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#fedora-meeting-1 Meeting
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Meeting started by quaid at 19:30:22 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2009-11-11/fedora-meeting-1.2009-11-11-19.30.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Better_GSoC_umbrella_org  (quaid,
  19:30:51)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_Coding_SIG   (quaid,
    19:39:42)
  * LINK:
    http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Saturday_Sessions_2009/Umbrella_Organizations
    (loupgaroublond, 19:41:54)

* Rough schedule for present to March 2010  (quaid, 19:45:58)
  * LINK:
    http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/217-StudentProject-keyword-in-Fedora-Bugzilla.html
    (quaid, 19:59:40)

* workflow and improving processes  (quaid, 20:01:39)
  * LINK: http://gregdek.livejournal.com/55670.html   (quaid, 20:02:58)
  * AGREED: special online location for students to interact that logs
    (e.g. MUD)  (quaid, 20:14:48)
  * AGREED: student sourced proposals have the highest chance of
    success.  (quaid, 20:37:38)
  * AGREED: mentors provide a defined problem statement, a proposed
    objective/deliverable. Task chunking and problem solving is up to
    the student.  (quaid, 20:38:10)
  * quaid: Summer Coding SIG focus includes overseeing GSoC while
    growing the mentoring practice of all involved organizations; this
    is good strategy and innovation growth.  (quaid, 20:59:47)
  * We need to start working on process of how we are going to attract
    and handle student proposals now, in advance of the Google schedule
    announcement; this work is useful regardless of ongoing GSoC
    participation.  (quaid, 21:01:09)
  * Attracting students from within the existing projects and upstream
    communities is a good method for successful projects with a bigger
    impact.  (quaid, 21:02:06)
  * AGREED: Require sub-project/mentor commitment early. Enable the pool
    of upstreams that can be accessed through
    jboss.org/fedoraproject.org rather viewing each as "From
    {Fedora,JBoss}"  (quaid, 21:04:27)
  * IDEA: put proposals in to a spreadsheet in Melange and invite all
    upstreams to participate in the proposal process more fairly.
    (quaid, 21:06:00)
  * IDEA: admins can be empowered to rank proposals, evaluate mentors,
    and potentially apply non-transparent decision processes for the
    betterment of the overall umbrella effort.  (quaid, 21:06:55)
  * IDEA: continue focusing on lowered barriers between projects post
    evaluation (e.g. shared blog planets, etc.)  (quaid, 21:07:38)
  * ACTION: quaid to produce a schedule from past experience & this
    meeting log  (quaid, 21:08:08)
  * ACTION: send summary of this discussion to mentors list  (quaid,
    21:08:18)
  * ACTION: quaid to suggest jira.jboss.org admins add a checkbox for
    student_project  (quaid, 21:08:47)
  * AGREED: on-list discussion of how we evaluate projects at a granular
    level -- process discussion amongst mentors  (quaid, 21:09:47)
  * AGREED: transparency and strong admins will prevent the potential
    "more @foo mentors can up-vote their favorites" concerns of previous
    years.  (quaid, 21:18:58)
  * AGREED: student integration needs to be upstream (in the actual
    coding project), mentors need to integrate downstream (Summer Coding
    SIG)  (quaid, 21:19:50)

Meeting ended at 23:04:05 UTC.




Action Items
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* quaid to produce a schedule from past experience & this meeting log
* send summary of this discussion to mentors list
* quaid to suggest jira.jboss.org admins add a checkbox for
  student_project




Action Items, by person
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* quaid
  * quaid to produce a schedule from past experience & this meeting log
  * quaid to suggest jira.jboss.org admins add a checkbox for
    student_project
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * send summary of this discussion to mentors list




People Present (lines said)
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* quaid (147)
* loupgaroublond (86)
* pilhuhn (44)
* sankarshan (32)
* abadger1999 (30)
* spevack (2)
* zodbot (2)




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