20:02:17 <stickster> #startmeeting Fedora Marketing 20:02:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Nov 2 20:02:17 2010 UTC. The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:02:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:02:21 <stickster> #meetingname Fedora Marketing 20:02:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing' 20:02:25 <stickster> #topic Roll call! 20:02:29 * stickster 20:02:35 * ke4qqq pretends to be here 20:03:19 <stickster> ke4qqq: I think it may be a slightly shorter meeting today :-) 20:03:30 <stickster> #chair ke4qqq 20:03:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: ke4qqq stickster 20:03:36 <ke4qqq> perhaps so :) 20:03:41 <stickster> #chair rbergeron 20:03:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: ke4qqq rbergeron stickster 20:03:44 <stickster> (in case she comes in) 20:04:12 * ke4zvu3 is here 20:04:46 <stickster> #chair ke4zvu3 20:04:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: ke4qqq ke4zvu3 rbergeron stickster 20:05:00 <stickster> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-10-26/fedora_marketing.2010-10-26-20.00.html <-- notes from last meeting 20:05:21 <stickster> All right, let's forge ahead 20:05:25 <stickster> #topic Action item review 20:05:46 <stickster> #info Looks like everything on the list was done. That doesn't mean one page release notes are entirely done, but we did make some big steps. Announcement was finished and released as well! 20:06:00 <stickster> #topic One page release notes 20:07:15 <stickster> To my eyes, there's a big chunk of text missing in the "Desktop" section -- the first paragraph is truncated 20:07:51 * jsmith runs off to take a look 20:08:28 <stickster> I can't tell whether rbergeron had a plan for this section or whether someone else did. I'll try to fill that in by the end of this meeting. 20:08:43 <stickster> #action stickster Complete first paragraph of Desktop section of one page release notes by end of this meeting 20:09:01 <ke4zvu3> that's ambitious 20:09:03 <stickster> #info We also need a banner completed for the page 20:09:34 <stickster> Anyone here able to paste a photo into this SVG to complete it? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F13-releasenotes-banner.svg 20:10:05 <stickster> The photo from Slide 4 of http://fedoraproject.org would look *great* there, I think 20:10:59 <stickster> #idea Get photo from slide 4 of http://fedoraproject.org and incorporate into above SVG to produce a finished banner 20:11:14 * yn1v waves 20:11:18 <stickster> Hi Neville! 20:11:42 <stickster> OK, since no one is responding with "Yes, I'd love to take a crack at that," I'll move on. 20:11:48 * ke4qqq is showing his ignorance, but can you take raster graphics and move them into vector graphics 20:11:51 <ke4qqq> ?? 20:12:15 <stickster> ke4qqq: Yes, or you can render the SVG -> PNG (with transparency/alpha) and then do the rest in GIMP 20:12:31 <stickster> The latter is probably just as well, since the raster won't be scalable 20:12:46 <ke4qqq> hmmmm ok 20:12:57 <stickster> #action stickster Post to list with idea on finishing the F14 one page release notes banner 20:13:06 <stickster> #topic F14 release! WOO! 20:13:30 <stickster> So... the release went off well, and thanks to everyone for helping with all the various tasks for Marketing! 20:13:46 <stickster> ke4zvu3: Tell us about soc-net/denty/tweety stuff 20:14:10 <ke4zvu3> lots of people out on the interwebz talking about and re-tweet/dent 'ing it. 20:14:30 <ke4zvu3> where it == the F14 release 20:14:49 <ke4zvu3> a few people asking questions that i've tried to answer 20:14:58 <ke4zvu3> not much else going on at least that i have going on with it 20:15:04 <stickster> ke4zvu3: Is there any way you know of where we can measure the number of #fedora status messages out there? 20:15:49 <ke4zvu3> since what time period ? 20:16:25 <ke4qqq> forevvver or at least since the unix epoch? 20:16:30 <ke4zvu3> haha 20:16:48 <ke4zvu3> there have been about 1 a minute at least in the past hour 20:16:53 <ke4qqq> what time periods do you have available 20:17:13 <ke4qqq> I mean can you show n number of mentions since 10/1 per day each day or.... 20:18:13 <stickster> ke4zvu3: ke4qqq: I was thinking maybe daily to see trends around the release day 20:18:35 <ke4qqq> /me is worried that so close to release we would know what the noise floor is 20:19:12 <ke4qqq> s/would/wouldn't/ 20:19:18 <ke4zvu3> yeah search.twitter.com doesn't reveal actual numbers on any search result. there seem to be a lot more pages than i have time to scroll through atm 20:19:36 <stickster> ke4qqq: Yeah, we would want to have some measurement from prior to release, but that should be possible to pull. The question is, is there some app out there that uses their API to produce that sort of thing? 20:19:43 <ke4zvu3> and that's just people that use the hashtag as opposed to the greater masses that don't but then you introduce the people that are referring to headwear 20:19:43 <ke4qqq> so is 500 mentions a lot, or is that normal. 20:20:01 <stickster> I imaagine someone has built a paid service around ferreting this stuff out. :-) 20:20:17 <ke4qqq> ke4zvu3: what's amblins service 20:20:35 <ke4qqq> it's not pay - and it's build on floss - albeit I don't think free 20:21:41 * ke4qqq clearly can't type 20:21:57 <stickster> Jono gave us a shout too, that was nice 20:23:09 <stickster> Well, this is maybe food for thought. ke4zvu3, perhaps something to investigate and report on-list -- what our options are for finding/measuring activity 20:23:53 <stickster> #info Thanks to ke4zvu3 for keeping on top of our identi.ca/Twitter feeds and providing notices for release, replies, etc. 20:23:56 <stickster> Nice work! 20:25:04 <stickster> Anything else on social networking? 20:25:44 <stickster> #topic Tracking and replying to F14 articles 20:26:44 <stickster> #info Reminder: Be courteous and helpful in replies to articles and reviews. It's much easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar. Assume best intentions, and let writers know where they can get more information. 20:27:10 <stickster> I know that adamw has done some replies to articles, I encourage other Marketeers to do the same 20:27:33 <stickster> ke4qqq: ke4zvu3: Do either of you get news feeds that show you articles that are published re: new Fedora releases? 20:29:28 <ke4zvu3> stickster: yes 20:29:44 <stickster> OK, cool -- just want to encourage people to stay up on web based publications or news articles, and if there are errors, correct them nicely with offers to provide more info or interviews if helpful. 20:30:09 <ke4zvu3> stickster: sure $dayjob boss interrupted me for a few 20:30:17 * stickster sees that today's meeting is probably a little light, and is going to spend a few minute on that one page release notes issue. 20:30:29 <stickster> That's perfectly understandable, since it's release day and all :-) 20:30:44 <stickster> I'll open the floor while I work on that text. 20:30:51 <stickster> #topic All other business (AOB) - open floor 20:38:59 <stickster> #info stickster completes thoughts at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_one_page_release_notes#Desktop_Users (hopefully) 20:39:14 * ke4qqq goes to read 20:46:20 <MarkDude> Any ideas on where else I can find some good RH Fedora videos *besides* Kaltura? 20:46:37 * MarkDude is still unable to view anything on there 20:51:31 <jsmith> MarkDude: press.redhat.com? 20:51:32 <ke4qqq> MarkDude: there should be ogg of any fedora vidoes RHT produced 20:52:50 <MarkDude> Cool 20:53:57 * MarkDude is hoping for stuff that talks about the relation between RH and Fedora- that really resonates in my local community 20:54:19 <stickster> MarkDude: I can get you a link, hang on 20:54:36 <stickster> MarkDude: http://www.redhat.com/videos/community/all.html 20:54:47 <MarkDude> Business owners really appreciate how the interplay benefits both parties- and by extension everyone 20:54:54 <MarkDude> Cool thx stickster 20:55:03 <stickster> Plus the two most recent videos, one of which explains that interplay in detail. See http://press.redhat.com/ 20:55:11 <stickster> Sorry, *three* most recent videos 20:56:41 <ke4qqq> we made front page of slashdot, how did I miss that 21:01:56 <MarkDude> Yay, I will put the new video stuff on our release party tonight :D 21:02:56 * stickster will close out 21:02:58 <stickster> #endmeeting