13:01:00 <Amita> #startmeeting Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10
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13:01:15 <Amita> #meetingname diversity
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13:01:53 <Amita> #topic Roll Call
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13:02:05 <Amita> .hello amsharma
13:02:06 <zodbot> Amita: amsharma 'Amita Sharma' <amsharma@redhat.com>
13:02:08 <jonatoni_> .fas jonatoni
13:02:09 <zodbot> jonatoni_: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
13:02:17 <Amita> hey jonatoni
13:02:32 <jonatoni_> Hey Amita :)
13:02:59 <Amita> #chair jonatoni bee2502 Rhea jflory7
13:02:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea bee2502 jflory7 jonatoni
13:03:12 <x3mboy> o/
13:03:16 <x3mboy> .hello x3mboy
13:03:17 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
13:03:26 <Amita> #chair x3mboy
13:03:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea bee2502 jflory7 jonatoni x3mboy
13:03:32 <Amita> hey x3mboy
13:03:33 * Rhea waves
13:03:38 <Amita> #topic Announcements and news
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13:03:45 <Amita> hey Rhea , how are you
13:03:55 <Rhea> .hello rhea
13:03:58 <zodbot> Rhea: rhea 'Radka Janek' <radka.janek@redhat.com>
13:04:01 <Rhea> I'm fiiiine (but busy)
13:04:03 <Amita> #info ==== "Diversity FAD is approved" =======
13:04:03 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "==== "Diversity FAD is approved" ======="
13:04:05 <Rhea> :D
13:04:14 <Amita> Rhea, we all are so :D
13:04:20 <Rhea> Yeah...
13:04:24 <Amita> #link https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/73
13:04:24 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/73"
13:04:46 <Amita> #info ==== Fedora 25 Linux to Offer Better Dual-GPU Integration in the GNOME 3.22 Desktop ===
13:04:46 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "==== Fedora 25 Linux to Offer Better Dual-GPU Integration in the GNOME 3.22 Desktop ==="
13:04:51 <Amita> #link http://news.softpedia.com/news/fedora-25-linux-to-offer-better-dual-gpu-integration-in-the-gnome-3-22-desktop-509680.shtml
13:04:52 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "http://news.softpedia.com/news/fedora-25-linux-to-offer-better-dual-gpu-integration-in-the-gnome-3-22-desktop-509680.shtml"
13:05:04 <Amita> #info ==== "code of conduct trac ticket" ====
13:05:04 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "==== "code of conduct trac ticket" ===="
13:05:10 <Amita> #link https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40
13:05:10 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40"
13:05:20 <Amita> something to keep track of ^^
13:05:45 <Amita> #info === Flock Stories 2016, Episode 1: Redon Skikuli ===
13:05:46 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "=== Flock Stories 2016, Episode 1: Redon Skikuli ==="
13:05:55 <Amita> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-redon-skikuli/
13:05:55 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-redon-skikuli/"
13:06:13 <Amita> #info === Flock Stories 2016, Episode 2: Jonathan Dieter ===
13:06:14 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- amsharma raised a point of information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "=== Flock Stories 2016, Episode 2: Jonathan Dieter ==="
13:06:32 <Amita> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-jonathan-dieter/
13:06:33 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-jonathan-dieter/"
13:06:51 <Amita> okay, any questions about anything here ^^
13:06:58 <Amita> jonatoni, great post btw
13:07:01 <Amita> jonatoni++
13:07:23 <Amita> pass my words to Redon too :)
13:07:37 <jonatoni_> Sure, thanks Amita :)
13:07:42 <Amita> #topic Action items from last meeting
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13:07:59 <Amita> as far as I remember, it was mostly for the FAD
13:08:05 <Amita> #chair tatica
13:08:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea bee2502 jflory7 jonatoni tatica x3mboy
13:08:09 <Amita> hey tatica
13:08:20 <Amita> now that it is approved
13:08:24 <tatica> moin!
13:08:30 <Amita> #link https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/73
13:08:31 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/73"
13:08:49 <Amita> we need to go further on planning phase now
13:09:36 <Amita> Rhea and jonatoni would you like to take hotel investigation ( a bit deeper) as we already done this during FAD page writing
13:09:42 <Rhea> So about this, as I already mentioned I live in Brno so I can deal with some stuff if necessary, can also pick y'all up at the airport/hotel, etc... (depends on your flights heh... you could look into a flight to london -> brno, otherwise you will spend ours in a train or bus to get here from prague or vienna)
13:09:59 * Rhea waves at tatica
13:10:10 <tatica> have you think on renting an apartment instead hotels?
13:10:25 <tatica> we used that option twice when we went to LGM and was way cheaper and comfortable
13:10:35 <Amita> Rhea, thank you very much, but timings of arrival for everyone will be different
13:10:39 <tatica> we had a kitchen, so we not only gather at the venue, but gather as a family to cook dinner and breakfast
13:10:42 <Rhea> Amita: i can, not much to investigate tho, the city is relatively small and i can drive you around so no biggie no matter where it is..
13:11:01 <Amita> Rhea++
13:11:18 <jonatoni_> Yeah Amita sure
13:11:23 <Amita> thanks tatica , if you can share information on that (if it was in Brno) would be great
13:11:27 <Amita> tatica++
13:11:32 <Rhea> As far as US peeps go, i recommend going to London and from there to Brno, there are two flights iirc every day
13:11:40 <Amita> jonatoni, Rhea keep option of apartment open
13:11:45 <tatica> it was at vienna and at madrid, but I guess there wouldn't be much difference
13:12:02 <tatica> I will do a quick search to get some references and we can compare
13:12:09 <tatica> could you please tell me the dates again?
13:12:10 <Rhea> I don't think that apartment are much of an option around here, at least i never noticed...
13:12:11 <Amita> great
13:12:14 <Amita> thank you all
13:12:39 <Amita> #action tatica Rhea jonatoni to go deeper in search of accommodation for FAD
13:12:40 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "tatica Rhea jonatoni to go deeper in search of accommodation for FAD"
13:13:02 <x3mboy> I think it should be at January 27-29
13:13:34 <Amita> before devconf
13:13:50 <tatica> where is the venue? to locate places close enough
13:14:04 <x3mboy> Because bex votede +1 only if is before the end of february, so 2nd date in ticket it's not valid
13:14:04 <Amita> tatica, for devconf?
13:14:12 <tatica> yup
13:14:23 <Rhea> Bozetechova street, Brno
13:14:25 <tatica> and how many people from our team will go? (6/7?)
13:14:28 <jonatoni_> The hotel that I have proposed is pretty close the venue
13:14:38 <Rhea> (dont remember exact numbers... university of technology)
13:15:00 <Amita> Faculty of Information Technology (VUT FIT) Božetěchova 2 - Brno
13:15:07 <tatica> Rhea, np, that's good :D
13:15:15 <bee2502> .hello bee2502
13:15:16 <zodbot> bee2502: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <bhagyashree.iitg@gmail.com>
13:15:21 <Amita> hey bee2502
13:15:30 <Amita> tatica, 4 people
13:15:52 <Amita> Rhea and Marina will not stay with us
13:15:56 <bee2502> o/ Amita tatica jonatoni_ Rhea
13:16:13 <tatica> jonatoni_, do you have a price per night? and how many people per room?
13:16:26 <Amita> tatica, what are the general procedure of ticket bookings for FAD
13:16:43 <Amita> I need to write mail to Bex for that, but I am sure you must have an idea
13:17:09 <bee2502> jonatoni_ stayed in an apartment for a conference, I am not sure if it is Brno
13:17:17 <Rhea> hai bee
13:17:27 <tatica> so, look at this for example. apartment for 6 at 41$ per night https://www.airbnb.co.ve/rooms/15778660?checkin=26%2F01%2F2017&checkout=30%2F01%2F2017&guests=4
13:17:43 <jonatoni_> tatica yep, if you check the wiki I've included the prices, sorry I'm on my phine now
13:17:51 <jonatoni_> phone*
13:17:51 <tatica> jonatoni_, np, will check asap!
13:18:22 <Amita> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Diversity_2017
13:18:22 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Diversity_2017"
13:18:38 <jonatoni_> bee2502: that apartment it wasn't available any more, unfortunately
13:18:50 <Amita> hotel Vista, jonatoni ?
13:19:11 <tatica> yeah, Vista and London Hotels
13:19:15 <Amita> yeah, so we need to book rooms/apart asap
13:19:31 <Amita> otherwise we won't get, devconf and qecamp will be there
13:19:31 <jonatoni_> Nope, the apartment that bee2502 mention was something else
13:19:35 <tatica> however, with an airbnb option lodging for everyone could be less than 200$
13:19:47 <jonatoni_> But even at Vista we can book an apartment
13:20:23 <tatica> it's ok, just droping some options :)
13:21:07 <jonatoni_> Btw we need to ask Bex if he can book our flights and accommodation, or someone else that has a community credit card
13:21:27 <jonatoni_> As we will have lots of expenses
13:21:56 <Amita> #action Amita to write mail to Bex for expense options for FAD
13:21:56 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "Amita to write mail to Bex for expense options for FAD"
13:22:17 <Amita> anything else on FAD?
13:22:35 <Rhea> How long will you stay?
13:23:14 <Amita> 26 - 30
13:23:17 <jonatoni_> About the place that we will use for our meetings I will talk with Jiri so he can find an available room for us
13:23:39 <Amita> that is great, we can involve more people from devconf
13:23:48 <Amita> plan is going in right direction
13:23:55 <Amita> we can do a a lightening talk too
13:24:01 <Amita> jonatoni++
13:24:10 <Rhea> Count with 15$/day for lunch+dinner
13:24:20 <Amita> .thank jonatoni_
13:24:20 <zodbot> Amita thinks jonatoni_ is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to jonatoni_++ also)
13:24:32 <Rhea> That's more-less accurate price, but of course you can go higher or less :p
13:24:32 <jonatoni_> Btw Jiri said that even after DevConf they have an available room for us
13:24:56 <Amita> Rhea, please feel free to put your thoughts and suggestions in mail
13:25:05 <Amita> that is great jonatoni_
13:25:11 <Amita> .thank Rhea
13:25:11 <zodbot> Amita thinks Rhea is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to Rhea++ also)
13:25:15 <jonatoni_> So we can consider to do it even after devconf
13:26:10 <Amita> jonatoni_, okay
13:26:28 <Amita> makes sense
13:26:49 <Amita> let's book before 30th Nov
13:26:57 <jonatoni_> Yep
13:27:01 <Amita> tickets and room/apart. both
13:27:31 <Amita> #agreed We will book tickets and accommodation before Nov 30, 2016 for FAD
13:27:31 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.agreed -- amsharma noted agreement in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "We will book tickets and accommodation before Nov 30, 2016 for FAD"
13:27:49 <Amita> #topic https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/15
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13:28:16 <Amita> this is for private mailing list
13:28:20 <Amita> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5514
13:28:21 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5514"
13:28:55 <Amita> me and jflory7 did some testing along with jonatoni Rhea
13:29:08 <Amita> but we did not get as expected results for mailing list
13:29:16 <Amita> this is still pending on infra team
13:29:40 <Amita> #action Amita to comment again on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5514
13:29:41 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "Amita to comment again on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5514"
13:30:16 <Amita> #topic https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/14
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13:30:42 <Amita> this is about - Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team
13:30:57 <Amita> last comment from Justin, which says this needs to be informed to council
13:31:04 <Amita> tatica, you may want to do that
13:31:16 <tatica> of course
13:31:24 <Amita> thanks tatica
13:31:28 <Amita> tatica++
13:31:58 <Amita> #action tatica will inform council about Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team
13:31:59 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "tatica will inform council about Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team"
13:32:04 <Amita> .thank tatica
13:32:04 <zodbot> Amita thinks tatica is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to tatica++ also)
13:32:16 <tatica> Amita++
13:32:17 <zodbot> tatica: Karma for amsharma changed to 10 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:32:17 <fm-diversity> irc.karma -- tatica gave amsharma(10) a karma cookie in #fedora-diversity.  "Amita++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/amsharma
13:32:20 <Amita> #topic survey
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13:32:33 <Amita> this is what we want to cover during FAD mostly
13:32:48 <Amita> do we want to do some prior planning work around it before FAD?
13:32:56 <Amita> bee2502, survey queen :)
13:33:37 <Amita> #link Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team
13:33:38 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "Merge the data of Community_working_group with diversity team"
13:33:42 <Amita> #undo
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13:33:54 <Amita> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity/Survey
13:33:54 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity/Survey"
13:34:11 <Amita> bee2502, you there ?
13:34:18 <Amita> jonatoni, tatica thoughts?
13:35:15 <jonatoni_> Afaik we decided to work on this during FAD
13:35:16 <x3mboy> Hi fellas, sorry I just had an evacuation test in my office
13:35:22 <Amita> okay, so we can discuss on it in next meeting and ofcourse this will take the major priority during FAD
13:35:27 <bee2502> yes Amira
13:35:32 <bee2502> *Amita
13:35:36 <tatica> I think a good goal would be to have a demo by then and try it
13:35:37 <Amita> cool
13:35:49 * Amita nods
13:36:12 <tatica> It's about 3 months now
13:36:14 <jonatoni_> Agree with tatica
13:36:21 <bee2502> I have some questions already which I added to wiki, but we need to discuss how to conduct it.
13:36:39 <Amita> bee2502, drop a mail?
13:36:41 <x3mboy> !
13:36:42 <tatica> is there any progress with infra? for the survey?
13:36:44 <Amita> or you want to do that now
13:36:53 <Amita> please go ahead x3mboy
13:36:58 <Amita> tatica, nope
13:37:20 <bee2502> mail sounds better as we could discuss each point. But I like having a demo by FAD. tatica++
13:37:21 <tatica> Amita, then we should focus on that, we can expand the questions on the way
13:37:40 <Amita> tatica, sure
13:37:55 <x3mboy> I think some point in the survey need clarification (for the people who is gonna take the survey), like What is the difference between "chronological Age" and "Biological Age"
13:38:09 <Amita> I am not aware if jflory7 is already have something there with infra
13:38:14 <Rhea> (the same thing i asked a month ago haha)
13:38:34 <jonatoni_> bee2502: better write on mailing list first so we can write there some inputs about it
13:38:36 <tatica> yeah, I don't know either what is that
13:38:46 <tatica> I think the questionaire is too long right now
13:38:49 <Amita> let's keep it simple please :)
13:38:57 <x3mboy> Difference between race, ethnicity and Caste
13:38:58 <Rhea> And I don't'even see the point of asking for biological age.
13:39:04 <tatica> we should simplify it a bit so people don't get bored answering it
13:39:10 <Amita> we want people to fill it, don't want to scare them as if it is a long exam
13:39:25 <Rhea> BOO!
13:39:28 <x3mboy> tatica +1
13:39:30 <Rhea> Oh not that kind of scaring.. sorry
13:39:37 <tatica> hahahaha
13:39:41 <bee2502> we should decide key points we want to gather info about from survey.
13:39:44 <tatica> anyway, we could do this
13:39:58 <bee2502> Is it just for demographic/diversity details for community.
13:40:15 <tatica> we could focus on infra for a month and a half, and if the survey can go up for a testing instance, then give the remaining month and a half to polish the survey
13:40:16 <bee2502> or do we also want to know their experiences with team and other community members
13:40:19 <tatica> what do you think about it?
13:40:39 <Amita> bee2502, both
13:40:45 <Amita> tatica, I liked the idea, yes
13:40:54 <x3mboy> I can look for other comunity surveys, I know i have access at least to 2 other ones
13:41:12 <Amita> tatica, it will give us a user like feel
13:41:19 <Rhea> BTW the hotel Vista has only a few 2-bed rooms left (you're after those i guess?)
13:41:29 <Rhea> nudge nudge... make up your mind fast
13:41:37 <Amita> jonatoni, hurry up :) ^^
13:41:47 <Amita> ok, so..
13:41:47 <tatica> Amita, yeah, once we can fill the survey we will get an idea of what needs to be included/excluded/collapsed/etc
13:41:58 <jonatoni_> Yeah will talk with them now
13:42:03 <bee2502> x3mboy, I like the idea !
13:42:04 <Amita> tatica, +!
13:42:22 <bee2502> tatica, so we are putting all the questions on survey instance right now ?
13:42:36 <bee2502> we will also get an idea of how long it takes to fill the questions
13:42:52 <tatica> bee2502, yup, however, first we need a testing instance, it's far from finish to go public yet
13:42:59 <tatica> bee2502, yeah, exactly
13:43:08 <Amita> #agreed focus on infra for a month and a half, and if the survey can go up for a testing instance, then give the remaining month and a half to polish the survey
13:43:08 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.agreed -- amsharma noted agreement in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "focus on infra for a month and a half, and if the survey can go up for a testing instance, then give the remaining month and a half to polish the survey"
13:43:15 <Amita> we have an action item here
13:43:22 <Amita> if jflory7 has not yet started it
13:43:22 <tatica> bee2502, we could also group them by block, so people can decide to avoid a full block of questions
13:43:26 <Amita> talk to infra
13:44:33 <Amita> any volunteer ?
13:44:43 <bee2502> tatica, it will lead to people skipping longer questions
13:44:54 <bee2502> but we can keep some required questions in blocks
13:45:00 <bee2502> I like the blocks idea.
13:45:01 <tatica> bee2502, probably, but the idea is not to force anyone
13:45:25 <tatica> we might get only 2% of the community answering it, or 90%...
13:45:43 <tatica> but until we see it, we won't be able to make it enjoyable
13:45:50 <Amita> we need to publicize it well
13:46:10 <bee2502> Amita : we can use commblog, once it is ready
13:46:43 <Amita> and few face 2 face talk at conferences (lightening) or at the end of our own talks
13:46:59 <Amita> we can use social media
13:47:04 <Amita> many ways actualy
13:47:44 <Amita> so we have two options here
13:47:59 <bee2502> tatica, I see - but I meant for questions like gender etc, we can keep an option 'I dont want to say' and then make it a required question. This doesnt force them to answer and also gives us some data to understand.
13:48:06 <Amita> 1. go step by step, take action item to talk to infra for testing instnace of survey
13:48:27 <Amita> 2. Discuss it in full detail here and end up having a survey tonight :P
13:49:25 <Amita> bee2502, what to write a mail with everything you have on list?
13:49:48 <Amita> sorry for being bad gal here
13:49:57 <Amita> only 10 mins left
13:50:04 <bee2502> Amita, maybe it could be helpful if we know how the FLOSS survey was conducted.
13:50:15 <bee2502> Amita, yes sure, will send by tonight.
13:50:21 <Amita> thanks bee2502
13:50:23 <bee2502> I understand.
13:50:25 <Amita> .thank bee2502
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13:50:42 <Amita> #action bee2502 will write a mail on diversity list for survey
13:50:42 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- amsharma noted an action in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "bee2502 will write a mail on diversity list for survey"
13:51:08 <Amita> we can keep rest of the tickets for next meeting and move to open floor now
13:51:14 <Amita> #topic openfloor
13:51:14 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of amsharma's "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting changed to "openfloor" in #fedora-diversity
13:51:47 <Amita> https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40#comment:14 is interesting
13:51:47 <fm-diversity> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- amsharma linked to more information in the "Fedora Diversity Team - 2016 Nov 10" meeting in #fedora-diversity: "https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40#comment:14 is interesting" https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/40#comment:14
13:51:56 <Rhea> Guys feel free to ping me anytime by the way, i'm usually around... (e.g. if you have a question about brno,...)
13:52:30 <Amita> thank you so much Rhea
13:52:56 <Amita> tatica, jonatoni bee2502 anything or everything you wanna say?
13:53:03 <Amita> jflory7, where are you
13:53:08 <tatica> yeah... there is a lot to work on!
13:53:26 * Amita nods
13:53:30 <jonatoni_> Btw lately I've been to different conferences
13:53:36 <x3mboy> jflory7, was on vacatin at the beginning of the week, I'm not sure if he is around now
13:53:40 <jonatoni_> The last one was in Sofia
13:53:54 <Amita> jonatoni, I know, I see that, I am so proud of you lady
13:53:57 <jonatoni_> Where i had the opportunity to talk also about our team
13:54:26 <Amita> x3mboy, yeah.. just missing him :)
13:54:31 <Amita> jonatoni++
13:54:32 <x3mboy> This is my first diversity meeting, I want to help you guys, It's really inspiring the work you do/wanna do
13:54:40 <jonatoni_> Thanks Amita :)
13:54:44 <Amita> x3mboy, thank you so much :)
13:54:45 <x3mboy> I will be gald if I can help
13:55:01 <Amita> jonatoni, but you make me jealous as I can't do that :( lol
13:55:03 <Rhea> x3mboy: he's still away til Sunday
13:55:14 <Amita> .thank x3mboy
13:55:16 <zodbot> Amita thinks x3mboy is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to x3mboy++ also)
13:55:17 <Rhea> (he shows up for a moment here or there)
13:55:26 <Amita> Rhea, :)
13:55:49 <x3mboy> Amita++
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13:56:07 <Rhea> I have a thing actually
13:56:16 <Amita> yeah please go ahead
13:56:26 <bee2502> .thank x3mboy
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13:56:32 <bee2502> x3mboy++
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13:57:00 <Amita> Rhea, ?
13:57:09 <bee2502> x3mboy If you have links to other diversity, community surveys and how they conducted it, info is always welcome.
13:57:17 <Rhea> Sooo the Diversity wiki page is outdated, there is invalid Meetings section.
13:57:20 <x3mboy> bee2502++
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13:57:34 <bee2502> probably send them to ML x3mboy
13:57:50 <x3mboy> bee2502, I will ask, I think LibreOffice Latam and Ubuntu-ve have some
13:58:00 <Rhea> And the "Join" still says "We are working on the joining process" - not sure if that's'somewhat sorted yet
13:58:16 <Amita> Rhea, I will take a look this weekend
13:58:26 <Amita> Rhea, that ticket is still open
13:58:42 <bee2502> x3mboy that's great !
13:58:45 * Rhea is about to comment on FAD ticket with fligth info..
13:58:52 <Amita> thanks Rhea for bringing that up
13:59:19 <Amita> Rhea, please take a look at FAD page , you will know who all are flying and from where
13:59:50 <bee2502> Rhea++
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13:59:51 <Amita> Rhea, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Diversity_2017
13:59:57 <Amita> .thank Rhea
13:59:57 <zodbot> Amita thinks Rhea is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to Rhea++ also)
14:00:01 <Amita> Rhea++
14:00:12 <bee2502> we also have marinaz joining us, right ?
14:00:21 <Amita> bee2502, hopefully
14:00:33 <jonatoni_> !
14:00:34 <bee2502> Also, will FAD be on Monday and Tuesday after DevConf ?
14:00:51 <Amita> jonatoni, please say it
14:01:10 <Amita> bee2502, We will discuss/work all the time I guess
14:01:15 <jonatoni_> We need to be a bit strict with our meetings, and use the protocol same as we do at our Ambassador meetings
14:01:16 <tatica> sorry, had to puke :(
14:01:24 <Amita> but officialy it is bfore devconf
14:01:32 <Amita> tatica, oh.. take care :)
14:01:42 <tatica> meh, it's to be expected :D
14:01:51 <Amita> tatica, bless you
14:02:06 * Rhea waves at jflory7
14:02:14 <Amita> jonatoni_, like .. ?
14:02:24 <x3mboy> tatica, ? rlly?
14:02:34 <tatica> x3mboy, baby on the way :D (finally)
14:02:50 <x3mboy> tatica, Hell yeah!!! So happy for you guys!!!
14:02:54 <tatica> xD
14:02:58 <Amita> :)
14:03:02 <x3mboy> Sorry for this in meeting, I couldn't suppress my emotion
14:03:09 <tatica> x3mboy++
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14:03:33 <jonatoni_> For example to use ! when we need to talk, and when we are finished eof. So we can respect each other and the conversation will not be messy
14:03:37 <Amita> time to close it and we can continue discussion
14:03:45 <bee2502> !
14:04:01 <Amita> jonatoni, Sure :)
14:04:05 <tatica> jonatoni_, that's usually the protocol with meetings with more people, for meetings with less than 10 we usually don't do it tha way
14:04:06 <Amita> bee2502, yes please
14:04:15 <tatica> but, if you feel more comfortable that way, sure
14:04:16 <tatica> eof :(
14:04:27 <Amita> I don't know why, but I never felt it messy
14:04:49 <bee2502> Amita I want to know the exact official dates for FAD to look for tickets
14:04:56 <jonatoni_> Sorry guys but sometimes i don't know who is talking with whom :(
14:05:15 <Amita> bee2502, 26-30
14:05:23 <Amita> and you gonna fly with me :)
14:05:30 <Amita> jonatoni_, point taken
14:05:36 <Amita> I am ending meeting , sorry
14:05:44 <Amita> at the count of 3 :)
14:05:46 <bee2502> Amita :)
14:05:50 <Amita> 1
14:05:51 <bee2502> .thank AMita
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14:05:54 <Amita> 2
14:05:58 <Amita> 3
14:06:01 <jonatoni_> .thank amita
14:06:01 <zodbot> jonatoni_ thinks amita is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to amita++ also)
14:06:08 <bee2502> amita++
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14:06:15 <Amita> #endmeeting