18:01:14 <lnovich> #startmeeting
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18:01:25 <lnovich> ok that worked!
18:01:37 <randomuser> then meetingname and topic
18:02:07 <zodbot> lnovich: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
18:02:42 <lnovich> #info if there are any new writers out there that have questions - speak up there is an audience to hear you!
18:03:15 <ciupicri> #info (nope)
18:03:37 <ciupicri> does the boot give feedback for every #action?
18:03:47 <lnovich> one of these days I will get the hang of the feedback mechanism
18:04:10 <randomuser> ciupicri, no feedback for actions, but they are called out in the minutes
18:04:27 <lnovich> so ciupcri - have any questions?
18:05:53 <ciupicri> not really, although I do have a curiosity
18:06:39 <lnovich> sure - what about?
18:06:47 <ciupicri> why doesn't Red Hat publish the man pages of the software bundled in RHEL4, RHEL5, RHEL6 (Workstation, Server, whatever) so that I could point someone to the man page
18:07:16 <lnovich> can  you be more specific?
18:07:31 <lnovich> what do you mean by publish?
18:07:35 <ciupicri> publish on the redhat.com website
18:07:50 <lnovich> that's because it is in the man page of the software package
18:08:21 <lnovich> same content in 2 places becomes a managerial issue should it change
18:08:22 <ciupicri> if I want to point someone to an online version of the su man page from RHEL6, I can't
18:08:41 <lnovich> you just tell them to go to the man page of the package
18:08:57 <lnovich> if they have installed the package the man page is there
18:09:06 <ciupicri> that's better than nothing, but it can be tricky
18:09:22 <lnovich> what are you working on?
18:09:39 <ciupicri> see http://serverfault.com/a/599704/4276 and its comments for example
18:10:03 <ciupicri> RHEL has one version of su and Ubuntu another one
18:11:01 <lnovich> ok
18:11:14 <lnovich> and are you working on a Fedora document?
18:11:28 <ciupicri> no, it was just a curiosity/rant, nothing more
18:11:42 <lnovich> ok so this isn
18:11:50 <randomuser> lnovich, can you please take a look at the tsc section of libvirt_domain_xml ? there are lots of commented out comments that publican croaks on, and I'm not sure what to keep or discard
18:12:02 <lnovich> this isn't really the right forum for that
18:12:09 <lnovich> sure randomuser
18:12:33 <ciupicri> I know, but since you happened to be online, I took the opportunity. Sorry if I bothered you.
18:12:57 <lnovich> can you do me a favor as well? I have a new laptop and nothing I need for Fedora docs is installed. Where is that instruction page for GIT?
18:13:41 <randomuser> yum install publican publican-fedora
18:13:52 <randomuser> git clone ssh://git.fedorahosted.org/git/docs/virtualization-deployment-and-administration-guide.git
18:15:22 <randomuser> lnovich, at some point, we should sit down to a little hackfest and add a lot of ugly conditionals
18:15:32 <randomuser> condition=fedora or condition=rhel
18:15:56 <lnovich> would love to but will the L18N team kill me for it?
18:16:21 <randomuser> i never heard complaints about it in the installation guide
18:16:56 <randomuser> it would be a lot of work up front, but you'd make up for it in the long run when you don't have to comment and uncomment content when you move content back and forth
18:17:34 <randomuser> it might even work for titles and such, and save you the trouble of s/Fedora/RHEV/ and such
18:18:18 <randomuser> good afternoon, pkovar ; good morning, jhradilek
18:18:48 <randomuser> GDTY Capesteve , don't want to leave anyone short of greetings
18:19:05 <Capesteve> randomuser: GDTY
18:19:31 <Capesteve> How are things in the north?
18:20:11 <randomuser> I spent a few days drinking beer in the mountains and have developed a painful sunburn
18:20:12 <Capesteve> I'll be flying past you in a three weeks, going to Vancouver
18:20:24 <Capesteve> ouch
18:21:00 <randomuser> Cool, what's in vancouver?
18:22:20 <Capesteve> Big Sky Country, big sun too
18:22:44 <Capesteve> randomuser: I am going for a sightseeing trip
18:22:57 <lnovich> nice bonvoyage capesteve!
18:23:09 <Capesteve> but wife has conference there, so I am tagging along
18:23:21 <Capesteve> lnovich: too early but thanks anyway
18:24:41 <randomuser> Capesteve, do you know what route you'll take?
18:25:14 <Capesteve> errr, no, I have become very lazy in my old age and leave things thongs up to the pilots
18:25:20 <randomuser> i'm curious if you're flying *directly* over me
18:25:24 <randomuser> hehe
18:25:35 <Capesteve> things (oops)
18:26:06 <Capesteve> Vienna > LHR > Vancouver {is what the ticket says}
18:27:26 <lnovich> when do you go capesteve?
18:27:38 <jhradilek> randomuser: Good morning. :)
18:28:17 <Capesteve> lnovich: 3 weeks
18:28:33 <jhradilek> I mean, good morning *everyone*. :)
18:31:01 <lnovich> hi jhradilek!
18:33:15 <randomuser> a flight that long will probably take you very far north. I'll be off to the left, under that cloud; wave when you go by :)
18:37:05 <lnovich> vienna -> vancouver certianly is a long floght
18:37:08 <lnovich> flight
18:41:00 <lnovich> I'll take a cool breeze and big sky any day - heat wave here at the moment
18:43:38 <Capesteve> YVR to LHR  the flight would take off headed N.E. , and fly over the northern part of Canada, over Greenland, then gradually go to a lower longitude, arching over Ireland, Scotland, and then finally land at London.
18:44:05 <Capesteve> randomuser: a description I found for the return journey ^
18:46:49 <randomuser> i think the next flight I take might be to look at bears
18:47:19 <randomuser> $dayjob people fly around looking at all kinds of critters, sounds like a fun thing to get in on
19:01:08 <randomuser> hmm.. looks like publican here wants a BZURL entity
19:01:33 <randomuser> i wonder if that's a new thing or something stale in my packages
19:03:16 <Capesteve> randomuser: http://www.greatcirclemapper.net/en/great-circle-mapper/route/EGLL-CYVR.html
19:14:24 <lnovich> #endmeeting