 <mizmo> so libravatar isn't going away, but it seems he still wants a fedora openshift one?
17:49:58 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6875#comment-524682
17:50:56 <mizmo> ok i just commented his app is down and libravatar doesn thave to be replaced
17:51:12 <mleonova> cool
17:51:29 <mleonova> oh hey algogator, any news on happiness packets?
17:52:23 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/612   Collate All Variants of Fedora Sticker
17:53:31 <mleonova> =)
17:53:45 <mizmo> i just asked in that one who is doing the work to build the doc it seems they are looking for
17:53:56 <mleonova> yup
17:54:16 <mizmo> im surprised after all this time there is no good open source tool to do that sort of cataloging thing
17:54:20 <mizmo> everybody writes a custom thing
17:54:44 <mizmo> maybe we just make a new pagure repo
17:54:52 <mizmo> and have one sticker design per ticket
17:55:04 <mizmo> maybe ask for a custom theme to show thumbnails in the listing
17:55:24 <algogator> hello!
17:55:34 <algogator> I'm still working on HP for FAD
17:55:47 <algogator> but I guess we're waiting on the badge design
17:55:47 <mizmo> algogator, what is FAD?
17:56:00 <algogator> fedora appreciation day
17:56:08 <mleonova> I was wondering what is HP =)
17:56:11 <algogator> I think its FAW "week"
17:56:18 <algogator> happiness packets xD
17:56:38 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/627
17:56:50 <mleonova> oh lol ok
17:56:53 <algogator> yep its FAW
17:56:54 <algogator> https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/110
17:56:57 <algogator> my bad
17:57:27 <mizmo> algogator, so you need the badge artwork to be updated with the new cupcake?
17:57:34 <mizmo> mleonova, do you know which cupcake you want to go forward with?
17:57:45 <algogator> yep
17:57:55 <mleonova> mizmo, not sure, but I'll see what looks best
17:58:01 <algogator> we were waiting on the logo
17:58:06 <mizmo> ok cool ill link it to there
17:58:12 <mleonova> glad we're ready to do this now
17:58:13 <mizmo> algogator, you shouldn't have to wait on the artwork to write the yaml etc
17:58:27 * mleonova totally forgot
17:58:41 <algogator> I was hoping sayan would write it or someone from the badge team P:
17:58:44 <algogator> but I can do it too
17:59:37 <mizmo> algogator, is HP in production now? eg can people start using it?
17:59:43 <algogator> yep
17:59:54 <algogator> https://happinesspackets.fedorainfracloud.org/
18:00:12 <mizmo> is there a way to display how many happiness packets have been sent, including anonymous ones, if people are cagey about making them public?
18:00:34 <algogator> hmmm
18:01:18 <mizmo> the other thing is -  fedora.happinesspackets@gmail.com makes it seem unofficial, might want to get an @fedoraproject.org alias from fedora infra, it's a pretty quick process
18:01:50 <algogator> right now I'm anonymizing the names before the messages are published to the fedmsg bus
18:02:17 <algogator> so they the anonymous users should still show up on datagrepper
18:02:33 <mizmo> having a total cupcakes served thing would be cute and would show the site is active
18:02:44 <algogator> ah yes :)
18:02:48 <algogator> that is a neat idea
18:03:32 <algogator> but no I'm not keping track of packets that users don't want public
18:04:46 <algogator> because they don't get pushed to the fedmsg bus
18:07:28 <mizmo> i gotta run
18:07:31 <mizmo> i ihave another meeting
18:07:47 <mleonova> ok, thanks all!
18:08:13 <algogator> thank you!
18:08:21 <mleonova> bye
18:29:39 <mizmo> #endmeeting