13:58:43 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Fedora Diversity & Inclusion Team (2020-10-20)
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13:58:43 <riecatnor> #meetingname diversity
13:58:43 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity'
13:58:43 <riecatnor> #nick di-team
13:58:43 <riecatnor> #chair jwf riecatnor
13:58:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf riecatnor
13:59:00 <jwf> Good morning!
13:59:03 <riecatnor> #topic Roll call / introductions
13:59:06 <riecatnor> whose here today :)
13:59:12 <jwf> .hello jflory7
13:59:13 <zodbot> jwf: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <foss@jwf.io>
13:59:17 <jwf> .members diversity-team
13:59:18 <zodbot> jwf: Members of diversity-team: @amsharma @bee2502 bt0dotninja chhavi @jflory7 @jonatoni lilyx +marinaz +meskarune nikhilkathole orionstar25 pyadav ramyaparimi recursedd @riecatnor siddharthvipul1 @tatica x3mboy
13:59:18 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor
13:59:20 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'None' <mnordin@redhat.com>
13:59:37 <x3mboy> .hello2
13:59:38 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
13:59:39 <riecatnor> how do I change that 'none' - bc I tried to change in FAS and it didn't work
13:59:55 <riecatnor> or maybe I had some user error?
13:59:58 <riecatnor> lol
14:00:09 <jwf> riecatnor: Looks like your FAS account is set to private
14:00:29 <jwf> So it censors data like your name and other info from other apps in the Fedora Infra world
14:00:41 <riecatnor> interesting. Did not know that was a thing
14:00:43 <riecatnor> TIL
14:01:04 <jwf> It is one of those things buried deep in FAS :P And I have seen more people be confused about what it meant than actually use it
14:01:12 <jwf> Anyways!
14:01:17 * jwf waves to x3mboy
14:01:23 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor
14:01:24 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
14:01:25 <jwf> Buenos días amigo :)
14:01:31 <jwf> Aha, there it goes :D
14:01:46 <riecatnor> #topic Announcements
14:01:55 <riecatnor> #info Fedora 33 released!
14:02:04 <jwf> Woot!
14:02:08 <riecatnor> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-33/
14:02:27 <riecatnor> #info Fedora 33 Release Party is next week Friday & Saturday Nov 6th & 7th
14:02:35 <riecatnor> #link https://hopin.to/events/fedora-33-release-party
14:02:49 <riecatnor> any other announcements? :)
14:02:55 <riecatnor> #chair x3mboy
14:02:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf riecatnor x3mboy
14:02:57 <jwf> #info @bee2502 and jwf are giving a talk in two weeks at SeaGL virtual conference (Nov. 13-14) about the history of the Fedora D&I Team and lessons learned from the past five years.
14:03:05 <jwf> #link https://seagl.org/
14:03:26 <jwf> That's all from me!
14:03:45 <riecatnor> #topic Action items from last meeting
14:04:26 <riecatnor> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/sresults/?group_id=diversity&type=team
14:04:37 <riecatnor> As suspected... I assigned none LOL
14:05:00 <jwf> :)
14:05:15 <jwf> We were on FWD tunnel vision mode last meeting
14:05:29 <jwf> So, makes sense!
14:05:38 <riecatnor> #link https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/diversity/diversity.2020-09-24-14.00.html
14:05:55 <riecatnor> this was the previous meeting minutes, I am gonna read through that real quick
14:06:49 <jwf> Looks like we were talking about FWD and some specific changes to the docs / resource pack
14:07:06 <riecatnor> mm, am I reading this right, all the past items were completed except this:
14:07:07 <riecatnor> === [INCOMPLETE] "jwf: Ping Freenode staff about webchat clients getting auto-voice in a channel"
14:07:38 <jwf> Yeah I saw that… I need to re-test that if it is an issue still
14:08:09 <riecatnor> #action jwf to re-test freenode wrt webchat clients getting auto-voice in channel
14:08:28 <riecatnor> #topic Tickets
14:08:57 <riecatnor> jwf, how do you choose to review tickets?
14:09:03 <riecatnor> is it the next meeting filter?
14:09:15 <jwf> riecatnor: Yes! Although, it may be a little out of data
14:09:17 <jwf> *date
14:09:27 <jwf> But I remember updating a couple of tickets
14:09:31 <riecatnor> mm, gotcha. usually how I do it is I sort by modified date
14:09:40 <riecatnor> so that anything that had activity gets looked at minimally
14:09:48 <jwf> Not a bad idea
14:09:50 <riecatnor> (since the last meeting)
14:10:06 <riecatnor> and then if we have more time, I look at additional things or we move to open floor and someone can bring up a ticket
14:10:16 <riecatnor> this is how I do mindshare
14:10:26 <riecatnor> let's try it for today and see how it goes :)
14:10:30 <jwf> Works form e!
14:10:33 <jwf> * for me
14:10:38 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/175
14:11:03 <riecatnor> I need to update this quick
14:11:19 <fm-diversity> pagure.issue.comment.added -- riecatnor commented on ticket fedora-diversity#175: "FWD 2020: Video recordings and distribution" https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/175#comment-698800
14:11:24 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/302
14:12:12 <jwf> My biggest question here is, where do we begin? Do we need to find an editor, or do we have one we can use?
14:12:21 <riecatnor> I have a folder with the files now
14:12:30 <riecatnor> I spoke with tatica, she agreed to work on editing
14:12:40 <jwf> OK, awesome! tatica++
14:12:40 <zodbot> jwf: Karma for tatica changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:12:50 <riecatnor> I can also ask asamalik
14:12:56 <riecatnor> and last but certainly not least, bcotton
14:13:14 <riecatnor> I am going to share the folder with tatica, and also you jwf?
14:13:20 <riecatnor> what email to share with?
14:14:25 <jwf> Where are the files hosted?
14:14:26 <jwf> Dropbox?
14:14:49 <riecatnor> its in google drive
14:14:57 <jwf> OK. For Google Drive, jflory7@gmail.com works best for me
14:15:39 <jwf> #info Videos are being downloaded from Hopin and moved into a Google Drive folder.
14:15:53 <jwf> #action riecatnor Share Google Drive folder with FWD videos to jwf and tatica
14:16:08 <tg-fed-di> <r​parimi> .hello ramyaparimi
14:16:20 <riecatnor> done!
14:16:26 <riecatnor> .hello ramyaparimi
14:16:28 <zodbot> riecatnor: ramyaparimi 'Ramya Parimi' <rlp.parimi@gmail.com>
14:16:35 <riecatnor> :) doesn't work from tg I don't think
14:16:36 * jwf waves to @rparimi
14:16:46 <jwf> #chair rparimi
14:16:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf riecatnor rparimi x3mboy
14:18:11 <riecatnor> ok, i shared, tatica is going to work on the first round of edits. to get the sessions cut down with title slides
14:18:34 <riecatnor> once I get those back I can work on getting them up on youtube
14:18:41 <riecatnor> #action tatica to work on first round of edits
14:18:59 <riecatnor> #action riecatnor to upload fwd videos to youtube once complete
14:19:09 <jwf> #nick tatica
14:19:12 <jwf> Sounds like a plan
14:19:40 <riecatnor> one thing, what is the best way to generate some action on the marketing ticket
14:19:53 <riecatnor> let me send that to sfinn actually
14:20:40 <jwf> riecatnor: Are you looking for ideas/brainstorming or action on the marketing ticket?
14:20:55 <riecatnor> action
14:21:19 <jwf> Got it. The ticket seems to be asking for feedback on the ideas. The actions for the community are not clear to me from reading the ticket
14:21:31 <riecatnor> Mm, ok, we need a marketing plan
14:21:32 <jwf> Maybe you could explain some of the actions you are thinking of here in the meeting?
14:23:06 <riecatnor> mm, so I guess we need to build some strong concepts to guide the creation of the content
14:23:25 <riecatnor> we also need a plan for rolling that out to the specific audiences they pertain to
14:24:28 <riecatnor> does that help?
14:24:51 <riecatnor> I can edit the ticket
14:24:52 * jwf nods
14:25:09 <jwf> I think you have some strong concepts already in the ticket
14:25:30 <jwf> I think it might help to identify the kinds of skills needed for folks to help out with this work, and then we can find ways to involve others in supporting
14:26:02 <jwf> The video editing and upload parts are probably taken care of, but it would be cool to make YouTube thumbnails for each video like we had for the Hopin session covers
14:26:07 <jwf> Same content, different aspect ratio
14:26:14 <jwf> That would be a new Design ticket I assume
14:26:34 <jwf> Could be a good easyfix task
14:27:01 <jwf> For outreach, we could also get a CommBlog draft or two going. For polls, and then eventually the videos once the time is right
14:27:04 <riecatnor> there is also things like pulling out the text from chat to quote etc
14:27:20 <riecatnor> I guess I was hoping the marketing team would come up with that "what needs to be done" to do what they do
14:27:42 <riecatnor> yes, that is what I want laid out in the marketing plan :D
14:27:44 <jwf> I think the Marketing Team is very low capacity :( At least, from my experience when I was more involved there. x3mboy might be able to comment.
14:27:54 <riecatnor> I am trying to recruit sfinn
14:28:19 <jwf> That would be cool :)
14:28:47 <jwf> riecatnor: If we could download the text logs from Hopin, we could probably share the logs to an interested person to help find quotes based around a particular set of ideas or themes
14:28:51 <x3mboy> It's the same
14:29:11 <riecatnor> I think what needs to happen there is get a document going and start filling things in :)
14:29:18 <x3mboy> We have only 3 members, and no meetings or actions, it's more like me trying to promote stuff
14:29:22 <riecatnor> #action riecatnor to start outline for marketing plan
14:29:26 <jwf> #idea YouTube thumbnails based on Hopin session profiles
14:29:32 <riecatnor> #undo
14:29:32 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: IDEA by jwf at 14:29:26 : YouTube thumbnails based on Hopin session profiles
14:29:35 <riecatnor> oopS!
14:29:37 <jwf> Oops!
14:29:41 <x3mboy> +1
14:29:41 <jwf> One more time :D
14:29:50 <x3mboy> LOL
14:29:57 <riecatnor> #action riecatnor to start outline for FWD content marketing plan
14:30:09 <riecatnor> just do you jwf :)
14:30:12 <jwf> #idea YouTube thumbnails based on Hopin session profiles
14:30:27 <jwf> #idea Hopin chat logs for finding quotes from text chat
14:30:50 <riecatnor> #action riecatnor to upload all FWD content to google drive folder
14:31:01 <jwf> riecatnor: If you start a hackmd or other pad on the marketing plan, please share it on the D&I mailing list for best visibility :)
14:31:10 <riecatnor> can do!
14:31:15 <jwf> That is probably the best way to get it on the team's radar for now
14:31:18 <jwf> :+1:
14:31:24 <lilyx> +1
14:31:28 <riecatnor> hi lilyx !
14:31:31 * jwf waves to lilyx
14:31:34 <riecatnor> #chair lilyx
14:31:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf lilyx riecatnor rparimi x3mboy
14:31:43 <lilyx> good morning :)
14:31:57 <x3mboy> +1
14:32:02 <rparimi> hello lilyx:
14:32:05 <jwf> Mornin'!
14:32:06 <rparimi> +1
14:32:41 <jwf> Any other FWD post-event topics to cover for today's meeting? I think starting a shared marketing plan doc will help to get some action going there
14:32:56 <riecatnor> rparimi, lilyx, any thoughts on content from fwd? or just fwd in general
14:33:14 <riecatnor> I have something jwf
14:33:18 * jwf nods
14:33:52 <riecatnor> giving rparimi and lilyx a chance first :)
14:34:29 <rparimi> I have nothing for now :)
14:34:42 <riecatnor> okey
14:34:57 <lilyx> nothing major but I'm really into the idea of doing content analysis to build up promotional material
14:35:33 <rparimi> The only thing I had in mind was, for more people to know about it and join for next time. But that is covered in the marketing strategy :)
14:36:25 <riecatnor> both really good ideas/points
14:36:35 <riecatnor> making word clouds could be fun
14:36:41 <riecatnor> #idea make work clouds for fwd chats
14:36:46 <riecatnor> word*
14:36:48 <riecatnor> lol
14:37:33 <jwf> Oh that would be cool :)
14:37:37 <riecatnor> I just want to check in on everyone after the last week after FWD. Specifically our mental health, safety, and well being. I was harassed bc of my work on FWD, and I want to ensure everyone else is free of that. If you were also targeted, please open a CoC ticket here: https://pagure.io/coc/issues it will be kept anonymous
14:37:38 <lilyx> totally
14:38:01 <jwf> riecatnor: <3
14:38:20 <riecatnor> it isn't an easy topic to bring up, tho I think it is important
14:38:28 <jwf> Big hugs. Harassment is not OK.
14:38:43 <lilyx> omg that is aweful, yeah super not ok
14:39:10 <rparimi> omg.... why???
14:39:14 <rparimi> @rie
14:39:16 <riecatnor> I think this individual was PMing other Fedorans with negative things, which is why I bring it p here
14:39:23 <rparimi> riecatnor: how are you doing now
14:39:26 <riecatnor> I am just concerned for the team
14:39:38 <riecatnor> I am taking steps to take care of myself :)
14:40:31 <riecatnor> I have some PTO coming up, super looking forward to that!
14:40:46 <rparimi> riecatnor: take care and know that we are here for you anytime :)
14:40:50 <jwf> ++
14:41:00 <lilyx> yes 100% ++
14:41:21 <riecatnor> thanks :) and same!
14:41:38 <riecatnor> everyone did an amazing job, super proud of the event and how it came out
14:42:00 <riecatnor> the content we make is going to be epic too!
14:42:30 <jwf> The only tragedy for me is that I was not able to fully participate on Day 1 and 2 :D Very excited for the content and videos.
14:42:31 <rparimi> yayy
14:42:48 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/169
14:43:11 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/pull-request/179
14:44:53 <jwf> Oh I see lilyx's comment there!
14:45:30 <lilyx> awesome, how is this survey to be distributed?
14:46:09 <jwf> lilyx: For the demographic survey, it is complicated…
14:46:15 <riecatnor> I think we can use limesurvey for this
14:46:34 <jwf> So, the docs there with the specific questions were drafted in Jan. 2017 at the D&I Team hackfest in the Czech Republic.
14:46:50 <riecatnor> things have changed around data privacy so these are more of a reference?
14:46:52 <jwf> Since then… the world has changed a lot :D Well, with things like data (e.g. GDPR) and also sensitivity towards what data we ask and collect
14:46:58 <riecatnor> +1
14:47:13 <jwf> For now, the issue was just about the docs, and to make sure that work we did in the past is still represented and visible for others to build off of
14:47:22 <jwf> The Council is looking at a cross-community survey, though
14:47:35 <x3mboy> Sorry, I'm intermittent, but I'm kind of busy
14:47:41 <jwf> I was watching that ticket at the Council, and I was hoping we might be able to slip a few questions in once the Council gets going on that
14:47:43 <riecatnor> this would be good to reference
14:47:50 <riecatnor> agreed jwf :)
14:47:52 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/327
14:48:18 <riecatnor> so for now, can we change the text at the top to reflect it is now a reference?
14:48:21 <jwf> But maybe, I should add an explicit note to the questions page…
14:48:25 <jwf> Jinx!
14:48:35 <riecatnor> want to action yourself lol
14:48:40 <jwf> Yes, let me write an action and I will follow-up post meeting
14:49:04 <jwf> #action jwf Follow up on feedback in PR #179, add note/disclaimer about historical reference / not an active work
14:49:20 <riecatnor> #topic open floor
14:49:21 <jwf> rparimi++ lilyx++ Thanks for taking a look and reviewing the PR!
14:49:21 <zodbot> jwf: Karma for ramyaparimi changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:49:24 <zodbot> jwf: Karma for lilyx changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:49:25 <jwf> Ohhhh!
14:49:29 <jwf> New cookies!
14:49:31 <jwf> They are here!
14:49:40 <rparimi> yayyy
14:49:41 <jwf> Let's see how long these all last :D
14:49:47 <riecatnor> lol not long
14:49:50 <riecatnor> jwf++
14:49:50 <zodbot> riecatnor: Karma for jflory7 changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:49:54 <riecatnor> first cookie
14:49:54 <lilyx> thats fun :)
14:50:02 <riecatnor> lilyx++
14:50:02 <zodbot> riecatnor: Karma for lilyx changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:50:05 <jwf> Get 'em while they're hot :D
14:50:24 <jwf> Other than a tray full of cookies, I got nothing for open floor
14:50:26 <riecatnor> so any thing specific for open floor?
14:50:43 <riecatnor> we didn't get through many tickets, so if there is some work that needs attention feel free to bring it :)
14:51:14 <riecatnor> I want to make sure everyone (who can make it) has signed up for the release party
14:51:18 <riecatnor> :D
14:51:37 <riecatnor> we went from 5 to 31 attendees since the meeting started
14:51:38 <riecatnor> https://hopin.to/events/fedora-33-release-party
14:51:38 <rparimi> yes!!! I will sign up right now right now lol
14:51:42 <jwf> Only other update from me is that the work on the D&I docs has been awesome lately :) I really appreciate the enthusiasm and interest from all the folks who have been helping with that. It is nice to see all of our notes and ideas become more organized and end up there.
14:51:56 <riecatnor> docs++
14:51:58 <jwf> riecatnor: I also just dropped a calendar invite to 30+ folks with that too :)
14:52:11 <riecatnor> awesome
14:52:29 <lilyx> rad
14:52:31 <riecatnor> next thing is... I have organize some really cool events for us
14:52:32 <riecatnor> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F33_Virtual_Release_Party_Event_Signup
14:52:51 <riecatnor> there is a halloween party, and something called War of the Wizards (think mini dnd)
14:53:01 <jwf> :D
14:53:15 <riecatnor> def sign up! it is a lot of fun
14:53:26 <riecatnor> I did the war of the wizards with my red hat team
14:53:39 <riecatnor> We named our mage Steve :P
14:53:59 <riecatnor> last but not least
14:54:01 <lilyx> lol a noble name for a mage to be sure
14:54:01 <riecatnor> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F33_Virtual_Release_Party_Lightning_Talk_Signup
14:54:15 <riecatnor> at nest we had a lot of people asking for a more organized lightning talk session
14:54:18 <riecatnor> well here it is! lol
14:54:25 <riecatnor> look how lonely my name is there
14:54:45 <jwf> Oh I have ideas for a talk :)
14:54:56 <riecatnor> add them so I won't be so lonely!
14:55:02 <jwf> Will definitely drop my name there
14:55:03 <jwf> Oh!
14:55:06 <jwf> How long are sessions?
14:55:09 <jwf> Wiki page does not say
14:55:23 <riecatnor> oh! 5 minutes I think?
14:55:34 <jwf> OK, good to know.
14:55:35 <riecatnor> idk! it honestly depends on how many people we get
14:55:50 <riecatnor> Like, if we get 4, I can talk for 15 minutes about the zine lol
14:55:57 <riecatnor> if we get 20, maybe we need a 2 hour block
14:55:58 <jwf> That makes sense too. Maybe I will put a shorter and longer topic depending on interest :P
14:56:20 <riecatnor> I can add something in about the timing
14:56:31 <jwf> #action di-team Consider applying for a lightning talk at the F33 Release Party!
14:57:01 <jwf> riecatnor: I imagine I won't be the only one with that Q. :) An edit sounds good to me
14:57:42 <rparimi> To register to the WoW party, do I need to have a wiki account?
14:57:49 <riecatnor> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F33_Virtual_Release_Party_Lightning_Talk_Signup#Lightning_Talk_Session_Signup
14:57:52 <riecatnor> i updated it
14:57:58 <riecatnor> nope rparimi a FAS account :)
14:58:26 <rparimi> When I clicked add your name, nothing is happening. its taking me to a wiki page and nothing there
14:58:47 * rparimi uploaded an image: image.png (171KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/RlumbqlyqeufNCLMEWEkYbAy/image.png >
14:58:54 <riecatnor> ah, click the [edit]
14:59:01 <riecatnor> that is just some placeholder text
14:59:14 <riecatnor> funny that it actually links somewhere oops. I guess that is confusing
14:59:16 <riecatnor> I can break that link
14:59:24 <jwf> Just noticed we are in the last minute!
14:59:35 <jwf> And there is another meeting coming up that might steal some of us :)
14:59:48 <jwf> .nextmeeting #fedora-mindshare
14:59:51 <rparimi> <riecatnor "that is just some placeholder te"> done thank you :)
14:59:56 <zodbot> jwf: In #fedora-mindshare is Community Outreach Revamp Meeting - TTF (starting in seconds)
14:59:56 <riecatnor> #endmeeting