18:00:55 #startmeeting 18:00:55 Meeting started Thu May 15 18:00:55 2014 UTC. The chair is randomuser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:01:23 #meetingname Fedora Docs Office Hours 18:01:23 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs_office_hours' 18:01:51 hi randomuser 18:01:53 #topic publishing progress 18:01:55 hi 18:03:47 who is here today? 18:04:03 me 18:04:39 oops, I haven't noticed that there's a meeting going on :-) 18:07:45 ok, i'm off the phone, onto the laptop 18:07:57 ciupicri, it's an informal thing, just a designated time to hang out 18:10:14 a working session 18:23:05 * zoglesby is here, but also not 18:23:13 ack 18:23:21 hey rudi_ , are you here? 18:32:20 * radnomuser` gripe gripe 18:35:28 i'll see if changing the nameserver helps 18:35:55 randomuser: what's up? 18:36:10 my irc connection keeps timing out 18:37:13 ...but not with a different nameserver,so far 18:37:16 eeeenteresting 19:03:33 okay, mail sent to test@ 19:07:53 i'll leave the meeting open for a bit, Sparks hasn't done the traditional oops-is-it-over yet :P 19:21:12 hi 19:21:44 hello 19:22:01 how I can help ? ;) 19:22:05 ha! 19:22:38 I have a big list, ignatenkobrain - what would you *like* to do? 19:23:54 randomuser: I like QA, packaging ;) 19:24:24 now want to write something ;) 19:24:31 nice 19:24:56 we have a big stack of books you could hack on 19:25:16 or if you want to write a short tutorial style thing, i recently created a book just for those thigns 19:25:49 yeah, I'd like to write short/not short tutorials ;) 19:25:57 let me know what to do ! 19:26:02 awesome, hang on 19:26:45 ignatenkobrain, i suspect you won't be offended if I point you at a git repo and ask you to build a doc? 19:26:58 i can build it for you if so, that's not a problem 19:27:10 * randomuser probably should do that anyway 19:27:47 what you mean in "build a doc" ? 19:28:08 anyway point me to the git repo 19:28:17 the books are written in docbook; we use a tool called 'publican' to make html, pdf, etc 19:28:43 if you prefer, you can just write your tutorial in markdown or whatever, pandoc and I can do the rest 19:28:57 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/fedora-cookbook.git 19:29:16 you want to also install publican publican-fedora 19:30:27 ignatenkobrain, really, i just want to get you to the introduction/directions to this book for now 19:31:10 first I need choose theme.. 19:31:33 will you here after 1h ? 19:31:45 it's very possible 19:32:10 I have to go for now (moving to the home). I'll ping you ASAP. 19:32:22 Sparks, your GPG key recipe is <sloppy> 19:32:30 ignatenkobrain, okay, talk to you soon 19:39:30 randomuser: Oh is it office hours again? 19:39:34 heh 19:39:50 randomuser: Yes, I was just trying to get notes out the door. 19:39:53 Sparks, my recipes are waay more broken than yours 19:43:00 randomuser: Then what you complaining about? 19:43:04 jsmith: You about? 19:44:06 no complaints, just observations 19:55:40 randomuser: heh 20:06:10 ignatenkobrain, if you cloned that already, do a `git pull` to grab the commit i just pushed to fix the build 20:07:01 then `publican build --lang en-US --format html;firefox tmp/en-US/html/index.html` 20:10:29 OR! 20:10:36 read it here: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/docs/cookbook/chap-Documentation-Fedora_Cookbook-Test_Chapter.html 20:34:31 I'm here 20:34:45 randomuser: installing publican and publicn-fedora 20:34:54 ack 20:35:13 su much perl depends ^^ 20:35:18 yah 20:35:22 s/su/so/ 20:35:31 ignatenkobrain, did you think of a topic on your way home? 20:36:23 I thought, again thought.... Should take a look other articles 20:36:46 ignatenkobrain, think about the simple stuff you do right after installing a new fedora version 20:36:50 want to write about packaging 20:37:16 ah, for packaging, i will point you at the packager's guide 20:37:23 I'm not installing new fedora version :D 20:37:30 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/packagers-guide.git/https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/packagers-guide.git/ 20:37:34 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/packagers-guide.git/ 20:37:35 ... 20:37:52 pkovar is distilling the packaging docs on the wiki into that 20:38:32 Unknown option: lang 20:38:37 Unknown option: format 20:38:42 Can't open publican: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/publican line 385. 20:38:51 whaa! 20:39:06 385 GetOptions( \%opts, @optns, ) 20:39:54 you're in the cloned directory, with a publican.cfg in the top level? 20:40:21 publican.cfg: ASCII text 20:40:23 yep 20:40:30 oh, it is --langs --formats sorry 20:40:47 that changed recently, muscle memory took over :) 20:41:06 heh 20:41:31 randomuser: That changed a year ago! :)) 20:41:59 jhradilek, i just got rid of my F18 box _last weekend_ ! 20:42:00 jhradilek: :D 20:42:43 why in index.html I don't see articles about ssh, gpg, etc ? 20:43:01 i think they are not included 20:43:32 or the include was commented out 20:44:31 ignatenkobrain, jhradilek is around often and a good person to come to with questions 20:44:41 ignatenkobrain: Hello. :) 20:44:48 jhradilek: hi :) 20:45:35 12:45 am here 20:46:03 :( 20:46:13 I've taked a look for ssh-keygen art 20:46:22 seems cool 20:46:30 but can't determine theme 20:46:33 art? 20:46:39 article 20:47:38 the theme isn't very broad; just a short article on how to create an ssh key 20:51:34 hmmm. I wrote in my blog about "libvirt from user", "selinux support regex", "some interesting for me options in git", "setup xorg config for Trackpoint in ThinkPad" 20:51:48 is something like interesting ? 20:51:58 like this* 20:52:33 sure, those are great! 20:53:22 that's one goal of the cookbook; bring in stuff that people have already written for their blogs, polish it a little, get it translated and published 20:56:02 nice!! so, I'll have a sleep, work and tomorrow at evening will start writing something 20:56:14 randomuser, jhradilek: goodnight ;) 20:56:30 goodnight, see you around 20:56:49 Wow, this is still going! 20:56:56 And people are here! 20:57:02 WIN! 20:59:51 ignatenkobrain: Good night! 20:59:51 are you here now, zoglesby ? 21:00:36 zoglesby, jhradilek - did I paste this link here? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/docs-backend/en-US/ 21:00:59 randomuser: 404 21:01:30 zoglesby, it's coming from varnish - give it a few tries 21:01:55 randomuser: Ha, I can see it! 21:02:01 randomuser: now it works... 21:02:37 randomuser: this is coming from the docs backend server, so that we don't need to ssh? 21:03:12 zoglesby, coming indirectly, as you noticed, but we don't need the tunnel 21:03:37 randomuser: very nice 21:03:48 thank nirik 21:04:45 there are things that I like about the default theme, that we should think about keeping 21:05:03 like the way the TOC appears for the books 21:05:05 randomuser: there are also things that we should not keep 21:05:16 randomuser: I do like the TOC 21:05:31 the boring grey color scheme can go 21:05:52 +1 21:06:08 the splash page's menu structure might not scale well with lots of releases and books 21:06:27 and we need a logo that is transparent 21:06:42 it would be nice to have it be legacy->19->20 21:07:51 randomuser: good point, I did not think of that 21:08:47 randomuser: also what are we going to due about old docs? Are we going to leave a copy of the old site up, or are we going to do the work of packaging old versions of docs? 21:09:07 do, not due 21:09:29 zoglesby: I believe rudi was going to package the old versions. 21:09:37 I'm fine with that 21:09:43 zoglesby: I had planning on doing the SG as long as it wasn't too crazy 21:10:07 we'll have to make sure that everything we want current is published, of course 21:10:08 Sparks: that is great, as long as rudi has the time. 21:10:45 zoglesby: Wait until 7.0 is released... :) 21:10:49 it might be better said that rudi was planning that it be done; that's one thing he pointed me at when I offered to help 21:11:22 randomuser: we may need to start moving current docs over soon (maybe at office hours?) 21:11:39 yeah, we need to start thinking about that 21:12:02 randomuser: is everything working with the expection of the theme? 21:12:13 #action randomuser to talk to lnovich about packaging docs during emea office hours rtoo 21:12:31 rtoodtoo 21:12:49 zoglesby, there are a couple changes I need to make to the playbook, and i'm confused about how parts of the theme appear to come from different packages 21:13:01 but mostly the CSS, yeah 21:13:03 #undo 21:13:03 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by randomuser at 21:12:13 : randomuser to talk to lnovich about packaging docs during emea office hours rtoo 21:13:09 #action randomuser to talk to lnovich about packaging docs during emea office hours too 21:13:18 #rundo! 21:19:23 Sparks, i have radio codeplugs to create, do you know software that can help me be lazy about it? 21:36:48 ok, it does XML 21:52:06 hey, good office hours today! 21:52:10 #endmeeting