17:00:19 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting Fedora Join - 2018-11-27
17:00:19 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Nov 27 17:00:19 2018 UTC.
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17:00:25 <bt0> :)
17:00:27 <FranciscoD> #meetingname fedora-join
17:00:27 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-join'
17:00:50 <FranciscoD> #chair bt0 dhanesh95 dhanesh95|m hhlp x3mboy hellbanger[m]
17:00:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 dhanesh95 dhanesh95|m hellbanger[m] hhlp x3mboy
17:01:07 <FranciscoD> Did I miss anyone?
17:01:14 <tg-fedjoin> <andifedge> Hey :)
17:01:46 <bt0> o/
17:01:49 <FranciscoD> sorry @andifedge: can't give you chair etc over the telegram bridge :/
17:01:57 <FranciscoD> #info Meeting guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Guide
17:02:04 <FranciscoD> #info Today's meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Join/Next_Meeting
17:02:09 <FranciscoD> #topic Roll call
17:02:42 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD : ankursinha, GMT: Packager + NeuroFedora, Join, Classroom, and other things here and there :)
17:02:44 <hhlp> o/
17:02:54 <hellbanger[m]> .fas hellbangerkarna
17:02:55 <zodbot> hellbanger[m]: hellbangerkarna '' <akarshan.biswas@hotmail.com>
17:03:01 <hhlp> .fas hhlp
17:03:01 <zodbot> hhlp: hhlp 'Héctor H. Louzao P.' <louzaoh@gmail.com>
17:03:35 <bt0> #info Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez;UTC-6; CommOps, Marketing, fedora-join, dotnet, ambassadors and more
17:03:44 <bt0> .fas bt0dotninja
17:03:45 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
17:04:37 <hellbanger[m]> #info Akarshan Biswas : hellbangerkarna, GMT:+5:30 Packager + debugging, l10n etc.
17:04:41 <FranciscoD> Let's wait for a few minutes for others that may want to join
17:04:43 <andi89gi> ah so I hope now it works
17:04:48 <FranciscoD> #chair andi89gi
17:04:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD andi89gi bt0 dhanesh95 dhanesh95|m hellbanger[m] hhlp x3mboy
17:04:58 <FranciscoD> :D
17:05:04 <andi89gi> xD
17:05:10 <x3mboy> .hello2
17:05:11 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
17:05:23 <FranciscoD> #topic New member introductions
17:05:31 <x3mboy> .fasinfo x3mboy
17:05:32 <zodbot> x3mboy: User: x3mboy, Name: Eduard Lucena, email: eduardlucena@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-11-28, IRC Nick: x3mboy, Timezone: America/Santiago, Locale: en, GPG key ID: DCDC2FFE, Status: active
17:05:35 <zodbot> x3mboy: Approved Groups: hosted-content @fedora-join @fedora-cl fedorabugs docs fedora-socialmedia mindshare @marketing fi-apprentice commops diversity-team magazine ambassadors cla_fpca cla_done
17:05:44 <FranciscoD> #info Folks attending the meeting for the first time can use this to introduce themselves to the community
17:05:47 <FranciscoD> let's wait for a bit
17:05:55 <bt0> ok
17:06:01 <hellbanger[m]> .hello2
17:06:02 <zodbot> hellbanger[m]: Sorry, but you don't exist
17:06:46 <hellbanger[m]> Wow. I didn't exist 😞
17:06:56 <tg-fedjoin> <alciregi> Hello, lurking from telegram
17:07:05 <FranciscoD> [m] suffix is the issue hellbanger[m]
17:07:10 <FranciscoD> I'd think
17:07:25 <FranciscoD> hello @alciregi!
17:07:31 <FranciscoD> Moving on
17:07:38 <FranciscoD> #topic Community announcements
17:07:50 <hellbanger[m]> Oh. okay,
17:07:56 <FranciscoD> #info Reminder F27 goes EOL on 30/11/2018: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/KQXR7DK5XKIENGGFS7QBMDI3FFFTFOZD/
17:08:10 <FranciscoD> #info Bugzilla outage on 2/12/18: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/6W34CJNEEESVSVGVYYDDF5HQ4VAAP6Y6/
17:08:25 <FranciscoD> #info Proposal: GnuPG2 as default: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/2GTDFNGMUWX7WZ4ECNY4E4CGEZ7PQDBP/
17:08:42 <FranciscoD> #info Report from GSoC mentor summit: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/gsoc-mentor-summit-2018/
17:09:01 <FranciscoD> #info Reminder: nomination period for elections is open: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/T3H4CCZWRL7FU2NNTIZDMIZX6HGI7SSY/
17:09:31 <FranciscoD> #info election nominations post on commblog: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-nominations-now-open/
17:09:54 <FranciscoD> #info 5 FESCo seats, 1 Council seat, 1 Mindshare seat are open
17:10:12 * FranciscoD waits for fedoramagazine to load
17:10:25 <FranciscoD> Anyone else got any announcements in the meantime? :)
17:10:46 <dhanesh95> .hello dhanesh95
17:10:47 <zodbot> dhanesh95: dhanesh95 'Dhanesh Bhalchandra Sabane' <dhanesh95@disroot.org>
17:11:19 <FranciscoD> meh, magazine won't load for me. Probably the uni VPN at fault
17:11:30 <FranciscoD> Any more announcements, or do we proceed to next topic?
17:11:59 <x3mboy> Next
17:12:21 <FranciscoD> #topic Ask Fedora migration status update
17:12:55 <FranciscoD> Doing this quickly today: I e-mailed mattdm and cc'd a few of you to the e-mail. We're waiting for his response before taking further steps.
17:13:11 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD e-mailed mattdm and cc'd a few of the join sig folks to the e-mail. We're waiting for his response before taking further steps.
17:13:49 <bt0> cool
17:13:54 <RNM> .hello2
17:13:55 <zodbot> RNM: Sorry, but you don't exist
17:13:57 <FranciscoD> #info For more information on Ask Fedora migration, please see last meetings logs: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-join/2018-11-20/fedora-join.2018-11-20-17.01.html
17:14:17 <andi89gi> Nice
17:14:53 <FranciscoD_> How does one ghost a nick again?
17:15:03 * FranciscoD_ got disconnected and now has a different nick
17:15:08 <FranciscoD_> oh, nickserv, not chanserve
17:15:21 <FranciscoD> tada
17:15:25 <x3mboy> Msg nickserb ghost nick password
17:15:25 <FranciscoD> #chair RNM
17:15:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD RNM andi89gi bt0 dhanesh95 dhanesh95|m hellbanger[m] hhlp x3mboy
17:15:26 <bt0> :)
17:15:32 <x3mboy> Nickserv*
17:15:46 <FranciscoD> #topic Action items from last meeting
17:15:59 <FranciscoD> #info Last meeting minutes are at: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-join/2018-11-20/fedora-join.2018-11-20-17.01.html
17:16:54 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD hhlp ask mattdm if we're moving or migrating: DONE
17:17:03 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD hhlp ask mattdm if we're using the current instance or a new one: DONE
17:17:11 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD hhlp ask mattdm if we can enable non FAS logins if we have another instance: DONE
17:17:21 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD add "Ask Fedora migration discussion" to next_meeting page: DONE
17:17:31 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD bt0 ask around community for an IRC 101 instructor: PENDING
17:17:41 <FranciscoD> we're still looking for an instructor for the IRC 101 session
17:17:53 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD bt0 ask around community for an IRC 101 instructor
17:18:00 <RNM> We are moving or migrate?
17:18:13 <FranciscoD> RNM: not sure yet, waiting to hear from mattdm
17:18:14 * hhlp not desicion yet
17:18:29 <RNM> ok noted
17:18:32 <FranciscoD> #info bt0 write fedora magazine classroom templates https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/100
17:18:49 <FranciscoD> bt0: WIP? You write the magazine post for the other session already, no?
17:18:57 <bt0> ohh, yeah
17:19:06 <bt0> i did
17:19:26 <FranciscoD> so I guess the template is also 85% done then :D
17:19:35 <FranciscoD> just a copy-paste-cleanup needed
17:19:38 <bt0> yeah
17:19:53 <FranciscoD> awesome
17:20:05 <FranciscoD> #info bt0 write fedora magazine classroom templates https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/100: 85% DONE
17:20:22 <FranciscoD> #info bt0 took the job off FranciscoD 's hands last week :)
17:20:25 <FranciscoD> .thank bt0
17:20:25 <zodbot> FranciscoD thinks bt0 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to bt0++ also)
17:20:29 <bt0> :)
17:20:49 <FranciscoD> #info x3mboy comment on ticket with link about fedmsg on discourse instance
17:21:01 <FranciscoD> I forget exactly what this is about
17:21:03 <x3mboy> In progress
17:21:04 * FranciscoD checks logs
17:21:27 <x3mboy> It wad about something alredy done/discussed about it
17:21:34 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: was this about getting fedmsg working with discourse?
17:21:47 <x3mboy> About fedmsg integration with discourse
17:21:51 <x3mboy> Yes...
17:21:53 <FranciscoD> OK
17:21:59 <FranciscoD> #info x3mboy comment on ticket with link about fedmsg on discourse instance: WIP
17:22:07 <FranciscoD> #action x3mboy comment on ticket with link about fedmsg on discourse instance
17:22:28 <FranciscoD> That's most of the tasks from last week. The usual remain:
17:22:32 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD update next_meeting page: DONE
17:22:36 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD update next_meeting page
17:22:40 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD send out logs
17:22:45 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD send out logs
17:23:08 <FranciscoD> #topic Pagure tickets
17:23:18 <FranciscoD> #info Tickets marked for discussion at this week's meeting: https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next-meeting
17:23:28 <FranciscoD> Please skip the ask-fedora tickets for the moment.
17:24:01 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/94: Fedora 29 semester classroom tracker
17:24:15 <FranciscoD> #info Current schedule: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom/F29
17:24:47 <FranciscoD> I blocked out 20/12--03/01 for the holiday period by the way
17:25:34 <x3mboy> Good
17:26:09 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/64: Containers 101 + podman: we have everything we need (date, bluejeans link, magazine post draft)
17:26:17 <andi89gi> ah okay nice. I am not on holiday in the Christmas vacation
17:26:20 <FranciscoD> because bt0 was managing it XD
17:26:43 <FranciscoD> andi89gi: I wont be off for all of it either :/
17:27:01 <bt0> :)
17:27:18 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/78: silverblue: we have an instructor and we've proposed a date
17:27:19 <andi89gi> FranciscoD: oh :/
17:28:03 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/80: L10N 101: we have an instructor and date. FranciscoD will get bluejeans link and draft magazine post
17:28:17 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD get bluejeans link and summary for magazine post for L10N 101 session
17:28:20 <bt0> \o/
17:28:36 <hellbanger[m]> FranciscoD:  Did we already proposed a date for silverblue classroom?
17:28:49 <andi89gi> FranciscoD: what’s up with silverblue?  Any new developments? I am not updated  about it. :/
17:28:54 <FranciscoD> hellbanger[m]: i did this morning
17:29:01 <FranciscoD> andi89gi: the session or silverblue in general?
17:29:02 <hellbanger[m]> Great!
17:29:28 <FranciscoD> hellbanger[m]: i proposed a week or two after devconf.cz---that should be convenient for miabbott
17:29:36 <FranciscoD> waiting for confirmation, though
17:29:58 <andi89gi> The session - I follow the development of silverblue. But I am not sure what benefits I get
17:30:07 <andi89gi> If using silverblue
17:30:23 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/81: Fedora badges 101 session: We have an instructor (riecatnor), and I've proposed a date: https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/657
17:30:45 <FranciscoD> andi89gi: we have an instructor, so we should have a session.
17:31:23 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/97: selinux: we have an instructor (lvrabec), and a tentative date
17:31:41 <andi89gi> FranciscoD: ah ok - a classroom session right? Sry for asking such questions
17:32:10 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/69: LaTeX 101: we have an instructor (FranciscoD), and we'll take whatever date is available after the other instructors have chosen
17:32:23 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD get magazine draft ready for LaTeX 101 session
17:32:49 <FranciscoD> andi89gi: yeh, we don't know the content of the session yet, but I expect it will be introductory
17:33:15 <andi89gi> FranciscoD: ok good ;)  thx
17:33:19 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/77: VIM 102: we have an instructor (x3mboy)
17:33:36 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: are you OK with taking a slot that is empty after the other instructors have taken their pick too?
17:34:42 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: otherwise you should pick an available slot now ;)
17:35:35 <bt0> jeje
17:36:18 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/120: Buildah 101: we have an instructor (dwalsh), we need a date and magazine post
17:36:40 <FranciscoD> @alciregi: would you please manage this session?
17:36:51 <FranciscoD> the first step would be to speak to dan and get a date from the available slots
17:37:30 <tg-fedjoin> <alciregi> Yes
17:37:36 <FranciscoD> since the Containers 101 session is in december as the first session, dwalsh can take this one anytime they want :)
17:38:17 <tg-fedjoin> <alciregi> Btw dan is not available to run the classroom
17:38:30 <fm-join> pagure.issue.new -- ankursinha opened a new ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#129: "Buildah 101 session requires a date" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/129
17:38:53 <tg-fedjoin> <alciregi> He asked to some other people and they seem interested
17:38:55 <fm-join> pagure.issue.new -- ankursinha opened a new ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#130: "Buildah 101 session needs a magazine post" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/130
17:39:07 <fm-join> pagure.issue.assigned.added -- ankursinha assigned ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#120 to alciregi https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/120
17:39:08 <fm-join> pagure.issue.dependency.added -- ankursinha added ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#129 as a dependency of ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#120 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/129
17:39:09 <fm-join> pagure.issue.dependency.added -- ankursinha added ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#130 as a dependency of ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#120 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/130
17:39:12 <x3mboy> I'm ok with any time we have
17:39:43 <FranciscoD> @alciregi: ah, not even for buildah? Has he suggested someone else?
17:39:46 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: awesome
17:39:51 <FranciscoD> I'll note that on the schedule
17:40:36 <tg-fedjoin> <alciregi> Yeah I will contact them asking if someone is available and want to pick a date
17:40:40 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: can you think of what you'll cover and begin working on the magazine post draft too? In case we have to do them in january?
17:40:48 <FranciscoD> @alciregi: that'll be brilliant. Thanks
17:41:39 <fm-join> pagure.issue.tag.added -- ankursinha tagged ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#120: S: Needs instructor https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/120
17:41:40 <fm-join> pagure.issue.edit -- ankursinha edited the milestone fields of ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#120 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/120
17:41:41 <fm-join> pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#120: "Possible Classroom: Buildah 101" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/120#comment-543080
17:42:27 <FranciscoD> In general, we're doing OK. Please get the magazine post drafts started ASAP so that we can have them ready, reviewed by the editorial borad, and scheduled for publishing
17:42:38 <FranciscoD> the sooner, the better: things get hung around the holiday period
17:43:12 <FranciscoD> #action alciregi bt0 x3mboy hellbanger[m] FranciscoD : confirm dates with various instructors and request drafts for magazine posts ASAP
17:43:23 <FranciscoD> I think that's all the sessions
17:43:58 <FranciscoD> All the other tickets are Ask Fedora related. I reckon I should untag them as "next-meeting" for the time being, no?
17:44:22 <hhlp> yep
17:44:23 <andi89gi> Yeap
17:44:39 <bt0> +1
17:45:01 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD tag ask-fedora tickts as "future-meeting" and "on-hold"
17:45:19 <FranciscoD> hhlp: how long do we wait for mattdm to reply before pinging them again? A week?
17:45:33 <hhlp> sure prudent time
17:45:34 <tg-fedjoin> <alciregi> FranciscoD I though I wrote a note in the ticket, sorry
17:45:55 <hhlp> a week is OK
17:45:58 <FranciscoD> @alciregi: I may have missed it. Sorry. Loadsa tickets XD
17:46:07 <FranciscoD> #info we'll ping mattdm if we don't hear back in a week
17:46:29 <FranciscoD> is there any advantage in having the migration discussion on discourse?
17:46:42 <FranciscoD> it'll get input from more people, but that's both a good thing and a bad thing
17:47:20 <FranciscoD> given my experience with the commops thread on discourse, it's likely to turn into a discussion over the pros and cons of discourse/askbot rather than one about planning the move
17:47:36 <FranciscoD> er, when I say migration, I mean "switch"
17:47:43 <FranciscoD> migration or move, whichever
17:48:14 <hhlp> let's wait...
17:48:36 <FranciscoD> +1 for waiting
17:48:40 <FranciscoD> what do the others think?
17:48:47 <andi89gi> +1
17:48:49 <bt0> +1
17:48:51 <bt0> too
17:49:37 <FranciscoD> #agreed (+4/-0) let's wait on mattdm's reply before thinking of other ways to continue the discussion on switching from askbot to discourse
17:49:38 <hellbanger[m]> +1 here.
17:49:47 <FranciscoD> #unfo
17:49:49 <x3mboy> +1
17:49:49 <FranciscoD> #undo
17:49:49 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: AGREED by FranciscoD at 17:49:37 : (+4/-0) let's wait on mattdm's reply before thinking of other ways to continue the discussion on switching from askbot to discourse
17:49:54 <FranciscoD> #agreed (+6/-0) let's wait on mattdm's reply before thinking of other ways to continue the discussion on switching from askbot to discourse
17:50:00 <FranciscoD> :D
17:50:16 <x3mboy> Cool
17:50:21 <x3mboy> Sorry for me being partial
17:50:23 <FranciscoD> Right, that's tasks and tickets done. 10 minutes for openfloor?
17:50:30 <hellbanger[m]> Sorry I was writing in a ticket
17:50:34 <hellbanger[m]> *comment
17:50:34 <andi89gi> Yeah
17:50:36 <FranciscoD> hah, no worries :D
17:50:41 <FranciscoD> #topic Openfloor
17:51:01 <FranciscoD> #info we're getting better at our meetings!
17:51:02 <hellbanger[m]> How should we track users who attend classrooms?
17:51:11 <x3mboy> I will post my draft in the ticket
17:51:17 <FranciscoD> x3mboy++
17:51:17 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Karma for x3mboy changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:51:25 <x3mboy> Cool
17:51:30 <hellbanger[m]> especially on Bluejeans.
17:51:38 <FranciscoD> hellbanger[m]: that's easy for folks with an FAS, and I reckon those are who we care about at the moment for badges, no?
17:52:03 <FranciscoD> I can think of two ways:
17:52:18 <FranciscoD> 1. we have our usual short survey and ask them to provide their FAS usernames
17:52:22 <x3mboy> Do we have only one badge for instructors?
17:52:25 <FranciscoD> that way they do the survey too ;)
17:52:46 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: no, it's a series, but again, looks like we have to keep track of how many sessions they teach manually
17:52:48 <bt0> yes, only for instructors
17:53:10 <FranciscoD> hellbanger[m]: 2. we ask them to comment on a ticket (sort of similar to a survey anyway)
17:53:12 <hellbanger[m]> Do we need to have roll calls before each classroom session?
17:53:33 <FranciscoD> no, I dont think so. People join late etc,
17:53:49 <FranciscoD> and lots of people aren't fedora folks, so the roll call is useless for them
17:53:59 <FranciscoD> it'll also increase the length of the sessions---we dont want that
17:54:03 <x3mboy> And people who doesn't have FAS can attend too, so roll call is meaningless in that way
17:54:12 <x3mboy> Deja vu
17:54:16 <hellbanger[m]> Ah. Then we have to go for surveys!
17:54:38 <FranciscoD> bt0: https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/657#comment-541619 -> tanvi suggested we could have sessions for attendees too
17:55:01 <FranciscoD> I've not had the time to look into it, but could be done. The only problem is we have to do the badges manually, and that's not ideal
17:55:58 <FranciscoD> There's no way to automate this if bluejeans/jitsi are used
17:56:21 * FranciscoD doesn't see too much advantage of badges for attendees just yet
17:56:35 <FranciscoD> instructors are more important at the moment IMO: it's a tiny incentive to take more sessions
17:56:54 <FranciscoD> i'd rather we work on a t-shirt for instructors or something to encourage them more, than working on badges for attendees
17:57:05 <FranciscoD> if the topic is intersting, attendees will come
17:57:15 <bt0> true
17:57:31 <x3mboy> I have a comment
17:57:39 <x3mboy> Give me a minute please to sit and write
17:57:48 <FranciscoD> Sure :)
17:58:04 <tg-fedjoin> <alciregi> Do you know how many people usually attends a classroom? more or less
17:58:37 <FranciscoD> in recent sessions, easily more than 10
17:58:40 <x3mboy> Ok. With jitsi we have the chance to go live in YouTube, is that a feature we should/want to use?
17:59:15 <bt0> OMG
17:59:20 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: is that better than calling over jitsi? does it make the video/audio more stable?
17:59:28 <x3mboy> Because in that case, for my VIM session will be easier from me to go: YouTube Live+IRC, but withiut jitsi
17:59:43 <FranciscoD> and does it mean that the recording is immediately available after the session?
18:00:07 <x3mboy> FranciscoD, it's through jitsi, but live bridging yo YouTube
18:00:19 <bt0> maybe we can try in the vim session
18:00:25 <x3mboy> FranciscoD, no inmediatly but faster
18:00:26 <bt0> as a beta test
18:00:40 <x3mboy> Also, my idea it's to go without jitsi
18:00:52 <x3mboy> Because in my experience is a little unstable
18:01:04 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: if youtube live is more stable, then we can go for that directly
18:01:13 <x3mboy> But, I can go to YouTube live from OBS studio
18:01:33 <FranciscoD> and we can ask folks to join the irc channel for questions/comments -> that way we have text minutes and badges too
18:01:34 <x3mboy> And having the chat in IRC, or even in YouTube Live chat can be easier
18:01:39 <x3mboy> We can experiment with that
18:01:42 <FranciscoD> +1
18:01:48 <bt0> +1
18:01:51 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: would you file a ticket about this please?
18:01:56 <x3mboy> Sure
18:01:59 <x3mboy> Action me
18:02:04 <FranciscoD> maybe a few of us can get together for 15 minutes and beta test this
18:02:12 <fm-join> pagure.issue.comment.added -- hellbangerkarna commented on ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#127: "Badges for classroom attendees" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/127#comment-543086
18:02:14 <FranciscoD> #action x3mboy file ticket for using youtube live instead of jitsi etc
18:02:26 <bt0> sound better
18:02:32 <FranciscoD> OK. Let's close. We're 2 minutes over
18:02:38 <x3mboy> Some people dont like 2 aspects of that: OBS is open source but rely on ffpemg or however is called
18:02:44 <x3mboy> And 2. YouTube
18:02:47 <FranciscoD> If there's anythign else, please file a ticket and we'll discuss it next week
18:02:57 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: yes, but bluejeans isnt' open source either
18:03:00 <x3mboy> But I think is a great idea to explore that way
18:03:08 <fm-join> pagure.issue.comment.edited -- hellbangerkarna edited a comment on ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#127: "Badges for classroom attendees" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/127#comment-543086
18:03:19 <FranciscoD> we dont have too many options at the moment, so I don't think of that as a criteria personally
18:03:25 <andi89gi> yeah sounds good - x3mboy : I guess the combination of YouTube and irc live chat would work well. But we can test different ways which will be the “best”
18:03:46 <FranciscoD> x3mboy: can we use the fedora youtube account for these too then?
18:03:50 <x3mboy> Ok, my proposal is to do a test session inside join
18:04:00 <FranciscoD> (and not have to rely on people to give us bluejeans links and whatnot?)
18:04:01 <x3mboy> FranciscoD, I can :D ;)
18:04:11 <hellbanger[m]> x3mboy +1
18:04:16 <FranciscoD> if you can, that works :P
18:04:32 <FranciscoD> OK. Closing. We can continue speaking in the channel anyway
18:04:34 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting