19:16:00 <randomuser> #startmeeting Fedora Docs Office Hours
19:16:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 18 19:16:00 2014 UTC.  The chair is randomuser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:31:13 <randomuser> zoglesby, are you following the firefox start page bug?
19:32:51 <randomuser> I don't see you CCd so here, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1157682
20:04:13 <fedmsg-docs> 13trac.git.receive -- stephenw pushed some commits to the 'docs/networking-guide' fedorahosted git repository 10http://da.gd/lRvP
20:09:21 <zoglesby> randomuser: wow
20:09:38 <zoglesby> i read it a while ago, but it is a little hostile now
20:10:51 <randomuser> yah
20:12:04 <randomuser> zoglesby, I don't think myself capable of participating there anymore without escalating the hostility
20:12:39 <randomuser> and it's a bit unnerving that I find myself weighing a response anyway
20:13:46 <zoglesby> randomuser: yeah, not sure what you could say.
20:14:09 <zoglesby> If someone is not willing to accept 'the council said so'
20:15:55 <zoglesby> I found the change to be odd, and it seems to break on my work PC as my firefox setting sync to it
20:16:13 <zoglesby> it get 'data:text/plain,browser.startup.homepage=about:newtab' in the URL bar in Windows now
20:16:49 <randomuser> that seems like relevant, dryly factual, and user-experience impacting information you could share
20:17:25 <randomuser> I'd go as far as to call that an actual, inarguable bug in the implementation
20:18:41 <zoglesby> I would agree with that
20:20:39 <zoglesby> also https://start.fedoraproject.org/ looks very ugly
20:21:56 <randomuser> firefox-redhat-default-prefs.js:pref("browser.startup.homepage",            "data:text/plain,browser.startup.homepage=about:newtab");
20:22:22 <randomuser> hahaha
20:22:33 <randomuser> it *does* look very ugly
20:22:40 <randomuser> I wonder how that happened
20:28:53 <randomuser> zoglesby, my autoconfig thing from CCK2 here uses the same syntax, "data:text/plain,browser.startup.homepage=URI"
20:31:51 <Capesteve> Re: having a dynamic home page that updates itself based on browsing behaviour seems most appropriate
20:31:59 <zoglesby> okay, but what is browser.stawrtup.homepage set to in about:config
20:32:03 <Capesteve> I don't like that at all in Firefox
20:32:15 <zoglesby> my value is a 'data:text/plain,browser.startup.homepage=about:newtab'
20:32:35 <Capesteve> I prefer the Opera idea of letting you chose what to see
20:32:51 <randomuser> zoglesby, in about:config or in the file itself
20:33:34 <randomuser> Capesteve, you can choose what to see still by setting whatever homepage you like
20:33:48 <zoglesby> once you use use the config, what is actually in about:config
20:34:07 <randomuser> hrm.. let me get a clean profile
20:37:05 <randomuser> I see "data/text:plain,browser.startup.homepage=http://fwp.mt.gov/"
20:38:40 <randomuser> and when I change it to about:newtab it's crap, hmm
20:44:31 <zoglesby> fun!
20:49:21 <randomuser> just about:newtab works though; there's something with the dance between default prefs and user set prefs in play there
20:50:13 <zoglesby> it seems to me that browser.startup.homepage is looking for a URL and about:newtab breaks that
20:51:06 <zoglesby> not that I know anything
20:51:53 <randomuser> well, I changed it back to the original value, and I still get the plaintext crap
20:52:32 <randomuser> which suggests to me there's interpretation going on when pulling from the global prefs that doesn't happen for the user prefs
21:25:24 <randomuser> Sparks, GRINCH!
21:58:10 <fedmsg-docs> 13trac.git.receive -- stephenw pushed some commits to the 'docs/networking-guide' fedorahosted git repository 10http://da.gd/DUsWT
22:00:34 <randomuser> #endmeeting