19:00:28 <stickster> #startmeeting Insight
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19:00:33 <stickster> #meetingname Insight
19:00:33 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'insight'
19:00:36 <stickster> #topic Roll call!
19:00:41 <asrob> re
19:01:07 <stickster> o/ asrob
19:01:47 <tatica> o/
19:01:52 <asrob> tatica: hi
19:01:54 <stickster> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2011-03-14/insight.2011-03-14-19.01.html <-- Last meeting's agenda
19:02:12 <tatica> asrob, :D
19:03:26 <stickster> #chair asrob tatica
19:03:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: asrob stickster tatica
19:03:34 <stickster> #topic Last week's action items
19:03:55 <stickster> #info 1 -- stickster removed old cmsadmin members, sent email to list about it earlier.
19:04:26 <stickster> asrob: How'd you do on the upstream release monitoring topic? Did you find out how to get it included in the cnucnu repo?
19:04:29 * tatica is sorry about her crazy offline-status
19:04:46 <stickster> tatica: It's no problem -- we all go through ups and downs. :-)
19:05:11 <asrob> stickster: not yet, all "packages" are in there ftp://ftp.drupal.org/pub/drupal/files/projects
19:05:22 <asrob> stickster: but I don't know regexp
19:05:44 <asrob> stickster: I think it can be work
19:05:48 * tatica crazy with flisol :\
19:05:55 * averi around for a few minutes (really *bad* day :) )
19:06:03 <stickster> asrob: I think the URM page gives some hints on that, and you can try formulating one using the command line -- if you can't make it work, post to the list and we'll try to help you
19:06:33 <stickster> averi: Well, how about a status update then! :-) I think we've gone a long way.
19:06:35 <asrob> stickster: thx, I need help with regexp writing
19:07:09 <stickster> asrob: If you need help, just post to the list. Don't be shy! I ask for help all the time. ;-)
19:07:24 <asrob> stickster: OK ;)
19:07:38 <stickster> #action asrob will try making a regex for Upstream Release Monitoring, and post to the list if he needs help
19:07:47 <stickster> #topic Staging status!
19:08:40 <averi> me and stickster had some bad times this week testing our puppet configuration
19:08:49 <averi> and...after several tests and rebuilds we made it :)
19:08:51 <stickster> Well, it was *good* pain :-D
19:08:57 <asrob> :)
19:09:04 <stickster> Great work on that averi :-)
19:09:32 <averi> we are now out of staging and we are going live really really soon. (machine had to be ready for today but I didnt have the time to talk with smooge yet so maybe tomorrow)
19:09:36 <averi> stickster, thanks :)
19:09:52 <stickster> averi: We should definitely post something BIG to the logistics@ and news@ lists
19:10:03 <stickster> So that pcalarco knows we're ready for them!
19:10:46 <pcalarco> sounds great! :)
19:11:21 <stickster> pcalarco: We should get a current issue of FWN into the system this week, so that when we go live the latest issue will be in the db
19:11:39 <asrob> it's great
19:11:41 <stickster> averi: Where will the production-level db come from?
19:11:48 <stickster> Is it going to be a copy from pt09 again?
19:11:50 <averi> stickster, it won't be local
19:11:53 <pcalarco> have we emptied the DB yet?
19:12:05 <averi> stickster, it will be hosted on our main DB machine
19:12:09 <averi> so either db01 or db02
19:12:11 <stickster> pcalarco: We haven't emptied anything at this point. We did staging by making a snapshot of pt09's database.
19:12:24 <pcalarco> stickster: I think I am still waiting on an application to cmseditors as well
19:12:26 <averi> and it will be backup like other production databases
19:12:28 <stickster> averi: Will we copy a snapshot again from pt09 to db01 or db02?
19:13:22 <averi> stickster, not sure which machine will host it yet, I am sure that we will use pt09 db :)
19:13:31 <stickster> Ha, pcalarco -- you're the owner of that group, but waiting for your own approval!
19:13:49 <pcalarco> lol, thanks stickster
19:13:55 <asrob> :)
19:14:01 <stickster> averi: OK, that means pcalarco, you'll go to our regular system, publictest09.fedoraproject.org/drupal,  to enter your new issue of FWN
19:14:22 <pcalarco> nods, got it
19:14:26 <averi> stickster, pt03 do have the same db as 09 atm
19:14:34 <averi> so both of them should be fine
19:15:24 <stickster> pcalarco: Looks like rbergeron was an administrator too, but I've approved you
19:16:09 <stickster> averi: Right, we just need to keep track of which one is "canonical" so when we take the copy we get the right data
19:16:41 <stickster> averi: Let's just consider pt09 is the "canonical" source, and when it comes time to take a copy for db0* host, it will come from pt09
19:16:55 <stickster> I'm really excited, guys!
19:17:18 <asrob> if I want to modify something then I will have modify it on pt09?
19:17:26 <averi> stickster, going afk for a while, bad day for me
19:17:34 <stickster> averi: Thanks for being here averi, see you soon!
19:17:53 <stickster> asrob: We should keep modifications to a minimum as far as altering things like Views, etc.
19:17:57 <stickster> No new modules, etc.
19:18:03 <stickster> Until we get the copy for production.
19:18:25 <pcalarco> is pt09 running against FAS or FakeFAS?
19:18:32 <stickster> Then we can unfreeze and start working on the next phase, because the real DB will be in use on the production host, and pt09 will revert to being a complete test system
19:18:41 <stickster> pcalarco: FakeFAS
19:18:47 <asrob> stickster: okay
19:18:54 <pcalarco> stickster: thx
19:20:03 <stickster> asrob: http://publictest09.fedoraproject.org/drupal/moderation-queue
19:20:25 <stickster> We probably need you to write some instructions on how to pull updates into that queue, and how to approve things for publishing on the front page.
19:21:25 <asrob> stickster: okay, I am going to write some instructions tomorrow
19:22:25 <stickster> asrob: What's the first step? I want to update it now, so rbergeron can look at it to see what we might want to pull in for the front page
19:22:44 * stickster thinks it would be nice to put it into production with a couple good posts already available
19:23:25 <asrob> stickster: select a post that you would like to publicate
19:23:38 <stickster> asrob: Well, first thing's first -- how do I update the imported posts?
19:23:57 <pcalarco> stickster: what is the FakaeFAS admin?  https://publictest4.fedoraproject.org//accounts/ ?
19:24:19 * sparks sneaks in and sits quietly in the back.
19:24:22 <stickster> pcalarco: https://fakefas.fedoraproject.org/accounts
19:24:22 <asrob> stickster: you mean do you want to change its name for example?
19:24:41 <stickster> asrob: Not quite -- I want to get a fresh bunch of posts from the planet, imported to the moderation queue
19:25:06 <stickster> So I'll see the things that are on planet.fp.o right now, in the moderation queue.
19:25:29 <asrob> there is automatice importing
19:25:39 <asrob> every 1 hour
19:25:48 <stickster> asrob: Look at the moderation queue: http://publictest09.fedoraproject.org/drupal/moderation-queue
19:25:51 <stickster> That's quite old
19:26:08 <asrob> yeah because cron is not running imho
19:26:13 <stickster> AHA!
19:26:25 <asrob> Cron maintenance tasksLast run 2 weeks 6 days ago
19:26:26 <stickster> #info cron is not running, so feeds are not being updated regularly
19:26:30 <asrob> that's why ;)
19:26:31 <stickster> OK, we need to get to the bottom of hat.
19:26:33 <stickster> *that.
19:26:45 <asrob> yep, you're right
19:27:20 <stickster> asrob: I see the problem
19:27:29 <stickster> asrob: localhost is denied, so the cronjob doesn't run
19:27:45 <stickster> averi: That means we may need to slightly fix a file in puppet, I can do that
19:27:58 <stickster> #action stickster Make sure that httpd.conf file in puppet allows localhost access
19:28:16 <stickster> Oops, that's not it
19:28:19 <stickster> It's the path :-)
19:28:34 <asrob> :)
19:28:43 <stickster> #undo
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19:29:03 <stickster> #action stickster Make sure cron job file gets fixed, notify upstream maintainer and patch in puppet for now
19:29:57 <stickster> asrob: Well, the cron job ran, but still no updates on the mod-queue.
19:30:08 * AnujMore needs asrob or someone else to make him understand what Puppet is (afterwards)
19:30:37 <stickster> AnujMore: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Puppet
19:30:57 <stickster> asrob: Are you looking at pt09 now?
19:31:09 <asrob> stickster: yeah, I am looking for the solution
19:32:11 <asrob> stickster: could I try to import a new RSS on pt09?
19:32:19 <AnujMore> stickster: Thanks for the link :)
19:32:23 <stickster> asrob: Sure
19:33:19 <stickster> rbergeron: ping
19:33:38 * stickster would like to make sure we have things lined up to get a couple stories approved for our production copy
19:33:57 <rbergeron> stickster: Oh, I have lots of stories.
19:33:59 <stickster> Provided everything is working well, we can moderate some stories on the first day of production too
19:34:15 <rbergeron> stickster: :)
19:34:28 <stickster> rbergeron: Specifically, we are currently importing Planet posts from the feed. So what we want to do is promote a couple on Insight when it goes live
19:34:39 <stickster> asrob is working on figuring out why our queue is not updated
19:34:49 <rbergeron> promote a couple... of Planet posts? Or other stories?
19:34:51 <stickster> Once we lick that problem, and I think it should be pretty easy, we'll be ready t do that.
19:34:54 <stickster> rbergeron: Planet poss.
19:34:57 <stickster> *posts.
19:35:12 <stickster> This is the same plan we've been operating under since we started lo those many moons ago :-D
19:35:24 * rbergeron is just double checking :)
19:35:31 <stickster> As far as putting in additional stories -- I'd be OK with that too, but let's get this part working first
19:35:31 <rbergeron> stickster: what date are we looking at here?
19:35:47 <stickster> rbergeron: It's going to be fairly soon, or else we'll have to wait a couple weeks for the upcoming infrastructure freeze to lift
19:35:51 <stickster> That starts on the 28th or 29th.
19:35:59 <stickster> We really are about ready at long last!
19:36:06 <rbergeron> oh, wow!
19:36:09 <rbergeron> WOOOOHOO
19:37:02 <asrob> stickster: it can be we have to wait while it will be update itself
19:37:31 <asrob> stickster: look at the moderation queue now, your RSS feeds is in the queue
19:37:48 <rbergeron> stickster: so - we are looking to create *new* content, or just keeping an eye out for good posts to feature?
19:37:59 <stickster> asrob: How did you make it work?
19:38:08 <stickster> asrob: Or did you just wait?
19:38:39 <stickster> rbergeron: The lastter
19:38:41 <asrob> stickster: I added your RSS feeds and I think, it updated all of them
19:38:42 <stickster> ARGH. The latter.
19:38:57 <stickster> asrob: No, it didn't add anything new from the Planet
19:38:59 <asrob> stickster: I think, we have to wait a few minutes, or next cron running
19:39:02 * rbergeron deploys mavis beacon to stickster's house
19:39:17 <stickster> asrob: I'll run cron again now
19:39:39 <rbergeron> stickster: I will keep my eyes out the next few days. Is there someplace where I should send the proposed content? Or.... what's the process?
19:39:46 * rbergeron apologizes for not being on top of the ball here
19:40:33 <stickster> asrob: Nope, it's not working :-(
19:41:02 <stickster> rbergeron: The process is that every few days -- maybe once a week -- you or another Marketing guru would visit the Insight site.
19:41:15 <pcalarco> FWN 267 is now available
19:41:20 <pcalarco> #link http://publictest09.fedoraproject.org/drupal/FWN/267/
19:41:42 <stickster> rbergeron: You'd mark a couple posts from the Planet in the moderation queue, according to an SOP that asrob is going to provide. That will republish them to the front page.
19:42:01 <rbergeron> Ah. Sweet.
19:42:15 <rbergeron> Then I shall do that!
19:42:31 <stickster> asrob: Aha, is the problem that no feeds are currently listed anywhere?
19:42:32 * rbergeron will await the SOP with great relish
19:44:57 <stickster> asrob: http://publictest09.fedoraproject.org/drupal/ <-- now those feeds are appearing in Upcoming Events, that's not correct is it?
19:45:04 <asrob> yeah
19:45:10 <asrob> I am working on it too
19:45:25 <stickster> OK
19:45:36 <asrob> but feeds is working now, I updated Planet Fedora node
19:45:45 <stickster> It looks like we have some last minute clean up to do. asrob, can we go to #fedora-mktg and keep working on it together?
19:45:58 <asrob> stickster: sure
19:46:01 <stickster> #info A couple cleanup items apparently are left to do here to ensure our DB will be ready for production
19:46:12 <stickster> #topic Open floor (all other business)
19:46:48 <stickster> Anything else before we adjourn?
19:47:32 <asrob> stickster: I would like to talk you about Insight project management, I would like to write a presentation or something like that to my university :)
19:47:46 <stickster> asrob: You don't want to present on me! That would be disastrous for your grades ;-)
19:48:41 <asrob> :)
19:49:06 <AnujMore> Could we talk about taking our agenda to the wiki?(Easier to share) Or updating data on pt09 and pt03 (One descriptive sentence?)
19:49:10 <AnujMore> I could do that :)
19:49:41 <stickster> AnujMore: I would love to see someone take our agenda from the meeting and transcribe to the wiki
19:49:51 <stickster> I try to capture things in #info and #action so that agenda is clearer
19:50:23 <AnujMore> stickster: I am that "someone" ;)
19:50:33 <stickster> The meeting notes are saved under meetbot.fp.o and accessible publicly -- do you want to give that a try starting this week?
19:50:46 <AnujMore> Yeah.
19:50:49 <stickster> Cool
19:50:55 <stickster> You'll see the links when we #endmeeting
19:51:17 <stickster> #action AnujMore will transcribe agenda to the wiki to help us track work
19:51:23 <stickster> Anything else?
19:51:52 <stickster> If not, I want to get back to #fedora-mktg to work with asrob on fixing these last few issues
19:51:53 <asrob> re
19:51:59 <asrob> ok
19:52:36 <stickster> #endmeeting