19:00:09 <Sparks_too> #startmeeting Insight Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight#Meeting_agenda
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19:00:16 <Sparks_too> #meetingname Insight
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19:00:24 <Sparks_too> #topic Roll Call
19:00:27 * Sparks_too is here.
19:01:19 <asrob> hi
19:01:57 <Sparks_too> asrob: Greetings!
19:03:42 <smooge> I am sort of here. my apologies
19:03:46 <Sparks_too> pcalarco: I'm guessing you are here for the Insight meeting?
19:03:57 <Sparks_too> smooge: okay
19:04:07 <pcalarco> pcalarco is here for FI, yes
19:04:26 <Sparks_too> awesome
19:04:49 <Sparks_too> Okay, lets get started...
19:05:01 <Sparks_too> #topic Review previous action items
19:05:12 <Sparks_too> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-11-11/fedora_insight.2010-11-11-19.00.html
19:05:46 <Sparks_too> asrob: Have you talked with the Design team about helping with the theme?
19:06:15 * Schendje is here to help with that
19:06:21 <asrob> Sparks_too: yeah, I have talked
19:06:29 <asrob> Sparks_too: yep, Schendje will help
19:06:44 <Sparks_too> Awesome.  We'll talk more about that in a bit.
19:07:07 <Sparks_too> #info asrob has talked with Design Team about helping.  Schendje will be assisting.
19:07:24 <Sparks_too> #info hiemanshu Most likely will not be with us today.
19:07:34 * hiemanshu is lurking
19:07:38 <Sparks_too> there he is
19:07:51 <asrob> :)
19:07:52 <Sparks_too> hiemanshu: Have you and asrob been working on packaging Feeds?
19:08:06 <hiemanshu> yes, from what I see asrob was doing it
19:08:12 <Sparks_too> Okay
19:08:19 <Sparks_too> asrob: do you need a review, yet?
19:08:24 <asrob> Sparks_too: yep, I have submitted my first packages
19:08:32 <asrob> Sparks_too: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653805 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654047
19:08:34 <Sparks_too> awesome!
19:08:36 <hiemanshu> asrob: this is your first package right?
19:08:41 <asrob> hiemanshu: yes
19:08:52 <hiemanshu> asrob: has anyone taken it yet?
19:08:57 <asrob> hiemanshu: no
19:09:12 <Sparks_too> He needs a sponsor...
19:09:14 <hiemanshu> .sponsors packager
19:09:15 <zodbot> hiemanshu: Sponsors for packager: abompard adrian akurtakov alexl anvil athimm ausil awjb bernie @bpepple c4chris caillon chitlesh corsepiu cweyl cwickert denis dgregor dwmw2 ecik edhill ensc fitzsim @gdk gemi ianweller ivazquez ixs jamatos jjames jkeating johnp jpmahowa jpo jspaleta @jstanley jussilehtola jwilson jwrdegoede katzj @kevin kkofler laxathom limb lkundrak lutter markmc mbooth mclasen mdomsch mgieseki (1 more message)
19:09:22 <Sparks_too> I'm not sure who can sponsor
19:09:24 <hiemanshu> .more
19:09:29 <zodbot> hiemanshu: mmahut mschwendt mtasaka nb nim notting nphilipp oget orion overholt paragn pertusus peter petersen pfj pghmcfc pnasrat rathann rdieter remi rjones ruben rvokal s4504kr salimma scop sharkcz @skvidal @sopwith @spot steve thias @thl thomasvs tibbs till tmraz toshio tuxbrewr wart wolfy @wtogami xulchris
19:09:42 <Sparks_too> So, not me
19:09:53 <hiemanshu> asrob: these people will be able to help you out, ask in -devel if anyone wants to help
19:09:57 <pcalarco> toshio has been in the FI conversation
19:10:24 <asrob> hiemanshu: okay, thanks
19:10:24 * Sparks_too will be happy to take one of the reviews if you get sponsorship
19:10:43 <hiemanshu> Sparks_too: you can do unofficial reviews to make it easier for the sponsor if you like
19:10:55 <Sparks_too> hiemanshu: Good idea
19:11:05 * hiemanshu wont have much time this week so wont promise anything
19:11:53 <Sparks_too> #info asrob Packaged drupal-ctools and drupal-feeds but needs sponsorship.
19:12:07 <Sparks_too> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653805
19:12:16 <Sparks_too> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654047
19:12:24 <hiemanshu> I can speak to a couple of people to see if they can take it up for review
19:12:31 <Sparks_too> excellent
19:12:46 <Sparks_too> pcalarco: Did you figure out how to make a link for FWN?
19:12:50 <pcalarco> yes, and this is something I wanted to bounce off asrob as he knows more best practices with Drupal; I think the best way to do this would be to define a block within a view and show the FWN content in that block, with the block defined as a single item (if we only want to display the more recent issue); asrob, is this a reasonable approach, given the theme direction, or is there a better suggestion?
19:13:45 <asrob> the first suggestion is good idea
19:14:38 <pcalarco> okay, great; this block would be incorporated on the front page, so perhaps I could work with you to define that and such?
19:15:21 <Sparks_too> #info pcalarco came up with a plan to integrate the most current FWN content using blocks.
19:15:24 <asrob> I think it is solvable
19:15:54 <Sparks_too> #action pcalarco and asrob to work together to build and test the block that will display the last FWN.
19:16:15 <Sparks_too> smooge: Were you able to get a RHEL6 box up on publictest?
19:16:32 <smooge> not yet
19:16:46 <pcalarco> asrob: thank you for your help and thoughts!
19:16:48 <smooge> been having to deal with other infrastructure issues that came first
19:16:53 <hiemanshu> nirik: works for me :) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653805 or https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654047
19:16:53 <Sparks_too> #action smooge Get publictest box on RHEL6 up by next meeting so we can start working with it (newer PHP, etc.)
19:16:53 <asrob> pcalarco: np
19:16:55 <smooge> those issues are being dealt with
19:16:57 <Sparks_too> smooge: Understood.
19:17:11 <smooge> my apologies for not letting you know
19:17:25 <Sparks_too> smooge: No worries.  I know things are busy
19:17:47 <Sparks_too> #action stickster Contact limb (Jon C) and get his feedback on a 'drupal6 = 6.X' virtual Provides in the Fedora drupal package
19:18:03 <Sparks_too> I think that completes the previous action items.
19:18:13 <hiemanshu> asrob: I pinged a sponsor, and he will take a look at it once he has time
19:18:26 <Sparks_too> #topic Drupal status - Theming
19:18:27 <asrob> hiemanshu: it's great, thank you
19:18:37 <Sparks_too> hiemanshu: Did you want to discuss the theme?
19:18:43 <Sparks_too> You and asrob?
19:19:19 <asrob> Sparks_too: yeah, I have uploaded a Ninesixty sub-theme into git repo
19:19:24 <hiemanshu> Well as of now, I am going to make a rough draft of what I had in mind for the theme before someone mucher better with GIMP will be able to make one
19:20:16 <Schendje> asrob: i just cloned fedora-insight-theme, but only have the "fedora" folder so far
19:20:18 <Schendje> is that correct?
19:20:25 <asrob> Schendje: yep
19:20:28 <Schendje> ah ok
19:21:33 <hiemanshu> So if my idea works well for everyone we can use that with a better mockup maybe, or we can have someone help with a completely new mockup
19:21:59 <asrob> hiemanshu: okay
19:22:10 <Schendje> hiemanshu: i was wondering, how much do guys want it to look like www.fpo?
19:22:38 <hiemanshu> Schendje: People should know its a part of fedora but it shouldn't look exactly like ww.fpo
19:22:43 <hiemanshu> www.fpo**
19:22:52 <hiemanshu> I hope yo uunderstand what I am trying to say
19:22:59 <Schendje> yeah that sounds good :)
19:23:14 <Schendje> so we won't use the header and footer (like on http://start.stg.fedoraproject.org/ )
19:23:30 <Schendje> but they will look *like* www.fpo's header / footer
19:24:02 <hiemanshu> I was planning for using www.fpo's header and footer with the content being something unique
19:24:16 <Schendje> oh ok, so keeping those
19:24:25 <Schendje> sounds good to me
19:24:31 <hiemanshu> yeah, change the color maybe, but layout something similiar
19:24:50 <pcalarco> it seems like we should have most of that in there for consistent branding, right?
19:25:06 <hiemanshu> pcalarco: yes, that was the idea
19:25:17 <Schendje> you could pick one of the foundation colors maybe?
19:25:22 <Schendje> so we don't get too many different ones
19:25:42 <hiemanshu> the footer has to be the same for all fedora sites is what I hear
19:25:57 <Schendje> that would indeed be nice :)
19:27:24 <hiemanshu> Schendje: I like the colors on www.fpo/index so maybe something using those base colors with our own style of content would be nice
19:27:56 <Schendje> hiemanshu: you mean the green and blue from the slide?
19:28:15 <hiemanshu> green/blue/grey
19:28:22 <Sparks_too> Perhaps you guys can get together on IRC after the meeting to work this out and report back to the list?
19:28:37 <Schendje> Sparks_too: sure :)
19:28:51 <asrob> :)
19:29:19 <Sparks_too> #action Schendje hiemanshu asrob to work on the Theme and take their design work to the list once decisions have been made about the look, feel, and colors.
19:29:46 <Sparks_too> #topic Drupal status - Views & book combo
19:29:59 <Sparks_too> It doesn't appear that Pascal is with us today.
19:30:07 <Sparks_too> Does anyone have anything on this topic?
19:30:11 <pcalarco> pcalarco=Pascal :)
19:30:25 <Sparks_too> Opps!
19:30:33 <asrob> :)
19:30:38 <Sparks_too> What was I thinking Pascal==Pascal?  Sorry about that!
19:30:49 <pcalarco> we're basically done with the basic Views and book combo, the next step here is the block view
19:30:57 <pcalarco> Sparks_too: np
19:31:28 <pcalarco> I should document this now, which I will take as an action item
19:32:02 <Sparks_too> What are you going to document... the block view?
19:32:10 <pcalarco> #action pcalarco will document FWN book/View combination
19:32:19 <Sparks_too> There you go
19:32:34 <Sparks_too> Anything else?
19:32:41 <pcalarco> no
19:32:46 <pcalarco> eof
19:32:59 <Sparks_too> awesome
19:33:15 <Sparks_too> #topic Drupal status - Feeds & ManagingNews discussion
19:34:05 <Sparks_too> Anyone have anything on this topic?
19:34:18 <asrob> yeah, I am
19:34:22 <asrob> well
19:35:02 <pcalarco> it is fair to say we've decided to use Feeds and not ManagingNews?
19:35:31 <asrob> yep
19:35:38 <asrob> MN is a complete drupal distro
19:36:08 <asrob> we don't have completely but a few part of that is usable
19:36:26 <pcalarco> are there packaging needs with Feeds also then?
19:36:32 <asrob> like importing data into drupal
19:36:38 <asrob> pcalarco: yes
19:37:40 <Sparks_too> So we are waiting on feeds to be packaged
19:38:10 <asrob> I am trying to write a module which will simply publish the collected data
19:38:56 <pcalarco> asrob: by publishing, do you mean RSS syndication or something else?
19:39:31 <asrob> pcalarco: something else, Feeds import rss into drupal "cache"
19:41:09 <Sparks_too> Okay.
19:41:11 <asrob> I need other module like Data
19:41:24 <asrob> I will a summary email that how it works
19:41:27 <Sparks_too> asrob: Can you summarize what you need on the list?
19:41:30 <Sparks_too> Excellent.
19:41:33 <asrob> Sparks_too: yeah
19:42:03 <Sparks_too> #action asrob to summarize what he needs to get his module to work for importing RSS info the Drupal "cache".
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19:42:25 <Sparks_too> #action asrob to summarize what he needs to get his module to work for importing RSS info the Drupal "cache" in an email to the list.
19:42:37 <Sparks_too> Okay, anything else?
19:42:45 <asrob> -
19:42:57 <Sparks_too> asrob: Is that a yes?
19:43:02 <pcalarco> nothing here
19:43:09 <asrob> Sparks_too: no, nothing
19:43:11 <Sparks_too> #topic Drupal status - Packaging
19:43:51 <Sparks_too> #info asrob Packaged drupal-ctools and drupal-feeds but needs sponsorship.
19:43:51 <Sparks_too> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653805
19:43:51 <Sparks_too> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654047
19:44:23 <Sparks_too> Are those the only modules that need to be packaged or reviewed?
19:44:58 <asrob> no
19:45:12 <asrob> I will submit a few packages
19:45:38 <pcalarco> asrob: what other modules do you think we need?
19:45:46 <asrob> for example Data, http://drupal.org/project/data
19:46:18 <asrob> It has into MN as well
19:47:01 <Sparks_too> asrob: Any others?
19:47:03 <pcalarco> asrob: great, thx
19:47:17 <asrob> Sparks_too: nothing
19:47:21 <asrob> pcalarco: np
19:47:43 <Sparks_too> #info Data module needs to be packaged and reviewed
19:47:58 <Sparks_too> asrob: Any idea when that module will be ready for review?
19:48:00 <asrob> guys, I hope you understand me, today I am not good in English
19:48:24 <asrob> Sparks_too: I will submit tomorrow
19:48:29 <Sparks_too> asrob: Excellent.
19:48:51 <Sparks_too> #action asrob to package Data module which should be ready for review by next meeting
19:48:52 <pcalarco> asrob: I can understand you very well and your English is worlds better than my Hungarian :)
19:49:00 <Sparks_too> ditto
19:49:14 <asrob> thanks guys ;)
19:49:36 <Sparks_too> Okay, anythign else on this topic?
19:49:41 <asrob> nothing
19:50:19 <Sparks_too> #topic Open discussion
19:50:24 <pcalarco> !
19:50:28 <Sparks_too> Okay, anyone have anything they need to discuss?
19:50:38 <Sparks_too> pcalarco: Go ahead.
19:51:07 <pcalarco> I wonder if we should set some milestones for ourselves, leading up to FUDCon 2011 in Tempe, and/or F15 beta
19:51:41 <Sparks_too> pcalarco: that would probably be a good idea
19:51:46 <asrob> +1
19:51:46 <pcalarco> I know we have set target dates in the past and things have nont gone so well but it might help give us more momentum if we have dates?
19:51:56 <hiemanshu> pcalarco: make one, send it to the list it gets approved by everyone thats great
19:52:54 <pcalarco> ok, I'll think about this and articulate a proposal on the logistics list
19:53:09 <Sparks_too> I think there are goals on the Insight wiki page
19:53:19 <Sparks_too> January 5 - Staging instance that produces working versions of the Fedora Weekly News with minimal editing required
19:53:28 <Sparks_too> January 19 - Production instance that will appear at http://fedoraproject.org/insight
19:54:04 <pcalarco> ah, okay, those still seem do-able.  what about nearer term milestones?
19:54:24 <Sparks_too> That's all there was on the wiki page.
19:54:36 <Sparks_too> pcalarco: taking it to the logistics list is probably a good idea
19:55:09 <pcalarco> okay, thanks for everyone's thoughts on that
19:55:30 <Sparks_too> Okay, anything else?
19:55:45 <asrob> nothing
19:55:46 <pcalarco> nothing here
19:57:20 <Sparks_too> Okay, I guess we'll close.  Thanks everyone for coming out today.
19:57:34 <Sparks_too> #endmeeting