18:00:18 #startmeeting FAmSCo Meeting 2010-05-10 18:00:18 Meeting started Mon May 10 18:00:18 2010 UTC. The chair is kital. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:18 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:27 #topic Roll Call 18:00:29 susmit shannigrahi 18:00:32 Joerg Simon 18:00:40 Maria Leandro 18:00:42 #chair spevack 18:00:42 Current chairs: kital spevack 18:00:43 Max Spevack 18:01:19 thanks all for coming 18:01:26 how's everyone doing? 18:01:36 great :) 18:01:51 spevack: can imagine mostly working on F13 Release ;) 18:02:03 spevack: but fine! 18:02:16 we have not so much on the Agenda today 18:02:18 spevack, a bit busy but fine 18:02:19 I'm spending most of my time trying to figure out how I'm going to do my job and Greg's job after this week :( 18:02:34 o0 18:02:48 spevack: maybe you can hand over things to us? 18:03:17 kital: i'm sure there will be some of that. So much is already handed over, and everyone is busy. 18:04:26 you know we are here and will try to help you 18:04:58 Agenda today - 18:05:10 #topic Current action items 18:05:31 has anyone a update on his current action item? 18:05:47 * kital has none on mentoring survey ;( 18:06:10 My updates: 18:06:28 I need to go through my tickets, and get a few things paid, especially for IDLELO. But everything should be in good shape for that event. 18:06:32 I thought Pierros' blog post was great 18:06:38 I just need to get him his plane ticket reimbursement 18:07:10 * tatica has been working on translate some parts of the wiki 18:07:20 spevack: yeah he has started "road to ghana" ;) 18:07:28 * ke4qqq is here sorry for being late 18:07:33 for me, I need to arrange a release party meeting this week.. which I will do 18:07:49 welcome ke4qqq we review the action items 18:08:06 susmit: should we do a action item for that? 18:08:19 yes, please 18:09:01 #action susmit arrange a release party meeting this week weeknum 19 18:09:47 btw. i want to thank all again that we could hand out the April Report last week! 18:09:58 lets move on` 18:09:59 ? 18:10:35 #topic Ambassador topics for future Release Schedules 18:11:35 John brought up a question grown from a conflict with design team and insufficient scheduling 18:11:56 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-May/014478.html 18:12:11 * ke4qqq actually thought from the tone that he was going to attend the meeting today - but perhaps I misread that 18:12:30 * spevack reads 18:12:53 and the question is - Is there a need for Ambassador Milestones to be Scheduled? 18:13:17 There are a few Ambassador-related things that should be part of the official Fedora schedule. 18:13:20 i answered already with two points i see that we should add 18:13:29 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-May/014479.html 18:13:39 (1) Decision about what media will be "professionally" produced, with enough time for the Artwork team to produce the proper image files. 18:13:45 ke4qqq: yes but "i have added as a topic for the next FAmSCo Meeting. 18:13:47 (2) Ordering of media in different geos. 18:14:21 " is not a clear invitation from my side - maybe he also misunderstood me 18:14:21 we didn't have a formalized set of rules for this in F13, and it has led to some chaos as we all know. 18:14:29 spevack: yes 18:14:38 yes 18:15:03 hi, sorry for the delay 18:15:21 hi lfoppiano we discuss http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-May/014478.html 18:15:38 lfoppiano: Scheduling Ambassador topics for releases 18:16:41 i also see Media as a clear topic to be scheduled - decission has to be made till a certain date > how much media and what media 18:17:25 maybe also the Release Events and Party Organization should be scheduled along the official schedule ? http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-key-tasks.html 18:17:37 not for F13 but for future releases? 18:17:41 can you think of more? 18:17:56 I think that likely needs to be an action item for all of us 18:18:16 as horrendous as everybody tasks are for getting things done 18:19:17 ok so only Media production as a "official" scheduled item? 18:19:37 right now - there was no other proposal on the Ambassador List 18:19:42 i think so, kital 18:20:19 kital, may be release events 18:20:34 ok - i suggest that the regional famsco members get feedback in the next regional meetings what the community thinks is a good timeline for producing media? 18:20:56 more important than the tasks themselves is their relationship to other things like artwork, etc 18:21:46 right 18:21:49 ke4qqq: yes if we know what will be produced the designteam can work on 18:22:12 everything depends of the theme 18:22:15 and has not to produce artwork for media we will not produce 18:22:26 after we have a wallpaper, everything can take just a couple of days 18:22:35 including the dvd, banners and other stuff 18:22:41 the date you need to take care is that one 18:24:05 tatica from design team perspective - what do you think is a good timeframe to know what media will be produced and what artwork is needed for this media? 18:25:04 usually the media art is based on the wallpaper 18:25:24 is just to take the wallpaper with a default content (print and cases) and that's it 18:25:43 so after the wallpaper is done... 2 or 3 days top are enough to have the art done for media 18:26:21 tatica: what i mean is also spin media design 18:26:44 is the same, the only thing that change is the "name" and background 18:26:53 and everything is in the same place 18:28:07 ok thanks tatica - lets get feedback from the regional meetings? 18:28:40 :) 18:28:51 all lets get feedback from the regional meetings? 18:29:41 +1 18:30:28 yes 18:30:31 ok 18:32:15 kital, ? 18:32:17 #agreed get regional feedback on what Ambassdor topics should scheduled in the official release schedule in the future 18:32:23 ok 18:32:37 #open flooe 18:32:39 #open floor 18:32:41 ;= 18:32:55 anyone anything? 18:32:59 nothing from me this week. 18:33:00 can we make sure to invite poelcat to the appropriate next famsco meeting - or do we want that done out of meeting 18:33:19 i think it's a fine idea to use a famsco meeting as "planning schedule items for next release" 18:33:44 * susmit thinks that we should discuss more on the ml. it is pretty inactive 18:33:55 susmit: +1, for sure 18:34:04 people in Latam has been working this week 18:34:09 I'm really proud of them 18:34:30 they have been translating and setting a lot of documentation so after the release party 18:34:34 susmit: I agree, but think the vast majority has no input - media production is pretty limited in number of participants, same with things like structure around release parties 18:34:49 if new members (non-english) want to join; they will be able to have docs for them 18:35:11 nothing for me as well 18:35:59 i just want to point to an initiative we have started by sspreitzer 18:36:00 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Africa 18:36:01 tatica: that's awesome 18:36:09 ke4qqq, i was talking about the famsco ml 18:36:20 susmit: ahhh - forgive me, I misunderstood 18:36:37 ke4qqq, no problem :) 18:37:33 hmm 18:37:53 right now the Africa meeting are not really driven by the africa community 18:37:54 what if we open a weekly thread to "take notes" of the goals of the day/week 18:37:58 ? 18:38:15 that could move a little more the mail list and provide a faster feedback 18:38:15 what can we do to help Africa sprout more community, if anything 18:38:34 ke4qqq: i think sspreitzer is trying to start it 18:38:47 yes, what can we do to help his efforts 18:38:55 but in the last meeting only germans, greeks and one African Contributors showed up 18:39:06 wasn't there talk of a Cairo FAD recently? 18:39:09 a lot discussions ... 18:39:14 http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-05-05/fedora-meeting.2010-05-05-19.14.html 18:39:19 maybe we should send some fedora baloons to the footbal worldcup 18:39:31 tatica: ;) 18:39:37 or sponsor a footbal ball and use it 18:39:37 :$ 18:40:06 :) 18:40:19 sorry... too much happy for the worldcup :$ 18:40:33 just wanted to point out that something is going on in Africa because - we also had it on our goals for 2010 - think on Idlelo and so on 18:41:25 ok that´s it for today? 18:41:54 do we have contact with a university in Africa? 18:41:59 in/on 18:42:45 we have to fossfa and i hope that Pierros and Isaac will link to them more deeply on idlelo 18:43:35 universities - some of the people listed on the Africa Page are working on Universities or are students there 18:44:10 can we try to have a videoconference or something? maybe if some are teachers we could take 15min per week 18:44:19 i thinnk the next important task that we should support is to enable regional African Leaders like Isaac 18:44:32 and convince them to take over as soon as they feel ready 18:44:33 oka 18:44:35 ? 18:45:36 seems susmit has connection problems 18:45:48 ok seems all a bit unfocused ;) 18:46:00 * kital included 18:46:10 should we end for today? 18:46:24 +1 18:46:44 ok 18:47:23 thanks all for coming! 18:47:26 #endmeeting