18:06:14 <randomuser> #startmeeting Fedora Docs Office Hours
18:06:14 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr  9 18:06:14 2015 UTC.  The chair is randomuser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:10:14 <randomuser> #topic Release Notes Sprint
18:10:55 <randomuser> that's not sprint as in agile, it's sprint as in "AAAAAHHHHH!"
18:17:03 <pbokoc> last time I checked (~2 hours ago) there were 9 unclaimed changes which aren't NEW
18:18:58 <randomuser> looks like beta is no-go this week
18:26:04 <randomuser> pbokoc, I've been working down the changeset wiki page and committing something about every one that doesn't already have your name by it, basically
18:30:15 <pbokoc> yeah, I use a BZ query, but it works out to be the same
18:32:30 <randomuser> what sounds better, care to share?
18:32:38 <randomuser> I'm still not good at bz queries
18:33:51 <randomuser> jreznik, what's going on with this "disabled repositories support" situation? Are there repos approved to use it?
18:34:34 <randomuser> I lost track after the decision was made that individual repos might be ok, if they are approved and self-contained
18:35:07 <jreznik> to be honest, I'm not sure - change, as technical implementation is there
18:35:13 <randomuser> then there was something about adding the playground repo as part of it, and having fesco/council approve the playground repo and envs and stacks would approve what goes into the playground repo
18:35:33 <randomuser> ...which seems like circumvention to me, but I'm probably missing something
18:36:32 <pbokoc> afaik, they're supported, but Fedora doesn't and won't actually ship any
18:36:36 <pbokoc> it's intended for remixers
18:36:52 <jreznik> when we were working on the playground repo last time, the functionality was added to Copr and it perfectly matches together
18:37:19 <randomuser> ah, yes, but the Workstation folks *want* to use it to give users the experience of Fedora providing third party software, pbokoc
18:38:15 <pbokoc> randomuser, anyway, here's the query: http://red.ht/1IOcNdu
18:38:54 <randomuser> thanks
18:39:01 <pbokoc> click "Change Columns" at the bottom, throw out whatever you don't need, and move "Docs Contact" to displayed; then you can easily tell if a change is claimed or not based on whether or not it has anyone set in that field
18:40:36 * randomuser throws out the assignee field
18:40:46 <pbokoc> haha yeah
18:41:49 <randomuser> ahhh and you're using the flag too
18:41:52 <randomuser> that's a good idea
18:42:56 <pbokoc> well actually it doesn't do us much good
18:43:12 <pbokoc> the flag would be way more useful if developers were using it to flag a bug for us to review
18:43:26 <pbokoc> like "hey, this is a user facing change, it might be good to have in relnotes"
18:43:51 <randomuser> I suppose we don't have to worry too much about the disabled repo thing; they will definitely do lots of blog posts, fedoramagazine articles, social media, and other ways of documenting things not related to fedora docs
18:44:08 <pbokoc> in an ideal world, they'd even provide some basic notes in Doc Text so we have something to start with... mmm
18:44:37 <randomuser> pbokoc, yeah, best use of the flag would be for that; for now, I like looking at the query and seeing which ones we have committed already
18:45:13 <pbokoc> randomuser, unfortunately that's not too useful. 5 of the bugs I set the flags on are only in the bug's Doc Text, they're not on wiki or in git
18:45:25 <randomuser> bah
18:45:36 <randomuser> I'll stick to reading the git logs then
18:45:40 <pbokoc> yeah
18:46:08 <pbokoc> well, I mean... you could just go through the beat pages on the wiki and move everything from there to git :)
18:46:20 <randomuser> ha
18:46:23 <pbokoc> I didn't write anything in there, so it's fine
18:47:03 <pbokoc> (actually I was thinking we should just drop the wiki... but I don't know if everyone has permissions to use the Doc Text field in BZ)
18:47:24 <randomuser> no, we want other people to use the wiki
18:47:27 <randomuser> some do, even
18:48:21 <randomuser> or, we want to have the wiki available for other people to use, I should say
18:49:00 <pbokoc> hmm, right
18:52:15 <jreznik> reminder - f22 beta readiness meeting in 10 minutes #fedora-meeting-2
18:55:33 * randomuser heads back to office to catch meeting
18:56:08 <grundblom> am I too late?
18:57:20 <pbokoc> grundblom, well, randomuser just ran off, apparently :))
18:58:07 <grundblom> Hi pbokoc, yeah its been one of those months, I have been missing the meetings, work/life stuff
19:00:17 <pbokoc> grundblom, no worries, it happens to all of us
19:04:22 <randomuser> grundblom, if you're still around, there can still be things happening here.  I was referring to the release readiness meeting in #fedora-meeting-2
19:08:46 <randomuser> pbokoc, Capesteve - we should come up with a plan for updating core guides, to be done between beta and final releases
19:08:54 <randomuser> after the RN commit panic is over
19:09:26 <grundblom> Registered Nurse panic?
19:13:18 <pbokoc> hm
19:13:29 <pbokoc> step 1: update core guides for f22
19:19:11 <randomuser> yes, we hire several nurses and herd them into a small room, then activate a strobe light and moving handwashing sink
19:19:31 <randomuser> they are compelled to wash their hands but panic when they can't find the sink
19:20:15 <pbokoc> :D
19:23:11 <grundblom> LOL
19:23:25 <grundblom> Sounds like my last couple of days
19:49:33 <randomuser> so grundblom, how is your writing going?
19:49:37 <randomuser> I just pulled, saw new things
20:04:40 * randomuser should probably close the meeting so kendell can wake up
20:56:49 <randomuser> #endmeeting