19:06:38 <randomuser> #startmeeting Fedora Docs Office Hours 19:06:38 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 6 19:06:38 2014 UTC. The chair is randomuser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:06:38 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:07:14 <randomuser> bah, mpduty left 19:27:10 <fedmsg-docs> trac.git.receive -- immanetize pushed some commits to the 'docs/release-notes' fedorahosted git repository https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/release-notes.git/commit/?id=8cf009167f56e8cc15ce960f8833289c25451791 20:30:37 <randomuser> nb, you're running out of time to get relnotes badges 22:29:10 <fedmsg-docs> trac.git.receive -- sclark pushed some commits to the 'docs/release-notes' fedorahosted git repository https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/release-notes.git/commit/?id=de1be9e22c77b0efcfdcdccf9c007cffc57190a3 22:34:31 <nb> randomuser, oh? 22:34:36 <nb> what kind of relates badges? 22:34:42 <randomuser> indeed 22:34:53 <nb> what kind of relnotes badges? what must i do? 22:34:53 <randomuser> nb, the kind you get for relnotes contributions 22:35:57 <randomuser> nb, make some useful commits to release-notes.git 22:37:11 <nb> oh, they are automatic? so i can just touch a file, then remove it? nice :) 22:37:12 <nb> lol jk 22:37:30 <randomuser> ha, no, they aren't 22:37:49 <randomuser> I do it manually, since people contribute via wiki, bz, mail, etc as well 22:38:17 <nb> oh ok :) 22:39:23 <randomuser> nb, how long does it generally take pubkeys uploaded to FAS to propagate? 22:39:54 <nb> not long 22:39:59 <nb> what server are you wanting to access 22:40:25 <randomuser> i'm convincing dowdle to put his feed on fedorapeople, he hasn't logged in for a while 22:40:52 <nb> let me know when he updates his key and i'll run fasClient 22:41:27 <randomuser> he did that 22:41:50 <pbokoc> randomuser, what's the scariest thing an unauthorized person could do with a root password? I'm trying to write a warning for the "create root password" spoke in the installer and I'd love to put something better in there than "someone could install something or whatever" 22:43:26 <randomuser> delete and access everyone's personal or sensitive files, exploit the machine for their own nefarious purposes, change everyone's background to angry alpaca pictures 22:43:40 <randomuser> the last one is probably the worst. Have you seen those things? 22:43:44 * randomuser PUNCH! 22:44:22 <nb> WOW 22:44:23 <nb> Last login: Fri Aug 8 11:10:57 2014 from natu.fit.cvut.cz 22:44:34 <nb> i haven't been on fedora people since Flock 22:44:43 <randomuser> pbokoc, see if you can find a picture of some mangy animal defecating on a chassis 22:46:20 <pbokoc> hahahah 22:47:18 <nb> randomuser, fasClient has been ran, so he should be able to use the new key 22:47:53 <randomuser> thanks 22:48:26 <randomuser> nb, that was just `sudo fasClient` on fedorapeople 22:48:27 <randomuser> ? 22:49:24 <nb> sudo fasClient -i -f 22:49:27 <nb> .fasinfo immanetize 22:49:28 <zodbot> nb: User: immanetize, Name: Pete Travis, email: me@petetravis.com, Creation: 2011-10-17, IRC Nick: randomuser, Timezone: US/Mountain, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 2D31EC9E, Status: active 22:49:31 <zodbot> nb: Approved Groups: gitpublican-fedora sysadmin-hosted sysadmin-docs sysadmin-web sysadmin +docs-publishers +docs-writers +docs packager cla_fpca cla_done fedorabugs 22:49:36 <nb> you ca't do it 22:49:42 <nb> i think it requires sysadmin-tools 22:49:48 <randomuser> ah, ok 22:50:16 <nb> hmm, perhaps you should be a sponsor for sysadmin-docs? 22:50:41 <randomuser> who is it now, you and rudi? 22:50:49 <nb> .members sysadmin-docs 22:50:50 <zodbot> nb: Members of sysadmin-docs: immanetize jhradile @nb +rlandmann sparks zoglesby 22:50:54 <nb> yes 22:50:58 * randomuser nods 22:51:09 <nb> .fasinfo nb 22:51:10 <zodbot> nb: User: nb, Name: Nick Bebout, email: nick@bebout.net, Creation: 2007-04-05, IRC Nick: nb, Timezone: America/Chicago, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 110810E9, Status: active 22:51:13 <zodbot> nb: Approved Groups: freemedia @security-team @marketing @magazine gitpublican-fedora +wikiadmin +qa @sysadmin-docs hgfedora-packager elections famsco gitcsi gitfas gitbodhi gitelections cla_fedora cla_done @sysadmin-keys gitfama ambassadors gitsupybot-fedora gitfedora-business-cards @sysadmin-paste designteam sysadmin-logs @gitfedora-web sysadmin-devel @gitauto-mass-check bzrpython-fedora cvsfedora @docs-writers (1 more message) 22:51:18 * nb wishes there was a "what is my role in such and such group" command 22:51:24 <randomuser> showoff! 22:51:27 <nb> .more 22:51:27 <zodbot> nb: @docs @docs-publishers provenpackager +packager irc-support-operators +sysadmin-web +sysadmin +sysadmin-noc proventesters gitfpaste +sysadmin-test +sysadmin-tools +fedorabugs +sysadmin-hosted cvsl10n @gitimapsync gitfpaste-server @web gitdocbook-locales svnpublican @sysadmin-dns +fi-apprentice cla_fpca @gitkeysigning-party-manual 22:51:38 * nb was trying to see what i was for sysadmin group, to see if i can upgrade people 22:51:59 <nb> because sysadmin-docs sponsors should really have sysadmin sponsor-ability also 22:51:59 <randomuser> I need to get the pre-EOL badges this time around, iirc 22:52:09 <nb> pre-EOL badges? 22:52:18 <nb> since sysadmin is a prerequisite for sysadmin-docs 22:52:39 <randomuser> nah, I'm happy with some external oversight on who gets into sysadmin 22:53:02 <nb> yeah, true. you can always ping me to add people 22:53:06 <nb> or nirik or someone 22:53:06 <randomuser> going through the infra apprentice process is generally not a bad idea 22:53:14 <nb> hmm. good point 22:53:28 <nb> so far i've kinda skipped fi-apprentice for docs people 22:53:47 <nb> do you want sponsor for sysadmin-docs? 22:53:51 <randomuser> well, it's at least people that aren't trying to do more than than docs :P 22:53:53 <randomuser> yes, please 22:55:29 <randomuser> nb, i'm thinking of the badges like 'cold dead hands' or whatever there is for testing or comitting etc to a package between when Fn comes out and Fn-2 goes eol 22:55:34 <nb> oh 22:55:36 <nb> yeah 22:55:50 * randomuser & 22:58:06 <nb> .fasinfo immanetize 22:58:09 <zodbot> nb: User: immanetize, Name: Pete Travis, email: me@petetravis.com, Creation: 2011-10-17, IRC Nick: randomuser, Timezone: US/Mountain, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 2D31EC9E, Status: active 22:58:12 <zodbot> nb: Approved Groups: gitpublican-fedora sysadmin-hosted +sysadmin-docs sysadmin-web sysadmin +docs-publishers +docs-writers +docs packager cla_fpca cla_done fedorabugs 22:58:42 <nb> randomuser, you are now a sponsor for sysadmin-docs but will still have to get someone to add the person to sysadmin (or fi-apprentice first, then sysadmin later if you choose) 22:58:57 <nb> and you should be admin not sponsor for the docs* groups 22:59:28 <randomuser> that would be nice 23:00:46 <nb> .fasinfo immanetize 23:00:47 <zodbot> nb: User: immanetize, Name: Pete Travis, email: me@petetravis.com, Creation: 2011-10-17, IRC Nick: randomuser, Timezone: US/Mountain, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 2D31EC9E, Status: active 23:00:50 <zodbot> nb: Approved Groups: @docs-publishers @docs-writers @docs gitpublican-fedora sysadmin-hosted +sysadmin-docs sysadmin-web sysadmin packager cla_fpca cla_done fedorabugs 23:00:52 <nb> there 23:13:47 <randomuser> nice, thanks nb 00:45:46 <fedmsg-docs> trac.git.receive -- pbokoc pushed some commits to the 'docs/install-guide' fedorahosted git repository https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/install-guide.git/commit/?id=58143502bba3fd2899a9baae5ce9e1f964f12279 00:45:46 <fedmsg-docs> trac.git.receive -- pbokoc pushed some commits to the 'docs/install-guide' fedorahosted git repository https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/install-guide.git/commit/?id=58143502bba3fd2899a9baae5ce9e1f964f12279 00:49:30 <nb> randomuser, so how is it going getting stuff all set up on the new docs-backend server 00:51:12 <randomuser> nb publican confuses me. I have not figured out the correct way to put all the pieces together. 00:51:20 <nb> oh 00:53:15 <randomuser> nb, there were some post to docs@ recently from jeff that helped, but also raised more questions 00:54:09 <randomuser> it sort of works in situ, but packaging it all up has proven difficult 00:58:54 <randomuser> nb, I think I'm going to buy a large volume of dead buffalo 07:41:10 <Capesteve> Morning 16:18:56 <fedmsg-docs> trac.git.receive -- sclark pushed some commits to the 'docs/release-notes' fedorahosted git repository https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/release-notes.git/commit/?id=baf50f3702633dea21f0c2cbb0ec9e949ecbbc40 16:23:46 <fedmsg-docs> trac.git.receive -- sclark pushed some commits to the 'docs/release-notes' fedorahosted git repository https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/release-notes.git/commit/?id=c70dcb13f7560c0651a3c4cb093b6c8330313d8d 17:20:32 <fedmsg-docs> trac.git.receive -- pbokoc pushed some commits to the 'docs/install-guide' fedorahosted git repository https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/install-guide.git/commit/?id=782d3c84724539f3105aa04ff3056645aaf37266 17:20:32 <fedmsg-docs> trac.git.receive -- pbokoc pushed some commits to the 'docs/install-guide' fedorahosted git repository https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/install-guide.git/commit/?id=782d3c84724539f3105aa04ff3056645aaf37266 08:46:27 <lnovich> ping 09:16:10 <Capesteve> lnovich: ping who? 09:17:07 <lnovich> no one - not to worry Capesteve - I am not the ding dong ditch of ping and pong 09:17:32 <lnovich> didn't realize my mouse was in the wrong window 13:59:22 <randomuser> .pingdocs meeting real soon 14:00:22 <Capesteve> ta 14:02:56 <randomuser> #endmeeting