01:22:23 <tuanta> #startmeeting FAD APAC Singapore 2015
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01:33:56 <GIANT_CRAB> hello!
01:34:23 <jurank_dankkal> Hello
01:39:17 <pjp> <pjp> Introductions - Sirko(gnokii) from Germany, has been contributor to Fedora over 5 yrs.
01:39:25 <azneita> .fas gnokii
01:39:25 <zodbot> azneita: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
01:39:32 <azneita> .fas pjp
01:39:34 <zodbot> azneita: pjp '' <pj.pandit@yahoo.co.in> - pjpedro 'PJ Pedro' <pjpedro@rogers.com> - sandeepj 'sandeepj' <sandeepjp22@gmail.com>
01:40:21 <azneita> .fas callkalpa
01:40:21 <zodbot> azneita: callkalpa 'Kalpa Welivitigoda' <callkalpa@gmail.com>
01:40:37 <pjp> Kalpa(callkalpa) from Sri Lanka,  has been with Fedora over 7 yrs, is a package maintainer & Fedora Ambassador.
01:40:54 <pjp> Yogi from Indonesia, Fedora ambassador
01:41:14 <azneita> .fas woohuiren
01:41:14 <zodbot> azneita: woohuiren 'Woo Huiren' <giantcrabby@gmail.com>
01:41:50 <pjp> Huiren(woohuiren) from Singapore, Fedora Ambassador
01:42:18 <pjp> Somvandda from Ph, joined Fedora in 2014 is an Ambassador
01:42:55 <somvannda> .fas somvannda
01:42:56 <zodbot> somvannda: somvannda 'Kong Somvannda' <somvannda@gmail.com>
01:43:16 <jurank_dankkal> .fas jurank_dankkal
01:43:17 <zodbot> jurank_dankkal: jurankdankkal 'Prima Yogi Loviniltra' <loviniltra@gmail.com>
01:43:31 <pjp> Izhar(izhar), Fedora Ambassador from 20107, is a financier, works also with Python & Plone communities
01:43:39 <zsun> .fas zsun
01:43:40 <zodbot> zsun: zsun 'Ziqian SUN (Zamir)' <sztsian@gmail.com>
01:43:42 <zsun> Zamir from China, fas zsun, online and offline events, joined Fedora in 2013,
01:44:24 <pjp> Zimer(zsun) from China, Fedora ambassador, has been promoting Fedora & free softare
01:44:32 <Orca-Krilozona> .fas orcakrilozona
01:44:32 <zodbot> Orca-Krilozona: orcakrilozona 'Yan Naing Myint' <krylonarizona@cyberwings.asia>
01:44:57 <pjp> Orca-Krilozona(orcakrilozona), Fedora Ambassador
01:45:14 <azneita> .fas Michaelbalcos
01:45:14 <zodbot> azneita: michaelbalcos 'Michael Javier Balcos' <michael.balcos@gmail.com>
01:46:45 <pjp> Michael(michaelbalcos), Fedora ambassador in Singapore and Philippines
01:47:03 <pjp> Heherson(), Fedora ambassador and mentor from Singapore & Philippines
01:47:18 <pjp> .fas tuanta
01:47:18 <zodbot> pjp: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
01:47:38 <pjp> Truong(tuan), Fedora ambassador from Vietnam,
01:48:18 <pjp> Truong is also a Fedora administrator
01:48:36 <azneita> .fas magie
01:48:37 <zodbot> azneita: geatz87 'Bogusław Magiera' <geatz87@tlen.pl> - magie 'Magie Antonio' <magie@bluepoint.com.ph> - magi 'Rafal Magiera' <R.K.Magiera@wsisiz.edu.pl>
01:49:14 <pjp> Magie Antonio(magie) from Philippines, works for a non-profit, teaching Linux with Fedora
01:49:32 <pjp> .fas .engels
01:49:32 <zodbot> pjp: '.engels' Not Found!
01:49:35 <pjp> .fas engels
01:49:35 <zodbot> pjp: engels 'Engels Antonio' <engels@bluepoint.com.ph>
01:49:58 <pjp> Engels(engels) works for Bluepoint non-profit, teaches Linus with Fedora
01:50:38 <pjp> Harish Pillay, has been with Free software over 30 yrs, works towards spreading Fedora across Singapore
01:54:22 <pjp> Discussion logs here -> http://piratepad.net/FAD-Sngapore-2015
02:34:39 <GIANT_CRAB> Can we call for a short 5 minutes break?
02:37:15 <pjp> F23 designs/artwork -> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/413
02:40:54 <harish> GIANT_CRAB, in a minute
02:51:31 <harish> #link https://hourofcode.com/ <perhaps we can use this as a way to encourage usage of Fedora for coding
02:52:58 <KageSenshi> reimbursement overall : https://izhar.fedorapeople.org/reimbursement_viz/
02:59:36 <nangthang> Hi everyone. I'm Thang from Vietnam, I'll attend FAD remotely. Is there a Etherpad for FAD now?
02:59:56 <harish> yes there is nangthang
03:02:47 <pjp> http://piratepad.net/FAD-Sngapore-2015
03:03:05 <nangthang> ok pjp
03:04:13 <KageSenshi> anybody with a phone tripod? .. we can stream to google hangout i think
03:06:41 <gnokii> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Materials?rd=FAD:PhnomPenh_2014/Materials
03:08:06 <pjp> -> https://izhar.fedorapeople.org/reimbursement_viz/
03:13:53 <harish> https://ethercalc.net/ can be a starting point.
03:34:53 <KageSenshi> harish, i ran out of gears
03:37:33 <GIANT_CRAB> Anyone else have Openshift gears?
03:44:16 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Budget.next
03:44:26 <KageSenshi> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Budget.next
03:56:19 <harish> KageSenshi, create a new account?
04:07:14 <pjp> -> http://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
04:09:06 <gnokii> https://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/talks/character_slide_en.svg
05:55:11 <KageSenshi> #idea fedora-mirror-box (local-mirror-in-a-box)
05:55:52 <KageSenshi> Ethercalc is operational: http://ethercalc-izhar.rhcloud.com/8rvisq2320
05:57:28 <pjp> KageSenshi: Cool!
06:10:07 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget:2016
06:15:24 <tuanta> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Budget.next
06:31:34 <azneita> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Singapore_2015/Events?rd=Ambassadors/APAC/Budget:2016-2017
06:33:04 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Singapore_2015/Events
06:42:49 <hanthana> azneita, harish do we have scheduled events in Singapore?
06:44:28 <harish> It is up to the Fedora SG group to schedule it. I will take the cue from the team.
06:51:42 <azneita> @hanthana, GIANT_CRAB is working on an event
06:53:45 <hanthana> awesome!
06:56:36 <GIANT_CRAB> Added an entry @hanthana cc @azneita
06:58:26 <tnzchok> KageSenshi: Looks Nice, similar to google spreadsheets
07:06:39 <pjp> gnokii: ->
07:06:40 <zsun> https://i-zsun.rhcloud.com/fedora-21-release-party-beijing-report/
07:06:49 <pjp> -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Singapore_2015/Events
07:07:40 <KageSenshi> careful with the ethercalc ... just remembered that data persistence is not there ..
07:08:40 <KageSenshi> openshift deletes things
07:08:53 <KageSenshi> on cartridge push
08:06:17 <hanthana> harish, azneita GIANT_CRAB lets try to make Fedora  and Fedora SG branding without FOSSASIA umbrella
08:06:56 <GIANT_CRAB> Sure
08:06:57 <hanthana> For example, ruby, ios, jsconf, DevOps they have their own events
08:07:17 <hanthana> would be nice if we can start smaller with a local university
08:08:01 <GIANT_CRAB> Yup
08:08:02 <azneita> that's the idea behind GIANT_CRAB's event
08:08:18 <GIANT_CRAB> A competition or perhaps a hackathon
08:08:36 <GIANT_CRAB> I'll be speaking to my lecturer on Monday to discuss about location and publicity within the polytechnic
08:09:01 <GIANT_CRAB> Since it is for an educational cause, it should be possible. No promises.
08:11:33 <hanthana> harish, can we add this in to Red Hat Challenge?
08:14:19 <GIANT_CRAB> What do you guys think of Slack? Or would it not make sense for us to have a Slack group?
08:19:08 <hanthana> callkalpa, ping
08:19:09 <zodbot> hanthana: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
08:19:34 <GIANT_CRAB> Other than that, what do you guys think of using meetup.com to promote Fedora meetups within your countries?
08:20:07 <GIANT_CRAB> And meetups held preferably at Red Hat offices?
08:21:57 <harish> http://www.barcampsaigon.org/ says that it happened Nov 29th
08:22:44 <hanthana> GIANT_CRAB, issue is not where we gonna host but how we gonna continue Fedora meetup in SG
08:23:18 <hanthana> there are several meetups around us including Docker, DevOPs, etc
08:24:09 <hanthana> somvannda, as Fedorians what should be our approach to have continuous meetup series instead of stop after just 1 or two attempts
08:26:37 <GIANT_CRAB> hanthana, having a Fedora meetup group created and meetup event posted on meetup.com will sort of 'broadcast' it to people whom have expressed interest similar to Linux and DevOps. Of course, we can also attend meetups done by these communities and attempt to spread Fedora's influences through these meetups.
08:28:05 <zsun> GIANT_CRAB:  be aware of what we just talked, many guys just won't register on similar sites due to privacy issue
08:28:08 <hanthana> my previous reply is not to somvanda lol :D
08:29:07 <GIANT_CRAB> Hmmm
08:30:03 <GIANT_CRAB> We could start by fixing a certain date every month - eg first Thursday of the month, etc.
08:33:12 <hanthana> harish, GIANT_CRAB, azneita How about 'Fedora evening' a monthly meetup with Uni Students such as NUS, NTU, etc?
08:33:27 <GIANT_CRAB> But then, how would we be able to easily publicize that Fedora meetups exist in SG? Or are Fedora meetups strictly just for Ambassadors? Should it also involve users and give us opportunity to interact with them, perhaps "upgrade" them to Ambassadors?
08:33:51 <GIANT_CRAB> great idea as well hanthana
08:34:30 <hanthana> I would say 'Fedora Contributors' instead of 'Ambassadors'
08:34:32 <GIANT_CRAB> we can't just paste posters in universities, permissions, etc are required. We'll need to work on that.
08:34:47 <GIANT_CRAB> Yup yup
08:38:27 <harish> those are minor details, GIANT_CRAB. You might want to work with the Singapore Computer Society Student Chapters in the IHLs for this.
08:38:46 <harish> They can get the needed links to facilitate the publicity.
08:38:47 <GIANT_CRAB> Alright
08:42:52 <hanthana> GIANT_CRAB, dude, can you update Fedora SG  events on a separate wiki page?
08:43:20 <hanthana> for example, SFD should be mention in Fedora SG wiki :)
08:43:54 <hanthana> GIANT_CRAB, for example https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Singapore_Community#Events
08:44:02 <hanthana> better to have separate wiki page
08:44:10 <harish> http://barcamp.org/w/page/402984/FrontPage#Myanmar
08:44:27 <harish> seems to suggest Barcamp Yangoon in 2016 is Jan 30-31.
08:47:01 <hanthana> gnokii, since FOSSOGRAPHY is happening in Cambodia. I will host a local Fedora event for designs
08:47:19 <hanthana> callkalpa, ^
08:47:37 <hanthana> and it will be a handle on training
08:49:18 <hanthana> harish, azneita GIANT_CRAB I can invite LibreOffice guys if we can host a joint event with them in a local uni
08:49:33 <GIANT_CRAB> hanthana remove it from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Singapore_2015/Events and transfer it over?
08:49:39 <hanthana> which will give us more attention than FOSSASIA :)
08:49:48 <GIANT_CRAB> that would be nice
08:50:18 <hanthana> GIANT_CRAB, do not delete what you have added in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Singapore_2015/Events
08:50:22 <GIANT_CRAB> okay
08:50:47 <hanthana> but add Singapore specific events in our own event wiki page where we can see only SG events
08:51:22 <hanthana> for exaple, country specific SFD, DFD events won't mention in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Singapore_2015/Events
09:01:13 <GIANT_CRAB> Alright, noted!
09:09:17 <hanthana> Thanks sir
09:16:48 <tuanta> OpenDay - OSCD Vietnam: https://www.facebook.com/openday.vn/?fref=ts
09:24:39 <hanthana> guys, I am off to hospital
09:24:41 <hanthana> cya
09:24:57 <hanthana> enjoy the 1st day dinner :)
09:26:24 <GIANT_CRAB> Alright, see you, take care hanthana!
09:45:31 <KageSenshi> http://ethercalc-izhar.rhcloud.com/3ut3yxiso0
09:46:05 <KageSenshi> after adding considerations for upcoming events until march, our expected budget is 9.6k
09:46:16 <KageSenshi> for FY16
09:46:33 <KageSenshi> largest one is barcamp yangon
09:49:15 <GIANT_CRAB> Thanks
10:24:42 <tnzchok> Enjoy the FAD dinner guys :D
11:05:50 <banas> sorry folks, I've been helping with relief on Chennai floods. How's the FAD coming up? :)
11:08:18 <GIANT_CRAB> banas it's going great, we're finalising the budgeting stuff. Details can be found on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Singapore_2015/Events
11:08:53 <GIANT_CRAB> We have an etherpad here: http://piratepad.net/FAD-Sngapore-2015 and also EtherCalc here: http://ethercalc-izhar.rhcloud.com/3ut3yxiso0
11:10:46 <banas> GIANT_CRAB: thanks for the links, I can see an update that way :-)
11:14:17 <KageSenshi> http://ethercalc-izhar.rhcloud.com/62tau2cry9 .. ~14.5k
11:19:51 <KageSenshi> harish, http://ethercalc-izhar.rhcloud.com/62tau2cry9 .. ~14.5k
11:22:36 <harish> thanks
11:40:18 <tuanta> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Budget.next
11:57:38 <tuanta> #endmeeting