12:00:24 #startmeeting translations 12:00:24 Meeting started Tue Jul 4 12:00:24 2017 UTC. The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:00:24 The meeting name has been set to 'translations' 12:00:24 #meetingname translations 12:00:24 The meeting name has been set to 'translations' 12:00:29 #topic T-shirts for active contributors of Translation group (pravins, 12:00:53 #info our ticket on g11n pagure 12:00:57 #link #link https://pagure.io/g11n/issue/32 12:01:19 Budget is approved by council - as of now $750 12:01:25 #info Council ticket 12:01:30 #link #link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/69 12:01:41 Design is ready 12:01:45 #info design ticket 12:01:49 #link #link https://pagure.io/design/issue/525 12:01:54 #chair jibec jonatoni 12:01:54 Current chairs: jibec jonatoni pravins 12:02:57 Here? 12:03:19 hi aeng :) 12:03:22 #chair aeng 12:03:22 Current chairs: aeng jibec jonatoni pravins 12:04:06 hi zoltanh7211 :) 12:04:08 #chair zoltanh7211 12:04:08 Current chairs: aeng jibec jonatoni pravins zoltanh7211 12:04:37 Let me inform again point things again 12:04:45 So we have budget approved by council for T-shirts 12:04:52 We have design also ready. 12:05:13 aeng: already provided list of contributors completed 500+ words translation. 12:05:41 hi, ohio, namaskar to everyone 12:05:54 नमस्कार (namaskar) :) 12:06:14 salut Zoltan 12:06:28 yup salut mon ami 12:06:33 :) 12:06:59 🙏 emoji not appearing very well though 12:07:01 15pagure.issue.comment.added -- jibecfed commented on ticket g11n#32: "T-shirts for active contributors of Translation group" 10https://pagure.io/g11n/issue/32#comment-447295 12:07:08 International greetings..Lol 12:07:42 pravins: have you reached EOF ? ;) 12:08:01 yeah, here discussions start 12:08:09 only endmeeting remains ;) 12:08:24 ok, I think jonatoni started to collect adresses 12:08:32 #topic number of tshirts contributor 12:08:47 yes I have some of the addresses, but not all the people have responded to the email 12:09:02 no big deal, how many do we have yet? 12:09:08 Individually? 12:09:24 let mecheck 12:09:26 https://ethercalc.org/re6i17qrlwyx 12:10:23 Wow, impressive 12:10:40 first issue: I see number 67-83 are package maintainers, they do not belong to any language group. 12:10:44 pravins: you should elaborate, what do you expect from this (great) ethercalc shet ? ;) 12:11:06 around 40 12:11:20 (and please do not write personnal address in that public file ;)) 12:11:38 jibec: good point !! 12:12:03 jonatoni: lets first resolve issue of how many T-shirts we have to print. 12:12:32 83 from the list? 12:13:52 aeng: yes, but from no 67-83 are package maintainers 12:14:05 so their stats is just from pull-push to Zanata. 12:14:17 Yup yup 12:14:21 i think, they do not deserve T-shirt for 500 words translations 12:14:26 how other thinks? 12:14:32 #chair 12:14:32 Current chairs: aeng jibec jonatoni pravins zoltanh7211 12:15:17 +1 if it's only maintainer statistics, I agree it's not part of the t-shirt distribution 12:15:45 Seems reasonable 12:16:13 same here, me too thinks same. 12:16:17 +1 12:16:21 +1 12:16:25 so, it gives the new number of 65 t-shirt to print 12:16:29 in fact jonatoni got few emails from these members that, they dont want T-shirts 12:16:34 jibec: exactly. 12:16:45 but 12:16:46 for 750$ -> 11,5 $ per t-shirt is the maximum 12:16:53 I suggest something small thing 12:17:03 zoltanh7211: means? 12:17:18 I mean a thank you letter just for care in the community is always positive 12:17:23 Something small do them? 12:17:28 For them.. 12:18:34 aha, understood, may be we can have some badge for it. 👍 12:18:50 Good one! 12:18:58 pravins: we'll have a badge for translation contribution already 12:18:58 I mean that we don't want close them out, but mentioning them who packaging for us - or sending out real paper mails is with fedora logo on and some badge is would be useful 12:19:03 #idea badge for package maintainers pull-push in Zanata and taking care of translations. 12:19:32 Back to the t shirts 12:19:34 yes. 12:19:42 so, lets go ahead with 65 number? 12:19:54 zoltanh7211: i liked the idea, we will consider this in next round. 12:20:07 OK. What we need to decide today? 12:20:12 #topic number of T-shirts to print 12:20:25 aeng: most important distribution strategy, will take that next 12:20:34 So, we all agree for 65 T-shirts 12:20:46 65 it is. 12:21:10 yes 12:21:10 I feel, lets not make it complicated and execute our earlier plan. 12:21:20 maybe one or two more, we should offer one to FPL & FCAIC and ask them to wear it during flock ;) 12:21:21 Which is? 12:21:32 jibec: nice idea. 12:21:50 lets add there name. 12:22:11 (if it is compatible with the money, and if you're ok with this way to promote L10N) 12:22:36 added. 12:23:17 Ok, seems we are all ok with the number 12:23:23 So, its come to 67 now. 12:23:25 750÷67=11,2$ 12:23:57 lets bex take a call on buffer, i.e. extra T-shirt 12:24:17 #agreed Number of T-shirts 67 12:24:34 #topic Printing plan 12:25:01 out of 67 - more than 60% people are from EMEA, so we decided to print in BRNO 12:25:07 BRUNO 12:25:41 lets move to last and most important topic 12:25:41 Brno* 12:26:01 thanks jonatoni :) 12:26:08 #topic distribution plan 12:26:23 i am not sure about this, so please guide :) 12:26:25 #chair 12:26:25 Current chairs: aeng jibec jonatoni pravins zoltanh7211 12:26:53 we need to coordinate with bex about this 12:27:02 he has more experience and can help us 12:27:08 to create a plan 12:27:10 agree 12:28:00 jonatoni: do you think, we cna handover it to language coordinator, if possible? 12:28:23 so like for French - jibec can collect for his team members 12:28:42 jonatoni: you can collect for Albanian team 12:29:04 zoltanh7211: can collect T-shirts for Hungarian team 12:29:17 yep that would help us a lot 12:29:25 and reduce the costs 12:29:42 theoretically yes, but two of the french team are in another part of the world :p 12:30:06 ohh, then we can directly ship them from Brno office 12:30:39 jonatoni: who can help for Portuguese (Brazil) team distribution? 12:30:46 how about German team? 12:30:56 I have a suggestion 12:31:17 yep 12:31:49 we should ask bex to check which people are registered for Flock. And handle this list separatly, I'm sure to go there, I can handle this. 12:32:23 jibec: not understood clearly :( 12:32:30 If the printing can be done by flock , We should try to get them to distribute it there 12:32:53 bexelbie: mentioned, bringing T-shirt to flock will be costly. 12:32:55 Or get whoever in flock to help distribute back to their countey 12:33:03 Country 12:33:37 Well.. back to square one 12:33:59 pravins: we should see how many are going to flock, maybe we should print in the US 12:34:12 jibec: nope, US printing is further costly. 12:34:39 but before printing, we need T-shirt sizes 12:34:40 yep, agree with pravins 12:34:52 i think, while communicating for sizes, we can get more idea for distribution as well. 12:34:57 Ya sizes... 12:35:01 lets divide task for communication? 12:35:25 pravins: yep, let's add a column in your file 12:35:26 so at present, if you see handover column, can these members collect sizes from members? 12:35:32 jibec: +1 12:36:12 pravin: I suggest one shoot path: only store at Brno, and when events are coming or we meet again - we can handle them 12:36:19 jibec: perfect 12:36:47 zoltanh7211: yes, that is plan as of now, we will print in brno and then distribute as per plan. 12:37:02 pravins: okay 12:37:23 aeng: please add your name in front of BNE folks :) 12:37:53 long meeting :( 12:38:00 zoltanh7211: do you know Czech people? 12:38:17 jibec: who do you think of? 12:38:34 mareksu 12:38:37 peartown 12:38:37 jibec: i think jonatoni can help here, she had been to Czech multiple times :) 12:38:38 zdenek 12:38:46 pravins: ok, good 12:39:09 I took a big part of western europe 12:39:11 yep I know a lot of people from Red Hat offices in Brno 12:39:13 jibec: most of them are in around Brno, but yes many HU guys are also work for RH Brno 12:39:27 jonatoni: i hope, you are here https://ethercalc.org/re6i17qrlwyx 12:39:36 yes 12:40:34 jibec: can you provide reference for T-shirt sizes, so all can provide same email to all. 12:40:50 forward email to me as well :) 12:41:08 or jonatoni should we get this listed from eischmann, i.e. from vendor? 12:41:13 Pravins, I can collect from Noriko, myself and tchuang 12:41:20 aeng: sure. 12:41:52 zoltanh7211: can you get sizes for gyeben, meskobalazs ? 12:41:57 pravins: it depends on the tshirt shop, but it basically is from S to XL, slimfit/regular 12:41:57 pravins what do we need from the vendor? 12:42:28 T-shirt sizes and dimensions 12:42:34 jibec: it varies from country to country 12:42:47 from S to XXXL were the ones for Fedora proud user, but yeah I can ask Jiri about this 12:43:17 jonatoni: yeah, please provide that reference to all of us, so we can use that while getting exact sizes from members. 12:43:35 S in India, China and US varies :) 12:43:36 okay, sure 12:43:43 pravins: yes, I get the sizes 12:43:53 zoltanh7211: great thanks., 12:44:05 i think bexelbie will also guide us here. 12:44:11 yes 12:44:11 one moment - if they are online - I do it now 12:44:34 #action All people will collect T-shirts sizes from allotted numbers 12:44:44 in the meanwhile, there is still a lot of empty cells in "Contributor responsible for collecting sizes" 12:45:11 I can help with this, I can send them again an email to collect the sizes 12:45:14 jibec: yeah, jonatoni can you take care of it? 12:45:20 jonatoni: great, thanks :) 12:45:35 Guys, gtg now. I will catch up in the spreadsheet and email 12:46:11 aeng: sure, thanks 12:47:14 so, now action items 12:47:26 1. jonatoni will get T-shirt size and reference from Jiri 12:47:46 2. pravins jibec zoltanh7211 aeng jonatoni will use that email while communicating with contributors 12:48:04 3. once, all list ready, we can start talking with bex for printing 12:48:07 looks good? 12:48:09 #chair 12:48:09 Current chairs: aeng jibec jonatoni pravins zoltanh7211 12:49:01 zoltanh7211 said something about getting sizes, I am not sure it he look for T-shirt size or jonatoni 12:49:26 jibec: added to the spreadsheet 12:49:36 in ethercalc 12:49:44 all three missing sizes 12:50:24 ok 12:50:45 pravins: your action item is correct ;) 12:51:07 jibec: anything else? 12:51:09 zoltanh7211: very quick :) 12:51:17 zoltanh7211: nope, it's perfect 12:51:25 yup they were online 12:51:30 then, lets stop here and meet again next week? 12:51:37 same time, tue? 12:51:42 +1 12:51:51 +1 12:51:57 nice. 12:52:12 jonatoni: ? 12:52:15 +1 12:52:15 please get t-shirt sizes as soon as possible ;) 12:52:55 jibec: yeah, jonatoni all depends upon you now ;) 12:53:02 ok, lets stop here then? 12:53:22 will do my best :P 12:53:31 :) 12:53:37 jonatoni: you're gonna do well! 12:53:46 i am stopping here. 12:53:47 #endmeeting