19:08:26 #startmeeting Fedora Docs Office Hours 19:08:26 Meeting started Thu Feb 19 19:08:26 2015 UTC. The chair is randomuser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:08:26 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:13:11 randomuser - question on the update to the virtualization guide if you're here 19:13:22 smccann, sure, I'm here 19:13:39 i followed these directions from the wiki https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_virtualization and they worked great 19:13:51 should I just port them to docbook and add screencaps here and there? 19:14:09 not sure what the relationship between the wiki and the official guides is 19:15:08 smccann, there's rarely a formal or predictable relationship, but that wiki page looks like a solid resource to build from 19:15:34 ok thanks. and the guidelines last week were to branch the guide and make changes, yes? 19:15:53 yes, I think it is best to work in a branch 19:16:05 ok will do. thanks 19:16:22 How are you with git? Can I help you get started? 19:17:16 I can clone and build a book. :-) I haven't looked yet on how to branch but I figure google is my friend. 19:17:36 i'll pop in here if I get stuck. Are there any good editors for docbook or is emacs the way to go? 19:18:30 emacs works nicely, as does vim 19:19:03 jhradilek has some addons for both to help with docbook; I use the vim stuff and can help you with that if you like 19:19:39 I haven't set up the emacs stuff, so he could help there if emacs is your tool of choice 19:19:54 emacs I know (sorta) vim for some reason just fried my brain and I had to search every time to find out how to close the dang editor :-P 19:19:57 smccann: Good thing is that my snippets are pretty much the same in Emacs, Vim, and Gedit. 19:20:08 :-) emacs it is then! 19:20:19 https://github.com/jhradilek/emacs-docbook-snippets 19:20:26 gracias! 19:21:59 The idea is that you just type the name of an XML element, press tab and it automatically completes it, indents it, prefills commonly used attributes, etc. It makes writing in XML much more comfortable in my opinion. 19:22:35 sounds good. 19:23:33 smccann, before you get too far along, please log in to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts and work through the account setup checklist 19:24:10 you at least need to do the CLA thing, so we're clear on redistributing your work 19:24:37 I think i'm in those already. I've been doing QA testing here and there for a few months. smccann2 I think is my account cuz smccann was taken 19:24:51 ahhh 19:24:52 okay 19:25:03 .fasinfo smccann2 19:25:05 randomuser: User "smccann2" doesn't exist 19:25:10 .fasinfo smccann 19:25:16 randomuser: User: smccann, Name: Shawn McCann, email: mccann0011@hotmail.com, Creation: 2005-05-30, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: C41550CC, Status: inactive 19:25:19 randomuser: Approved Groups: fedorabugs cla_fedora 19:25:24 yeah that one's not me :-) 19:25:31 lemme find my real fedora username... 19:25:35 .fasinfo scmccann 19:25:36 randomuser: User: scmccann, Name: Sandra McCann, email: scmccann@gmail.com, Creation: 2014-11-03, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 19:25:42 randomuser: Approved Groups: None 19:26:17 I think it's that one ? 19:26:20 ah sorry - mccann2 is my fedora account 19:26:37 .fasinfo mccann2 19:26:38 randomuser: User: mccann2, Name: Sandra McCann, email: scmccann2000@gmail.com, Creation: 2014-11-03, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 19:26:41 randomuser: Approved Groups: qa fedorabugs cla_fpca cla_done 19:26:53 huh... so I'm there twice...hmm. 19:27:03 must have brainfarted on the account creation. 19:27:05 nice, that one's 2000 better than the first 19:27:43 yeah that's the one I've been using. 19:27:45 I vaguely recall some issues with FAS infrastructure around that time 19:28:01 I, on the other hand, have no excuse for my redundant FAS account. 19:28:06 I should try and delete the first one. realistically I probably just forgot to write the name down and had to recreate 19:28:28 You can't delete it, but you can set it to not active 19:28:31 .fasinfo randomuser 19:28:32 randomuser: User: randomuser, Name: None, email: duplicateoffasuser-immanetize@petetravis.com, Creation: 2010-03-18, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 19:28:35 randomuser: Approved Groups: cla_fedora 19:28:54 ...like I thought I did with this one 19:29:32 heh 19:30:36 oh now I know why I can't go fix that first one - it's the wrong email address! that was what I fatfingered 19:31:12 You can borrow a pair of my patent pending typing mittens, if you like 19:31:22 heh 19:31:25 * randomuser uses the typing mittens when his elbows get sore 19:34:48 smccann, seriously though, if you know that account is yours, can't log in, and want some action taken, mail admin@fedoraproject.org 19:35:05 in the meantime, I'll sponsor your real account into the docs group 19:35:06 ok thanks 19:37:25 .fasinfo mccann2 19:37:26 randomuser: User: mccann2, Name: Sandra McCann, email: scmccann2000@gmail.com, Creation: 2014-11-03, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 19:37:29 randomuser: Approved Groups: docs qa fedorabugs cla_fpca cla_done 19:37:38 that's better :) 19:38:13 :-) thanks 19:38:51 welcome, officially, to the docs team! 19:39:30 ah.. immanetize == randomuser! I feel like I just earned my first secret decoder ring! 19:39:57 yup, that's me 19:40:30 .fasinfo immanetize 19:40:31 randomuser: User: immanetize, Name: Pete Travis, email: me@petetravis.com, Creation: 2011-10-17, IRC Nick: randomuser, Timezone: US/Mountain, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 2D31EC9E, Status: active 19:40:35 randomuser: Unapproved Groups: gitcreate-tx-configuration 19:40:37 randomuser: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_done fedorabugs packager gitpublican-fedora +sysadmin-docs sysadmin-hosted sysadmin-web @docs @docs-writers @docs-publishers sysadmin-ask +sysadmin @gitjenkinscat-docs 19:40:57 :-) 19:41:49 hrm.. I should probably re-retire create-tx-configuration 19:42:34 and RFE zanata to properly create zanata.xml configs with langmap 19:42:40 * randomuser goes to file a bug 19:49:15 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194439 19:53:08 jhradilek, any news on jenkinscat? 19:56:12 randomuser: Had other priorities, sorry. :( I wish I could delegate it, but I do have it on my TODO list. 19:59:25 jhradilek, no worries 19:59:57 I've been looking at buildbot in the meantime; more complex to start up, but it appears dramatically more extensible 20:00:21 at least for someone with my skillset; basic python, no java 20:04:34 randomuser: So you wanna start working on BuildCat? :) 20:05:37 jhradilek, I just might! The VM usage here has escalated recently; I need to add memory to the server soon 20:06:10 which probably just means taking it out of the workstation and putting it in the server 20:09:20 the idea I have at this point is including some metadata in each resource that will describe it's position in the site structure, description, etc 20:09:22 then invoke something similar to what threebean is using for whatcanidoforfedora.org to parse it and build the site 20:09:24 and tack it on to the end of the build jobs 20:42:37 * randomuser calls it an hour 20:42:44 #endmeeting