19:00:33 #startmeeting Insight 19:00:34 Meeting started Mon May 2 19:00:33 2011 UTC. The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:35 #meetingname Insight 19:00:35 The meeting name has been set to 'insight' 19:00:40 #topic Roll call 19:00:42 * stickster 19:00:46 * asrob too 19:01:11 * stickster is hoping pcalarco might be around for this 19:01:25 * jsmith-busy lurks 19:03:00 * stickster wonders if nirik had the chance to install backup_migrate from epel-testing on the production server for us 19:03:19 * nirik checks. 19:04:29 #chair asrob 19:04:29 Current chairs: asrob stickster 19:04:39 #topic Action item status 19:05:13 #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2011-04-25/insight.2011-04-25-19.01.html <-- last week's notes 19:05:27 Unfortunately I was on travel all last week after our meeting and didn't complete all my action items 19:06:01 #info stickster got the puppet change made in staging -- but it won't work automagically until drupal6-backup_migrate package is in stable repo. 19:06:40 ok. You need that installed on stg? or production? or both? 19:06:41 Our sudo powers only apply to insight.dev as far as I know, so we need someone with more sudo-superpowers to install that package on insight.fp.o and insight.stg.fp.o 19:06:48 nirik, ^^ 19:06:57 so, both? 19:07:05 nirik, Yes, please, thank you sir :-) 19:07:34 * stickster is proud at least of the fact that we are doing the proper packaging work required! 19:08:17 ok, it's on both. I had installed it on stg, but not prod yet. 19:08:26 Thanks nirik! 19:09:56 #info stickster has enabled backup_migrate on the insight.fp.o host -- so we can take snapshots for the development as needed now. 19:09:59 asrob, ^^ 19:10:02 \o/ 19:11:05 asrob, So right now, remember that snapshots should only be going one way, *except* as we get changes approved by the team as set out in the change process 19:11:32 i.e. we snapshot content back from insight.fp.o -> insight.dev.fp.o 19:11:54 I got it 19:11:55 #action stickster needs to complete https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=698590 which he will do right after this meeting 19:12:41 asrob, We still need to have a discussion on the list about whether, and how, we're going to use Features module for rolling out development. 19:12:59 * stickster has been using it some to get a feel for how it works 19:13:10 ;) 19:13:11 OK 19:13:56 asrob, I'm looking to you to drive that discussion. The goal is to get a working document that describes in simple terms how features are going to be controlled and rolled out 19:15:05 One way to do that would be to draft something on the wiki and get comments. Another way might be to simply start the discussion on the list, and put together a draft based on that. I tend to think the first is more effective, but it's completely up to you 19:16:01 ah, I see, I will create a draft page on the wiki 19:16:46 asrob, One thing you can look at for a model is the theme development for Insight 19:17:45 but we need to talk about how to organize our Features, for example: Super Insight Gallery or Phase2 Development?! 19:17:54 It seems to me we could use roughly the same model on the back end -- a git repo, with upstream releases and packaging that goes into the Infrastructure repo since a collection of features wouldn't be useful to package since it's more general 19:18:07 asrob, Sure, that's a question that the discussion can answer 19:18:39 yeah 19:18:45 #action asrob Drive discussion on logistics list on how to use Features to manage our development/deployment 19:19:18 #topic Current deployment status 19:19:44 So right now we have a number of tickets outstanding, but now that backup_migrate is in place we should be able to make quick headway on fixing most of them. 19:19:55 absolutely 19:20:46 asrob, Would you agree that we can gather/create Features (notice capital "F") post facto where we've already made fixes? 19:21:03 IOW, we don't need to block fixes for the site on our discussion about how to manage Features with development 19:21:10 +1 19:21:12 sure 19:23:09 #agreed We can proceed with fixes, and roll them into Features (with a capital "F") later without a problem 19:23:42 asrob, Do you have membership in the sysadmin-insight group now? 19:23:47 .fasinfo asrob 19:23:49 stickster: User: asrob, Name: Peter Borsa, email: peter.borsa@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-06-27, IRC Nick: asrob, Timezone: Europe/Budapest, Locale: en, Extension: 5109099, GPG key ID: , Status: active 19:23:49 stickster: I could not test FAS module on my test instance, probably I made a few mistake so I would test it on our dev. server, what do you think? 19:23:53 stickster: Approved Groups: sysadmin-insight sysadmin sysadmin-test fedorabugs packager gitfedora-insight-theme cmsadmin cla_fedora cla_done 19:23:54 stickster: yeah, I am a member 19:23:59 nifty 19:24:54 asrob, what happened when you tried to test it? 19:25:40 stickster: I could not login my username, there is not anyone else just my admin account 19:26:08 asrob, And you pointed it at which instance? FakeFAS or real FAS? And did you use the verification section to test? 19:27:24 I used FakeFAS url, no, I did not 19:27:38 asrob, Remember that FakeFAS doesn't use the same credentials as real FAS 19:27:49 And you probably have to turn on the option for trusting invalid SSL certs 19:27:50 I used this url, Location of FAS instance: https://fakefas01.fedoraproject.org/accounts 19:28:08 You want to cut off the 'https://' at the beginning 19:28:40 Also, make sure that the "trust invalid SSL certs" option is on... and ensure you can login properly at the FAS instance itself at https://fakefas01.fedoraproject.org/accounts 19:29:29 "trust invalid SSL certs", where is this? 19:29:57 asrob, it should be in the configuration page for AuthFAS settings 19:30:12 hmm, it is weird, I cannot see this 19:30:35 asrob, Do you have the latest authfas installed? 19:30:48 Should be 0.2.3-1 19:31:41 stickster: yeah, asrob@alpaca [~/insight.asrob.net/sites/all/modules/authfas]# git pull 19:31:43 Already up-to-date. 19:32:20 stickster: http://rookery9.aviary.com.s3.amazonaws.com/7874500/7874601_092d.png 19:33:01 asrob, in your /sites/all/modules/authfas, run this command: 19:33:04 cat .git/refs/heads/master 19:33:23 stickster: 86704e458d10550eaa55e9aac1d2de129f16eb5a 19:33:40 asrob, That's back a bit from current head I think 19:33:54 :( 19:34:49 asrob, do: git remote -v 19:35:03 origin git://fedorapeople.org/home/fedora/pfrields/public_git/drupal-authfas-6x.git (fetch) 19:35:05 origin git://fedorapeople.org/home/fedora/pfrields/public_git/drupal-authfas-6x.git (push) 19:35:05 It should be pointing at git.fedorahosted.org/git/drupal6-authfas 19:35:12 You're pointing at an old repo 19:35:16 oops 19:35:49 That's probably why it's not working -- the certs trusting wasn't available back when we moved that repo 19:36:19 I see, then I will clone that repo and try it again 19:36:23 OK 19:36:43 #action asrob pull current repo and try authfas locally again... should work this time 19:37:00 asrob, You can just edit .git/config and then do another pull, and I think it will work 19:37:29 You'll want to be pointing instead at: git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/drupal6-authfas.git 19:38:11 asrob, Email the list if you have any trouble and we can get it sorted out quickly 19:38:44 ah, got it, it works, thanks 19:38:48 cool 19:38:50 #topic Events calendar and GSoC 19:39:09 So this past weekend I saw this: 19:39:17 #link http://k3rnel.net/2011/04/27/gsoc-fedora-events-system-2/ <-- blog on a Fedora Events System 19:39:28 nirik, Not sure if you heard anything about this? ^^ 19:39:48 * nirik looks 19:40:14 * stickster is hesitant about custom web apps from scratch when we have a number of good frameworks already out there 19:40:22 see comments. I'm not sure Nushio' 19:40:22 I had heard of it, but not too many details. 19:40:23 oops 19:40:46 see comments. I'm not sure Nushio's last comment makes sense to me. If someone wants to build a web events system, why would you *not* leverage a known platform? 19:42:03 sounds like it might be good to get into a more realtime dialog with those folks. 19:42:42 nirik, Nushio said he would attend today's meeting to discuss -- not sure if he's around though. 19:43:21 ok. cool. 19:43:45 nirik, I suspect there is some partial work already out there in the Drupal community to do this very thing -- and it makes sense as a free software imperative to at least look at that work and build on it if possible 19:43:54 * nirik nods. 19:44:18 "Recreate from ground up" has some very distinctive risks involved 19:45:26 I notice that hiemanshu is working with Nushio -- and I *know* hiemanshu is aware of Insight and Drupal features that could be leveraged for this purpose 19:46:04 * stickster would be totally thrilled to give them access to the dev host and let them develop alongside our other work 19:47:05 #action stickster invite Nushio to logistics list as well (hiemanshu is already there IIRC) to discuss his GSoC project 19:47:13 That's all I've got for today really 19:47:16 #topic Open floor 19:47:55 stickster: I found an error when I logged in 19:47:58 stickster: "warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /home/asrob/insight.asrob.net/sites/all/modules/authfas/authfas.module on line 268." 19:48:24 asrob, Let's discuss offline after meeting then 19:48:28 okay 19:48:34 I have something. 19:48:39 nirik, Go right ahead sir! 19:48:52 herlo whipped up: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Calendar_Project 19:49:02 as requirements for a calendar server, etc. 19:49:11 I'm sure it could use more tweaking... but it's a start. 19:49:56 It's a great start -- and if Nushio's work is for a Fedora Events System, then it should take those rqeuirements into account 19:50:20 I'm not sure where else they're gathering requirements, but that's something we can ask. nirik, you're on the logistics@lists.fp.o list, correct? 19:50:24 yeah, so do add to/tweak that and see if we can get something that meets those needs. 19:50:35 not sure I am. ;) I guess I should subscribe to that one 19:51:33 nirik, Yeah, it's generally low traffic and likely of interest to you 19:51:55 #action asrob stickster visit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Calendar_Project and edit requirements as needed 19:52:11 #action nirik join logistics list for mo' betta Fedora fun 19:52:21 Anything else to cover today? 19:52:25 nothing 19:52:41 * nirik has nothing. 19:53:25 Okey doke, closing in :30 then 19:55:07 #endmeeting