14:03:46 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Fedora Diversity & Inclusion Team (2021-1-21)
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14:03:46 <riecatnor> #meetingname diversity
14:03:46 <riecatnor> #nick di-team
14:03:46 <riecatnor> #chair riecatnor
14:03:46 <riecatnor> .members diversity-team
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14:03:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: riecatnor
14:03:47 <riecatnor> #topic roll call
14:03:47 <zodbot> riecatnor: Members of diversity-team: @amsharma @bee2502 bt0dotninja chhavi @jflory7 @jonatoni lilyx +marinaz +meskarune nikhilkathole orionstar25 pyadav ramyaparimi recursedd @riecatnor siddharthvipul1 @tatica x3mboy
14:03:55 <riecatnor> hello d&i team :)
14:04:02 <siddharthvipul> Helloo \o
14:04:02 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor
14:04:03 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
14:04:10 <siddharthvipul> .hello siddharthvipul1
14:04:11 <zodbot> siddharthvipul: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
14:04:26 <riecatnor> I was just getting distracted by looking at stuff around the new logo :P
14:04:52 <riecatnor> saw this article: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/03/fedora-linux-showcases-its-new-logo
14:05:07 <riecatnor> hey siddharthvipul how are you today?
14:05:23 <x3mboy> I read it, it's a nice article
14:05:37 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor, not too bad.. just dealing with some tool that I don't know who uses in Fedora xD
14:06:03 <riecatnor> lol hmmmmm
14:06:16 <riecatnor> agreed x3mboy
14:06:51 <riecatnor> we are working on getting the PMS color (pantone) matched for the logo so we are able to print
14:07:50 <siddharthvipul> very nice
14:08:18 <riecatnor> it's exciting!
14:08:28 <riecatnor> anyone else around today?
14:08:43 <MouseSheHer[m]> Morning.
14:08:52 <riecatnor> heya MouseSheHer[m]
14:08:59 <siddharthvipul> MouseSheHer[m], \o hey
14:09:08 <MouseSheHer[m]> Not feeling really well today v.v, but I am here!
14:09:31 <riecatnor> thanks for being here MouseSheHer[m] :) we appreciate it
14:09:37 <riecatnor> and no worries if you need to step away
14:10:01 <siddharthvipul> MouseSheHer[m], health first :) thank you for joining but do take care of yourself :)
14:10:17 <riecatnor> #topic announcements
14:10:32 <riecatnor> #info the council is reviewing a new draft of the Code of Conduct
14:10:37 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/145#comment-726938
14:10:45 <MouseSheHer[m]> I'm curled up with Lemon and Honey right now.
14:11:03 <riecatnor> #info discussion around the new draft of the code of conduct happening on council discussion
14:11:11 <riecatnor> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/policy-proposal-new-code-of-conduct/28822
14:11:30 <riecatnor> I saw MouseSheHer[m] you gave some comments, thank you
14:11:54 <riecatnor> curious if others have feedback on it, or if you have yet to see it, I would encourage folks to give it a read :)
14:12:10 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor, will read, added to the list
14:13:28 <riecatnor> #info Fedora Linux 34 Release Party happening at the end of this month! April 30th & May 1st
14:13:34 <riecatnor> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-34-release-party
14:13:50 <MouseSheHer[m]> Yay!
14:14:05 <riecatnor> should be fun & informative :D
14:14:28 <siddharthvipul> looking forward to it <3
14:15:50 <riecatnor> #topic d&i meetup follow up
14:16:18 <riecatnor> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/summary-from-the-diversity-inclusion-team-meetup/
14:17:27 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor, thank you for writing that
14:17:53 <riecatnor> happy to do it :) it's important we get that out there. We have seen some new folks around too
14:18:17 <riecatnor> victorybrown_[m], we are meeting if you would like to join
14:19:33 <riecatnor> as a summary from the meetup, we want to move forward with two things. A long term strategy to improve the team overall, and moving from fedora womens day to fedora week of diversity.
14:20:02 <MouseSheHer[m]> <3
14:20:10 <riecatnor> #topic tickets
14:20:15 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/195
14:20:32 <riecatnor> I see some folks showing interest there, awesome :)
14:20:55 <riecatnor> I feel the first step for Fedora Week of Diversity is choosing a theme or structure which will help inform how we plan the event
14:22:19 <riecatnor> I really enjoy jwf's idea to highlight/capitalize on some of the things we already do
14:22:31 <riecatnor> I am thinking of happiness packets, fedora appreciation week, and the contributor stories
14:23:36 <siddharthvipul> I love contributors stories
14:23:43 <siddharthvipul> would be amazing to see more of those
14:24:40 <riecatnor> Agreed!
14:25:20 <riecatnor> Part of our efforts could be to gather more contributor stories and/or promoting the happiness packets & FAW
14:25:37 <MouseSheHer[m]> I think that's the best way to do it. Put Fedora's best foot forward on the things we have done well. Show them strong, as part of building D&I back up.
14:25:54 <riecatnor> I think we could potentially do something secondary with the content we get from those efforts
14:26:21 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor, just wondering if we are thinking of reviving fedora happiness packet or just use *the* happiness packet
14:26:35 <siddharthvipul> s/packet/packets
14:27:17 <riecatnor> So say we working on promoting those efforts, got some traction, collected some content.. and then we took that in a variety of directions: thinking about the arts & crafts aspect, thinking about making videos/animations, maybe a play?? transforming these into stories that folks can engage in better than paragraphs of text
14:27:32 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, good question, I would need to look into where the project is at currently
14:27:52 <siddharthvipul> I think it was hosted on communishift (which is gone unfortunately)
14:28:08 <riecatnor> I see
14:28:09 <siddharthvipul> jwf, do correct me if I am wrong (about where it was hosted)
14:28:52 <siddharthvipul> oh, on fedora infra cloud
14:30:27 <riecatnor> we could choose one story and work on making a video for it
14:31:46 <riecatnor> OK, so I think we agree (the folks here today at least :)) that we should base our week of diversity on these projects that are already in existence. What we do with them is still in question
14:31:56 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> I'm excited I ended up with a holiday that Friday 😎 Orthodox Good Friday
14:31:59 <x3mboy> Are we changing FWD from "Fedora Women Day" to "Fedora Week of Diversity"?
14:32:03 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> For the release party
14:32:21 <riecatnor> x3mboy, yes, we made the decision at the d&i team meet up
14:32:26 <siddharthvipul> I am +1 for that
14:32:27 <riecatnor> nice jwf
14:33:24 <riecatnor> since we kind of have a base for FWD, I think the next step is to look into the each of these and come back to the ticket with a status report
14:33:48 <riecatnor> (if it is working, if it is active, if it needs some work to get going, etc)
14:34:22 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> siddharthvipul: No, you are right. FHP was going to be in Communishift, which never ended up happening
14:34:40 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> The project needs devops love, specifically on getting it into a secure production environment
14:35:04 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> There was a lot of good work we did with FHP… if it were live, we could even have badges for sending and receiving packets
14:35:13 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Anyways, sorry for off-topic
14:35:34 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> +1 riecatnor, re: status report
14:35:38 <riecatnor> not off topic actually :)
14:35:57 <riecatnor> that is part of the status report we want hehe
14:36:02 <siddharthvipul> @jwflory, thank you! it would be easy to have an aws ec2 instance if we still want it (wondering how much code base is deployment ready)
14:36:04 <riecatnor> I am taking notes for the ticket right now
14:36:58 <siddharthvipul> why ec2? because as much as I would love to see it in communishift, that's going no where for now (don't know how long it will take) and Fedora's Infra is limited
14:37:23 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> siddharthvipul: We're talking Django
14:37:31 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> We modernized so much of the code base from upstream Happiness Packets
14:37:39 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Python 3, Django 2, etc
14:37:50 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> It should be ready to go for anyone that has ever deployed a Django site
14:37:57 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> We also have containerized it, I think
14:38:08 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor, @jwflory, it could be a good thing to discuss with help with webdev sig.. if the code is ready, deployment shouldn't be much effort
14:38:12 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> We definitely did for local development, just trying to remember if our container was ready for production
14:38:29 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> siddharthvipul: yes, although not sure if that will manifest in time for FWD?
14:38:47 <siddharthvipul> oh right, that's a different thing
14:38:52 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> It could. But we'd probably need to look at the Websites & Apps objective and what we are promising to do already
14:39:26 <riecatnor> I don't want to burden them yet, they are working through some organizational things still :)
14:39:55 <riecatnor> My thought is, since we have some skills here on the team :D we could do a hackfest to get it back up?
14:40:23 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> It is possible, although just want to be mindful of not biting off more than we can chew
14:40:38 <riecatnor> so, jwf, do you think we shouldn'
14:40:41 <riecatnor> t focus on HP
14:40:41 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> But it could be a weekend's amount of work, if we had an OpenShift expert
14:41:05 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> I think it is a big task. We could just use https://happinesspackets.io this year too
14:41:19 <siddharthvipul> hmm, I know my way around openshift (or can also create an aws vm if needed), but no way an expert
14:41:22 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> And during this year, start thinking of how to get FHP deployed
14:41:31 <siddharthvipul> @jwflory, what kind of thing (as in openshift expert)
14:41:44 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Packaging and deploying a containerized Django web app.
14:41:50 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> With a database.
14:41:55 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> I think it uses Postgres.
14:41:55 <siddharthvipul> that shouldn't be too complex
14:42:21 <MouseSheHer[m]> FHP?
14:42:30 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> That's the ask :) I know FHP, but my container and OpenShift knowledge is super rusty.
14:42:30 <MouseSheHer[m]> Oh wait, no I get it now, back on track
14:42:32 <riecatnor> i sense siddharthvipul is going to try getting this up?!?
14:43:04 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor, haha, since I am not familiar with code, if there is any issue there, might not be able to help :P
14:43:06 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Mouse: all good :D FHP == Fedora Happiness Packets for any other confused folks
14:43:08 <riecatnor> when i wrote "HP" i thought harry potter? hewlet packard?
14:43:11 <riecatnor> lol
14:43:14 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Lolol
14:43:25 <MouseSheHer[m]> https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/fedora-happiness-packets
14:43:34 <MouseSheHer[m]> That whole thing.
14:43:37 <siddharthvipul> HPMoR, not I need to read it (my favorite fiction)
14:43:43 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/fedora-happiness-packets
14:43:48 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> siddharthvipul: the code is not an issue, there might be small things we need to update but most of the work to-do should be in the container
14:44:02 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> We got far on the code in Outreachy 2019
14:44:12 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Just underplanned on the deployment part of the timeline
14:44:20 <MouseSheHer[m]> Harry potter, big part of my life, .....horrible author v.v. Anyway, don't want to start tangent there.
14:44:32 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Mouse: :D relatable tho
14:44:35 <riecatnor> oof, yea. I think a lot of us have those feels
14:44:52 <riecatnor> so, this convo seems productive, tho I am wondering if someone can sum it up in the ticket?
14:44:54 <fm-diversity> pagure.issue.comment.added -- riecatnor commented on ticket fedora-diversity#195: "Future of FWD: Fedora Week of Diversity Planning" https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/195#comment-727474
14:45:21 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> siddharthvipul: do you want to take this one or me?
14:46:02 <siddharthvipul> @jwflory, I would like to help but as I am totally unaware of where it's at (hearing you makes me feel it's not very far), I am still not sure if I can commit
14:46:13 <siddharthvipul> can I take some time to explore and deploy in a test openshift over the weekend?
14:46:27 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Oh I just mean the ticket comment lol
14:46:35 <siddharthvipul> oh lol, sure!
14:46:40 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> I think we need one more meeting to plan requirements
14:46:42 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Before leaping in
14:47:21 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> riecatnor: Alright, we'll take it to the ticket until next time 🙂
14:47:38 <riecatnor> great! Looking at contributor stories rn
14:47:40 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> siddharthvipul++ for taking the follow-up ticket comment
14:47:45 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/contributor-stories
14:47:50 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Anything in particular about them?
14:48:01 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Oh, actually I guess a lot of folks here might not know about them yet?
14:48:34 <riecatnor> well, just wondering how that works, and how we can make it work in relation to FWD
14:48:39 <riecatnor> reading the repo now :)O
14:48:47 <riecatnor> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contributor-stories/
14:48:49 <riecatnor> there is also this
14:49:01 <MouseSheHer[m]> Maybe do a call for stories in the Magazine?
14:49:18 <riecatnor> I think it may be more effective on the comm blog
14:49:28 <riecatnor> and also more informal social platforms
14:50:07 <riecatnor> During Fedora Appreciation Week, new Community Blog posts will be published daily with excerpts or copies of the stories.
14:50:19 <fm-diversity> pagure.issue.comment.added -- siddharthvipul1 commented on ticket fedora-diversity#195: "Future of FWD: Fedora Week of Diversity Planning" https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/195#comment-727475
14:50:47 <MouseSheHer[m]> And...new book mark. So much to learn about fedora ;)
14:51:10 <riecatnor> jwf, question, did FAW happen in 2019 or 2020?
14:51:31 <riecatnor> (last FAW thing on commblog shows a date of 2018)
14:51:56 <jwf> No
14:52:02 <jwf> Just 2018
14:52:07 <riecatnor> ok ok
14:52:36 <riecatnor> did you coordinate that? did you find it to be a lot of work?
14:55:35 <riecatnor> maybe we can chat more about that later jwf or if you have reflections on FAW or contributor stories and what needs to happen to get those going, feel free to add to the ticket.
14:55:53 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> I was one of the coordinating folks but it was really a team effort.
14:56:20 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> Most of the hard work was on communication. Getting folks to know this is a thing we are doing, where and how to submit stories, when they can expect to see things go live, etc
14:56:52 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> The execution was fairly simple to me. For the CommBlog posts, I made a template and then copy-pasted things from Pagure into the CommBlog
14:57:01 <tg-fed-di> <j​wflory> (during Appreciation Week, I mean)
14:57:52 <riecatnor> cool, i captured that feedback
14:58:06 <riecatnor> we are running short on time, jwf can you provide a quick piece of feedback on FAW overall?
14:58:20 <riecatnor> was it made up of contributor stories and FHP?
14:58:33 <riecatnor> were there additional aspects?
15:01:20 <riecatnor> guess jwf had to go for now :)
15:01:23 <riecatnor> as do i!
15:01:35 <riecatnor> thank you folks for the good brainstorm
15:01:42 <riecatnor> #endmeeting