18:01:20 <zoglesby> #startmeeting
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18:01:21 <zoglesby> #meetingname docs
18:01:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'docs'
18:01:28 <zoglesby> #meetingtopic Docs Office Hours
18:01:36 <zoglesby> #info Please ask questions, talk about bug, or discuss anything else about Docs.
18:02:08 <Sparks> How does one publish a guide being that our toolset doesn't support our current infrastructure?
18:02:19 * Sparks runs
18:02:23 <zoglesby> Sparks: Gnome Boxes
18:02:56 <Sparks> zoglesby: I've never really been successful with Boxes.
18:03:16 * randomuser is lurking around
18:03:21 <zoglesby> Sparks: also you have to have the rights to do so, and I just took yours away
18:03:33 <Sparks> zoglesby: Awesome
18:03:36 <zoglesby> lol
18:07:32 * mpduty wants to ask something about Fedora Live
18:07:49 <zoglesby> mpduty: go for it
18:08:29 <mpduty> zoglesby, I am writing beat on Fedora Live, how do I get what are the changes taking place
18:08:53 <randomuser> mpduty, you'd check the rawhide spin kickstarts at this point
18:09:38 <mpduty> zoglesby, any developer contact?
18:10:58 <zoglesby> mpduty: I think that its done by releng
18:11:53 <zoglesby> mpduty: please don't take this the wrong way, but what you have written so far is more of a guide and not release notes
18:12:31 <mpduty> zoglesby, yes I was thinking the same
18:12:31 <zoglesby> mpduty: release notes are used to highlight changes
18:13:09 <zoglesby> mpduty: check the following as an example of text in the Live image beat in the past
18:13:12 <zoglesby> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Live_Image_Beat&direction=prev&oldid=217443
18:13:20 <mpduty> zoglesby, yes thank you
18:14:36 <randomuser> wow, there's really a lot in there mpduty
18:15:07 <randomuser> you know there's a guide that already covers most of that you could work on, right?
18:15:38 <mpduty> randomuser, yes
18:17:04 <randomuser> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/readme-burning-isos.git/
18:17:20 <Sparks> Good golly, does that thing still exist?
18:17:43 <randomuser> it was readme-live-image or whatever we deprecated
18:18:27 <zoglesby> randomuser: we should have deprecated burning iso not live image, but whatever works
18:18:47 <zoglesby> as long as the content is still around
18:19:22 <randomuser> zoglesby, well, people needed instructions on creating media, and we haven't been saying *anything* about live images
18:21:21 <zoglesby> randomuser: true
18:21:58 <zoglesby> I tend to forget that people burn cds still
18:22:17 <randomuser> i burned a cd just yesterday
18:23:15 <zoglesby> I have to dig around for a while just to find a cd drive
18:24:01 <randomuser> mpduty, check out https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/spins/\
18:24:16 <mpduty> randomuser, ok
18:24:22 <randomuser> each one of the specific spins will also have a SIG you can talk to
18:25:53 <randomuser> jsmith, are you around today?
18:38:18 <randomuser> this captive portal is terrible
18:41:15 <Sparks> Which captive portal?
18:41:38 <randomuser> the one in my office, some cisco in a box thing
18:44:19 * randomuser is reading about ACLs
18:44:43 <randomuser> i was trying to write something using them last night, and discovered I don't know enough to do that
19:05:09 <zoglesby> #endmeeting