13:01:00 <Amita> #startmeeting Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10 13:01:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 10 13:01:00 2016 UTC. The chair is Amita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:01:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:01:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_diversity_team_-_2016_nov_10' 13:01:00 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.start -- amsharma started meeting "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" in #fedora-diversity 13:01:15 <Amita> #meetingname diversity 13:01:15 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity' 13:01:53 <Amita> #topic Roll Call 13:01:53 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of amsharma's "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting changed to "Roll Call" in #fedora-diversity 13:02:05 <Amita> .hello amsharma 13:02:06 <zodbot> Amita: amsharma 'Amita Sharma' <amsharma@redhat.com> 13:02:08 <jonatoni_> .fas jonatoni 13:02:09 <zodbot> jonatoni_: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com> 13:02:17 <Amita> hey jonatoni 13:02:32 <jonatoni_> Hey Amita :) 13:02:59 <Amita> #chair jonatoni bee2502 Rhea jflory7 13:02:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea bee2502 jflory7 jonatoni 13:03:12 <x3mboy> o/ 13:03:16 <x3mboy> .hello x3mboy 13:03:17 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com> 13:03:26 <Amita> #chair x3mboy 13:03:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea bee2502 jflory7 jonatoni x3mboy 13:03:32 <Amita> hey x3mboy 13:03:33 * Rhea waves 13:03:38 <Amita> #topic Announcements and news 13:03:39 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of amsharma's "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting changed to "Announcements and news" in #fedora-diversity 13:03:45 <Amita> hey Rhea , how are you 13:03:55 <Rhea> .hello rhea 13:03:58 <zodbot> Rhea: rhea 'Radka Janek' <radka.janek@redhat.com> 13:04:01 <Rhea> I'm fiiiine (but busy) 13:04:03 <Amita> #info ==== "Diversity FAD is approved" ======= 13:04:03 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "==== "Diversity FAD is approved" =======" 13:04:05 <Rhea> :D 13:04:14 <Amita> Rhea, we all are so :D 13:04:20 <Rhea> Yeah... 13:04:24 <Amita> #link https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/73 13:04:24 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/73" 13:04:46 <Amita> #info ==== Fedora 25 Linux to Offer Better Dual-GPU Integration in the GNOME 3.22 Desktop === 13:04:46 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "==== Fedora 25 Linux to Offer Better Dual-GPU Integration in the GNOME 3.22 Desktop ===" 13:04:51 <Amita> #link http://news.softpedia.com/news/fedora-25-linux-to-offer-better-dual-gpu-integration-in-the-gnome-3-22-desktop-509680.shtml 13:04:52 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "http://news.softpedia.com/news/fedora-25-linux-to-offer-better-dual-gpu-integration-in-the-gnome-3-22-desktop-509680.shtml" 13:05:04 <Amita> #info ==== "code of conduct trac ticket" ==== 13:05:04 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "==== "code of conduct trac ticket" ====" 13:05:10 <Amita> #link https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40 13:05:10 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40" 13:05:20 <Amita> something to keep track of ^^ 13:05:45 <Amita> #info === Flock Stories 2016, Episode 1: Redon Skikuli === 13:05:46 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "=== Flock Stories 2016, Episode 1: Redon Skikuli ===" 13:05:55 <Amita> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-redon-skikuli/ 13:05:55 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-redon-skikuli/" 13:06:13 <Amita> #info === Flock Stories 2016, Episode 2: Jonathan Dieter === 13:06:14 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "=== Flock Stories 2016, Episode 2: Jonathan Dieter ===" 13:06:32 <Amita> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-jonathan-dieter/ 13:06:33 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-jonathan-dieter/" 13:06:51 <Amita> okay, any questions about anything here ^^ 13:06:58 <Amita> jonatoni, great post btw 13:07:01 <Amita> jonatoni++ 13:07:23 <Amita> pass my words to Redon too :) 13:07:37 <jonatoni_> Sure, thanks Amita :) 13:07:42 <Amita> #topic Action items from last meeting 13:07:42 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of amsharma's "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting changed to "Action items from last meeting" in #fedora-diversity 13:07:59 <Amita> as far as I remember, it was mostly for the FAD 13:08:05 <Amita> #chair tatica 13:08:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea bee2502 jflory7 jonatoni tatica x3mboy 13:08:09 <Amita> hey tatica 13:08:20 <Amita> now that it is approved 13:08:24 <tatica> moin! 13:08:30 <Amita> #link https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/73 13:08:31 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/73" 13:08:49 <Amita> we need to go further on planning phase now 13:09:36 <Amita> Rhea and jonatoni would you like to take hotel investigation ( a bit deeper) as we already done this during FAD page writing 13:09:42 <Rhea> So about this, as I already mentioned I live in Brno so I can deal with some stuff if necessary, can also pick y'all up at the airport/hotel, etc... (depends on your flights heh... you could look into a flight to london -> brno, otherwise you will spend ours in a train or bus to get here from prague or vienna) 13:09:59 * Rhea waves at tatica 13:10:10 <tatica> have you think on renting an apartment instead hotels? 13:10:25 <tatica> we used that option twice when we went to LGM and was way cheaper and comfortable 13:10:35 <Amita> Rhea, thank you very much, but timings of arrival for everyone will be different 13:10:39 <tatica> we had a kitchen, so we not only gather at the venue, but gather as a family to cook dinner and breakfast 13:10:42 <Rhea> Amita: i can, not much to investigate tho, the city is relatively small and i can drive you around so no biggie no matter where it is.. 13:11:01 <Amita> Rhea++ 13:11:18 <jonatoni_> Yeah Amita sure 13:11:23 <Amita> thanks tatica , if you can share information on that (if it was in Brno) would be great 13:11:27 <Amita> tatica++ 13:11:32 <Rhea> As far as US peeps go, i recommend going to London and from there to Brno, there are two flights iirc every day 13:11:40 <Amita> jonatoni, Rhea keep option of apartment open 13:11:45 <tatica> it was at vienna and at madrid, but I guess there wouldn't be much difference 13:12:02 <tatica> I will do a quick search to get some references and we can compare 13:12:09 <tatica> could you please tell me the dates again? 13:12:10 <Rhea> I don't think that apartment are much of an option around here, at least i never noticed... 13:12:11 <Amita> great 13:12:14 <Amita> thank you all 13:12:39 <Amita> #action tatica Rhea jonatoni to go deeper in search of accommodation for FAD 13:12:40 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "tatica Rhea jonatoni to go deeper in search of accommodation for FAD" 13:13:02 <x3mboy> I think it should be at January 27-29 13:13:34 <Amita> before devconf 13:13:50 <tatica> where is the venue? to locate places close enough 13:14:04 <x3mboy> Because bex votede +1 only if is before the end of february, so 2nd date in ticket it's not valid 13:14:04 <Amita> tatica, for devconf? 13:14:12 <tatica> yup 13:14:23 <Rhea> Bozetechova street, Brno 13:14:25 <tatica> and how many people from our team will go? (6/7?) 13:14:28 <jonatoni_> The hotel that I have proposed is pretty close the venue 13:14:38 <Rhea> (dont remember exact numbers... university of technology) 13:15:00 <Amita> Faculty of Information Technology (VUT FIT) Božetěchova 2 - Brno 13:15:07 <tatica> Rhea, np, that's good :D 13:15:15 <bee2502> .hello bee2502 13:15:16 <zodbot> bee2502: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <bhagyashree.iitg@gmail.com> 13:15:21 <Amita> hey bee2502 13:15:30 <Amita> tatica, 4 people 13:15:52 <Amita> Rhea and Marina will not stay with us 13:15:56 <bee2502> o/ Amita tatica jonatoni_ Rhea 13:16:13 <tatica> jonatoni_, do you have a price per night? and how many people per room? 13:16:26 <Amita> tatica, what are the general procedure of ticket bookings for FAD 13:16:43 <Amita> I need to write mail to Bex for that, but I am sure you must have an idea 13:17:09 <bee2502> jonatoni_ stayed in an apartment for a conference, I am not sure if it is Brno 13:17:17 <Rhea> hai bee 13:17:27 <tatica> so, look at this for example. apartment for 6 at 41$ per night https://www.airbnb.co.ve/rooms/15778660?checkin=26%2F01%2F2017&checkout=30%2F01%2F2017&guests=4 13:17:43 <jonatoni_> tatica yep, if you check the wiki I've included the prices, sorry I'm on my phine now 13:17:51 <jonatoni_> phone* 13:17:51 <tatica> jonatoni_, np, will check asap! 13:18:22 <Amita> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Diversity_2017 13:18:22 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Diversity_2017" 13:18:38 <jonatoni_> bee2502: that apartment it wasn't available any more, unfortunately 13:18:50 <Amita> hotel Vista, jonatoni ? 13:19:11 <tatica> yeah, Vista and London Hotels 13:19:15 <Amita> yeah, so we need to book rooms/apart asap 13:19:31 <Amita> otherwise we won't get, devconf and qecamp will be there 13:19:31 <jonatoni_> Nope, the apartment that bee2502 mention was something else 13:19:35 <tatica> however, with an airbnb option lodging for everyone could be less than 200$ 13:19:47 <jonatoni_> But even at Vista we can book an apartment 13:20:23 <tatica> it's ok, just droping some options :) 13:21:07 <jonatoni_> Btw we need to ask Bex if he can book our flights and accommodation, or someone else that has a community credit card 13:21:27 <jonatoni_> As we will have lots of expenses 13:21:56 <Amita> #action Amita to write mail to Bex for expense options for FAD 13:21:56 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "Amita to write mail to Bex for expense options for FAD" 13:22:17 <Amita> anything else on FAD? 13:22:35 <Rhea> How long will you stay? 13:23:14 <Amita> 26 - 30 13:23:17 <jonatoni_> About the place that we will use for our meetings I will talk with Jiri so he can find an available room for us 13:23:39 <Amita> that is great, we can involve more people from devconf 13:23:48 <Amita> plan is going in right direction 13:23:55 <Amita> we can do a a lightening talk too 13:24:01 <Amita> jonatoni++ 13:24:10 <Rhea> Count with 15$/day for lunch+dinner 13:24:20 <Amita> .thank jonatoni_ 13:24:20 <zodbot> Amita thinks jonatoni_ is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to jonatoni_++ also) 13:24:32 <Rhea> That's more-less accurate price, but of course you can go higher or less :p 13:24:32 <jonatoni_> Btw Jiri said that even after DevConf they have an available room for us 13:24:56 <Amita> Rhea, please feel free to put your thoughts and suggestions in mail 13:25:05 <Amita> that is great jonatoni_ 13:25:11 <Amita> .thank Rhea 13:25:11 <zodbot> Amita thinks Rhea is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to Rhea++ also) 13:25:15 <jonatoni_> So we can consider to do it even after devconf 13:26:10 <Amita> jonatoni_, okay 13:26:28 <Amita> makes sense 13:26:49 <Amita> let's book before 30th Nov 13:26:57 <jonatoni_> Yep 13:27:01 <Amita> tickets and room/apart. both 13:27:31 <Amita> #agreed We will book tickets and accommodation before Nov 30, 2016 for FAD 13:27:31 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.agreed -- amsharma noted agreement in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "We will book tickets and accommodation before Nov 30, 2016 for FAD" 13:27:49 <Amita> #topic https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/15 13:27:49 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of amsharma's "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting changed to "https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/15" in #fedora-diversity 13:28:16 <Amita> this is for private mailing list 13:28:20 <Amita> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5514 13:28:21 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5514" 13:28:55 <Amita> me and jflory7 did some testing along with jonatoni Rhea 13:29:08 <Amita> but we did not get as expected results for mailing list 13:29:16 <Amita> this is still pending on infra team 13:29:40 <Amita> #action Amita to comment again on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5514 13:29:41 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "Amita to comment again on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5514" 13:30:16 <Amita> #topic https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/14 13:30:17 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of amsharma's "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting changed to "https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/14" in #fedora-diversity 13:30:42 <Amita> this is about - Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team 13:30:57 <Amita> last comment from Justin, which says this needs to be informed to council 13:31:04 <Amita> tatica, you may want to do that 13:31:16 <tatica> of course 13:31:24 <Amita> thanks tatica 13:31:28 <Amita> tatica++ 13:31:58 <Amita> #action tatica will inform council about Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team 13:31:59 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "tatica will inform council about Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team" 13:32:04 <Amita> .thank tatica 13:32:04 <zodbot> Amita thinks tatica is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to tatica++ also) 13:32:16 <tatica> Amita++ 13:32:17 <zodbot> tatica: Karma for amsharma changed to 10 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:32:17 <fm-diversity> irc.karma -- tatica gave amsharma(10) a karma cookie in #fedora-diversity. "Amita++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/amsharma 13:32:20 <Amita> #topic survey 13:32:20 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of amsharma's "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting changed to "survey" in #fedora-diversity 13:32:33 <Amita> this is what we want to cover during FAD mostly 13:32:48 <Amita> do we want to do some prior planning work around it before FAD? 13:32:56 <Amita> bee2502, survey queen :) 13:33:37 <Amita> #link Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team 13:33:38 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team" 13:33:42 <Amita> #undo 13:33:42 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x4a632f50> 13:33:54 <Amita> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity/Survey 13:33:54 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity/Survey" 13:34:11 <Amita> bee2502, you there ? 13:34:18 <Amita> jonatoni, tatica thoughts? 13:35:15 <jonatoni_> Afaik we decided to work on this during FAD 13:35:16 <x3mboy> Hi fellas, sorry I just had an evacuation test in my office 13:35:22 <Amita> okay, so we can discuss on it in next meeting and ofcourse this will take the major priority during FAD 13:35:27 <bee2502> yes Amira 13:35:32 <bee2502> *Amita 13:35:36 <tatica> I think a good goal would be to have a demo by then and try it 13:35:37 <Amita> cool 13:35:49 * Amita nods 13:36:12 <tatica> It's about 3 months now 13:36:14 <jonatoni_> Agree with tatica 13:36:21 <bee2502> I have some questions already which I added to wiki, but we need to discuss how to conduct it. 13:36:39 <Amita> bee2502, drop a mail? 13:36:41 <x3mboy> ! 13:36:42 <tatica> is there any progress with infra? for the survey? 13:36:44 <Amita> or you want to do that now 13:36:53 <Amita> please go ahead x3mboy 13:36:58 <Amita> tatica, nope 13:37:20 <bee2502> mail sounds better as we could discuss each point. But I like having a demo by FAD. tatica++ 13:37:21 <tatica> Amita, then we should focus on that, we can expand the questions on the way 13:37:40 <Amita> tatica, sure 13:37:55 <x3mboy> I think some point in the survey need clarification (for the people who is gonna take the survey), like What is the difference between "chronological Age" and "Biological Age" 13:38:09 <Amita> I am not aware if jflory7 is already have something there with infra 13:38:14 <Rhea> (the same thing i asked a month ago haha) 13:38:34 <jonatoni_> bee2502: better write on mailing list first so we can write there some inputs about it 13:38:36 <tatica> yeah, I don't know either what is that 13:38:46 <tatica> I think the questionaire is too long right now 13:38:49 <Amita> let's keep it simple please :) 13:38:57 <x3mboy> Difference between race, ethnicity and Caste 13:38:58 <Rhea> And I don't'even see the point of asking for biological age. 13:39:04 <tatica> we should simplify it a bit so people don't get bored answering it 13:39:10 <Amita> we want people to fill it, don't want to scare them as if it is a long exam 13:39:25 <Rhea> BOO! 13:39:28 <x3mboy> tatica +1 13:39:30 <Rhea> Oh not that kind of scaring.. sorry 13:39:37 <tatica> hahahaha 13:39:41 <bee2502> we should decide key points we want to gather info about from survey. 13:39:44 <tatica> anyway, we could do this 13:39:58 <bee2502> Is it just for demographic/diversity details for community. 13:40:15 <tatica> we could focus on infra for a month and a half, and if the survey can go up for a testing instance, then give the remaining month and a half to polish the survey 13:40:16 <bee2502> or do we also want to know their experiences with team and other community members 13:40:19 <tatica> what do you think about it? 13:40:39 <Amita> bee2502, both 13:40:45 <Amita> tatica, I liked the idea, yes 13:40:54 <x3mboy> I can look for other comunity surveys, I know i have access at least to 2 other ones 13:41:12 <Amita> tatica, it will give us a user like feel 13:41:19 <Rhea> BTW the hotel Vista has only a few 2-bed rooms left (you're after those i guess?) 13:41:29 <Rhea> nudge nudge... make up your mind fast 13:41:37 <Amita> jonatoni, hurry up :) ^^ 13:41:47 <Amita> ok, so.. 13:41:47 <tatica> Amita, yeah, once we can fill the survey we will get an idea of what needs to be included/excluded/collapsed/etc 13:41:58 <jonatoni_> Yeah will talk with them now 13:42:03 <bee2502> x3mboy, I like the idea ! 13:42:04 <Amita> tatica, +! 13:42:22 <bee2502> tatica, so we are putting all the questions on survey instance right now ? 13:42:36 <bee2502> we will also get an idea of how long it takes to fill the questions 13:42:52 <tatica> bee2502, yup, however, first we need a testing instance, it's far from finish to go public yet 13:42:59 <tatica> bee2502, yeah, exactly 13:43:08 <Amita> #agreed focus on infra for a month and a half, and if the survey can go up for a testing instance, then give the remaining month and a half to polish the survey 13:43:08 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.agreed -- amsharma noted agreement in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "focus on infra for a month and a half, and if the survey can go up for a testing instance, then give the remaining month and a half to polish the survey" 13:43:15 <Amita> we have an action item here 13:43:22 <Amita> if jflory7 has not yet started it 13:43:22 <tatica> bee2502, we could also group them by block, so people can decide to avoid a full block of questions 13:43:26 <Amita> talk to infra 13:44:33 <Amita> any volunteer ? 13:44:43 <bee2502> tatica, it will lead to people skipping longer questions 13:44:54 <bee2502> but we can keep some required questions in blocks 13:45:00 <bee2502> I like the blocks idea. 13:45:01 <tatica> bee2502, probably, but the idea is not to force anyone 13:45:25 <tatica> we might get only 2% of the community answering it, or 90%... 13:45:43 <tatica> but until we see it, we won't be able to make it enjoyable 13:45:50 <Amita> we need to publicize it well 13:46:10 <bee2502> Amita : we can use commblog, once it is ready 13:46:43 <Amita> and few face 2 face talk at conferences (lightening) or at the end of our own talks 13:46:59 <Amita> we can use social media 13:47:04 <Amita> many ways actualy 13:47:44 <Amita> so we have two options here 13:47:59 <bee2502> tatica, I see - but I meant for questions like gender etc, we can keep an option 'I dont want to say' and then make it a required question. This doesnt force them to answer and also gives us some data to understand. 13:48:06 <Amita> 1. go step by step, take action item to talk to infra for testing instnace of survey 13:48:27 <Amita> 2. Discuss it in full detail here and end up having a survey tonight :P 13:49:25 <Amita> bee2502, what to write a mail with everything you have on list? 13:49:48 <Amita> sorry for being bad gal here 13:49:57 <Amita> only 10 mins left 13:50:04 <bee2502> Amita, maybe it could be helpful if we know how the FLOSS survey was conducted. 13:50:15 <bee2502> Amita, yes sure, will send by tonight. 13:50:21 <Amita> thanks bee2502 13:50:23 <bee2502> I understand. 13:50:25 <Amita> .thank bee2502 13:50:25 <zodbot> Amita thinks bee2502 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to bee2502++ also) 13:50:42 <Amita> #action bee2502 will write a mail on diversity list for survey 13:50:42 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "bee2502 will write a mail on diversity list for survey" 13:51:08 <Amita> we can keep rest of the tickets for next meeting and move to open floor now 13:51:14 <Amita> #topic openfloor 13:51:14 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of amsharma's "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting changed to "openfloor" in #fedora-diversity 13:51:47 <Amita> https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40#comment:14 is interesting 13:51:47 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40#comment:14 is interesting" https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40#comment:14 13:51:56 <Rhea> Guys feel free to ping me anytime by the way, i'm usually around... (e.g. if you have a question about brno,...) 13:52:30 <Amita> thank you so much Rhea 13:52:56 <Amita> tatica, jonatoni bee2502 anything or everything you wanna say? 13:53:03 <Amita> jflory7, where are you 13:53:08 <tatica> yeah... there is a lot to work on! 13:53:26 * Amita nods 13:53:30 <jonatoni_> Btw lately I've been to different conferences 13:53:36 <x3mboy> jflory7, was on vacatin at the beginning of the week, I'm not sure if he is around now 13:53:40 <jonatoni_> The last one was in Sofia 13:53:54 <Amita> jonatoni, I know, I see that, I am so proud of you lady 13:53:57 <jonatoni_> Where i had the opportunity to talk also about our team 13:54:26 <Amita> x3mboy, yeah.. just missing him :) 13:54:31 <Amita> jonatoni++ 13:54:32 <x3mboy> This is my first diversity meeting, I want to help you guys, It's really inspiring the work you do/wanna do 13:54:40 <jonatoni_> Thanks Amita :) 13:54:44 <Amita> x3mboy, thank you so much :) 13:54:45 <x3mboy> I will be gald if I can help 13:55:01 <Amita> jonatoni, but you make me jealous as I can't do that :( lol 13:55:03 <Rhea> x3mboy: he's still away til Sunday 13:55:14 <Amita> .thank x3mboy 13:55:16 <zodbot> Amita thinks x3mboy is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to x3mboy++ also) 13:55:17 <Rhea> (he shows up for a moment here or there) 13:55:26 <Amita> Rhea, :) 13:55:49 <x3mboy> Amita++ 13:55:49 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for amsharma changed to 11 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:55:49 <fm-diversity> irc.karma -- x3mboy gave amsharma(11) a karma cookie in #fedora-diversity. "Amita++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/amsharma 13:56:07 <Rhea> I have a thing actually 13:56:16 <Amita> yeah please go ahead 13:56:26 <bee2502> .thank x3mboy 13:56:26 <zodbot> bee2502 thinks x3mboy is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to x3mboy++ also) 13:56:32 <bee2502> x3mboy++ 13:56:32 <zodbot> bee2502: Karma for x3mboy changed to 8 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:56:32 <fm-diversity> irc.karma -- bee2502 gave x3mboy(9) a karma cookie in #fedora-diversity. "x3mboy++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/x3mboy 13:57:00 <Amita> Rhea, ? 13:57:09 <bee2502> x3mboy If you have links to other diversity, community surveys and how they conducted it, info is always welcome. 13:57:17 <Rhea> Sooo the Diversity wiki page is outdated, there is invalid Meetings section. 13:57:20 <x3mboy> bee2502++ 13:57:20 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for bee2502 changed to 16 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:57:20 <fm-diversity> irc.karma -- x3mboy gave bee2502(30) a karma cookie in #fedora-diversity. "bee2502++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/bee2502 13:57:34 <bee2502> probably send them to ML x3mboy 13:57:50 <x3mboy> bee2502, I will ask, I think LibreOffice Latam and Ubuntu-ve have some 13:58:00 <Rhea> And the "Join" still says "We are working on the joining process" - not sure if that's'somewhat sorted yet 13:58:16 <Amita> Rhea, I will take a look this weekend 13:58:26 <Amita> Rhea, that ticket is still open 13:58:42 <bee2502> x3mboy that's great ! 13:58:45 * Rhea is about to comment on FAD ticket with fligth info.. 13:58:52 <Amita> thanks Rhea for bringing that up 13:59:19 <Amita> Rhea, please take a look at FAD page , you will know who all are flying and from where 13:59:50 <bee2502> Rhea++ 13:59:50 <zodbot> bee2502: Karma for rhea changed to 15 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:59:50 <fm-diversity> irc.karma -- bee2502 gave rhea(15) a karma cookie in #fedora-diversity. "Rhea++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/rhea 13:59:51 <Amita> Rhea, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Diversity_2017 13:59:57 <Amita> .thank Rhea 13:59:57 <zodbot> Amita thinks Rhea is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to Rhea++ also) 14:00:01 <Amita> Rhea++ 14:00:12 <bee2502> we also have marinaz joining us, right ? 14:00:21 <Amita> bee2502, hopefully 14:00:33 <jonatoni_> ! 14:00:34 <bee2502> Also, will FAD be on Monday and Tuesday after DevConf ? 14:00:51 <Amita> jonatoni, please say it 14:01:10 <Amita> bee2502, We will discuss/work all the time I guess 14:01:15 <jonatoni_> We need to be a bit strict with our meetings, and use the protocol same as we do at our Ambassador meetings 14:01:16 <tatica> sorry, had to puke :( 14:01:24 <Amita> but officialy it is bfore devconf 14:01:32 <Amita> tatica, oh.. take care :) 14:01:42 <tatica> meh, it's to be expected :D 14:01:51 <Amita> tatica, bless you 14:02:06 * Rhea waves at jflory7 14:02:14 <Amita> jonatoni_, like .. ? 14:02:24 <x3mboy> tatica, ? rlly? 14:02:34 <tatica> x3mboy, baby on the way :D (finally) 14:02:50 <x3mboy> tatica, Hell yeah!!! So happy for you guys!!! 14:02:54 <tatica> xD 14:02:58 <Amita> :) 14:03:02 <x3mboy> Sorry for this in meeting, I couldn't suppress my emotion 14:03:09 <tatica> x3mboy++ 14:03:09 <zodbot> tatica: Karma for x3mboy changed to 9 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:03:09 <fm-diversity> irc.karma -- tatica gave x3mboy(10) a karma cookie in #fedora-diversity. "x3mboy++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/x3mboy 14:03:33 <jonatoni_> For example to use ! when we need to talk, and when we are finished eof. So we can respect each other and the conversation will not be messy 14:03:37 <Amita> time to close it and we can continue discussion 14:03:45 <bee2502> ! 14:04:01 <Amita> jonatoni, Sure :) 14:04:05 <tatica> jonatoni_, that's usually the protocol with meetings with more people, for meetings with less than 10 we usually don't do it tha way 14:04:06 <Amita> bee2502, yes please 14:04:15 <tatica> but, if you feel more comfortable that way, sure 14:04:16 <tatica> eof :( 14:04:27 <Amita> I don't know why, but I never felt it messy 14:04:49 <bee2502> Amita I want to know the exact official dates for FAD to look for tickets 14:04:56 <jonatoni_> Sorry guys but sometimes i don't know who is talking with whom :( 14:05:15 <Amita> bee2502, 26-30 14:05:23 <Amita> and you gonna fly with me :) 14:05:30 <Amita> jonatoni_, point taken 14:05:36 <Amita> I am ending meeting , sorry 14:05:44 <Amita> at the count of 3 :) 14:05:46 <bee2502> Amita :) 14:05:50 <Amita> 1 14:05:51 <bee2502> .thank AMita 14:05:51 <zodbot> bee2502 thinks AMita is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to AMita++ also) 14:05:54 <Amita> 2 14:05:58 <Amita> 3 14:06:01 <jonatoni_> .thank amita 14:06:01 <zodbot> jonatoni_ thinks amita is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to amita++ also) 14:06:08 <bee2502> amita++ 14:06:08 <zodbot> bee2502: Karma for amita changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:06:08 <fm-diversity> irc.karma -- bee2502 gave amita(3) a karma cookie in #fedora-diversity. "amita++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/amita 14:06:15 <Amita> #endmeeting