14:09:17 #startmeeting APAC meeting 2011-06-01 14:09:17 Meeting started Wed Jun 1 14:09:17 2011 UTC. The chair is tuanta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:09:17 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:09:34 .fasinfo bckurera 14:09:35 bckurera: User: bckurera, Name: Buddhika Kurera, email: bckurera@gmail.com, Creation: 2010-05-03, IRC Nick: bckurera, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, Extension: 5147152, GPG key ID: , Status: active 14:09:39 bckurera: Unapproved Groups: magazine marketing web qa 14:09:41 #topic Ambassador Pinging 14:09:43 .fas izhar 14:09:44 bckurera: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_fedora cla_done freemedia ambassadors 14:09:48 .fas tuanta 14:09:48 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 14:09:50 .fas kalpurush 14:09:52 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 14:09:56 kalpurush: kalpurush 'Moniruzzaman Monir' 14:10:03 #chair bckurera KageSenshi kalpurush 14:10:03 Current chairs: KageSenshi bckurera kalpurush tuanta 14:10:47 who else are we expecting ? 14:10:49 nice to see you all again 14:11:17 will proceed folks? 14:11:33 +1 bckurera 14:11:39 hurry pls :D 14:11:39 nice to see you all here 14:11:52 should we move on? 14:11:54 \o 14:11:56 ok 14:11:59 #topic News from FAmSCo 14:12:07 any news? 14:12:17 any news on town halls? 14:12:20 kaio is not here? 14:12:25 nobody from famsco i think 14:12:30 i wasnt able to attend 14:12:40 kaio or geraard 14:12:41 next topic ? 14:12:42 * tuanta too 14:12:46 wellcome harish 14:12:47 ok next>> 14:12:51 #topic APAC plans 14:13:01 Fedora 15 Release Events! 14:13:03 kalpurush: hi! 14:13:11 my release events are comming 14:13:12 we have got two successful ones 14:13:19 there r three in Sri Lanka 14:13:21 one in Hanoi and the other in Hue 14:13:43 tomorrow I will hold the last one, in Ho Chi Minh city 14:13:50 Did a small release event last sunday .. 5 ppl turned up .. didnt quite promoted it due to a bit busy .. it ended up being a meeting for fudcon bid XD 14:13:55 great tuanta 14:14:23 understand, KageSenshi 14:14:25 I love GNOME 3 14:14:38 any idea when F15 medias will be ready ? 14:14:46 +1 bckurera 14:14:48 i've not planned for a singapore fedora 15 event yet. if it does happen, it will be in late june early july. 14:15:02 probably will create another one once theres more resources .. 14:15:05 hi harish :) 14:15:07 harish media? 14:15:11 #chair harish 14:15:11 Current chairs: KageSenshi bckurera harish kalpurush tuanta 14:15:16 bckurera: +1 on gnome 3. only need the network sharing option to be ready. 14:15:34 for me it is not that needed :D 14:16:00 I made all media ourselves 14:16:16 how tuanta? 14:16:19 bckurera: nothing has been done for media yet. i should kick start that next week. 14:16:30 cool :) 14:16:50 I have got 3 volunteers, they made 100-200 LiveCDs per release parties 14:17:05 great tuanta 14:17:16 is 64-bit media OK in general? 14:17:19 that great tuanta 14:17:23 i made a release party banner 14:17:37 it's ok harish 14:17:38 yup we can havemore 64 bits 14:17:57 we made 1/3 64-bit media 14:18:12 +1 for 64bit 14:18:15 bckurera: tuanta: i am keen make only 64-bit ones for APAC. 14:18:31 harish +1 14:18:41 i too belive 64bit will do the work 14:18:53 we can send some 32bit for ppl in need 14:18:56 if theres a way to have 32bit + 64bit in a single dvd is nicer, but 64bit works for my region i guess .. most ppl are using newer machines 14:19:02 coz we dont that have that number for 64 bits 14:19:11 s/region/country/ 14:19:19 guys 14:19:26 anyone saw openSUSE DVD 14:19:31 +1 KageSenshi 14:19:32 it is with 32 and 64 14:19:41 I saw it, bckurera 14:19:44 link? 14:19:44 using double side DVDs 14:19:58 i m afraid i dont have alink harisg 14:20:04 ok 14:20:22 but I don't need it, bckurera (OpenSuSE), I had Fedora :) 14:20:25 one DVD both side has burnt (double side DVD) 14:20:41 no I just pointing we can do something liek that if we need :D 14:21:06 but i dont see a need 14:21:13 it is costly than normal one 14:21:19 there was a mixed media spin - experimental I think - that is now not showing up for f15. 14:21:54 tomorrow I will have the biggest release party in HCM city. 14:22:05 I prepared over 200 media 14:22:19 bckurera, and we'll need to do a nice cover sleeve to fill in the gap left by the normally printed side is now data 14:22:40 +1 KageSenshi 14:22:41 (ok that sentence sounds weird) 14:22:49 yup if we doing that will need it 14:23:00 but printing on the CD is costly right? 14:23:14 i've never used a double sided DVD - what is the downside of it? flipping over the DVD to read the other side? 14:23:15 it's not much here 14:23:16 so we can have a look and decide 14:23:48 harish : if we need 32 bit one we can use one side 14:24:01 if we need 64 bit it is on the other side 14:24:10 ok, understood 14:24:47 * KageSenshi pokes kulll , sniffit :) 14:25:08 hang on dood 14:25:17 >.< 14:25:18 need to wash my hands from this chilli 14:25:36 heh 14:26:04 harish what is the amount you are going to produce media? 14:26:22 bckurera: perhaps 2000 pcs 14:26:28 nice 14:26:35 can I know the later amount? 14:26:38 F14? 14:26:48 where will they be distributed, harish? 14:27:03 i think i made 2000 as well for f14 - and the bulk was sent to LCA 14:27:06 #idea double sided DVDs for media , one side 32bit , another side 64bit 14:27:22 we have to consider FADs also 14:27:28 #info harish might produce 2000 pieces for F15 14:27:30 I noted FAD on Malaysia 14:27:32 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:KualaLumpur_2011 14:27:35 it's in the next topic 14:27:39 bckurera 14:27:43 sorry than :D 14:27:47 ok :) 14:28:09 any more media related questions ? 14:28:18 # Does getting media or swag, cost tax for you? 14:28:20 will move on 14:28:30 next topic ? 14:28:34 +1 14:28:38 # XOs delivered tuanta and the not so famous battery? ==> tuanta 14:28:50 * KageSenshi pokes tuanta 14:28:59 yes, not battery, KageSenshi :) 14:29:14 #info tuanta have yet to receive XO battery 14:29:22 ok next topic then 14:29:25 #topic FUDcon APAC Committee 14:29:31 #topic FUDCon APAC 14:29:38 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:APAC_2012 14:29:47 ok guys 14:29:58 we can talk on FUDcons :D 14:29:58 any comments on that page ? 14:30:17 * harish reading the fudcon apac page 14:30:24 i'm trying to decide whether we should do down south near singapore .. or should be done at KL 14:30:51 * tuanta reading too 14:31:01 make sure air port is near 14:31:01 advantage down south -> near singapore + near harish & gang 14:31:08 I ll be there for FUDcon for sure :D 14:31:10 international airport is near KL 14:31:18 which is more up north 14:31:27 though theres also singapore airport if we choose to go down south 14:31:39 KL -> Kuala Lumpur 14:32:21 if you guys want touristy place, theres Malacca .. though i still need to figure out the contacts for the university there to see whether they are interested to host 14:32:22 KageSenshi, your work is great 14:32:29 * tuanta still reading 14:32:44 UTM have tentatively mention their interest 14:32:53 what about 14:32:55 MMU 14:33:00 Universiti Teknologi Malaysia 14:33:02 i have visited once there 14:33:06 theres 2 MMU 14:33:11 * Kalpurush i m frm mobile so i can't join with you as usual, sry for that 14:33:15 Malacca and Cyberjaya 14:33:24 cyberjaya one 14:33:27 hurm 14:33:32 Malacca MMU has more of the law and stuff 14:33:32 southern malaysia is good for me personally - it is about 30-45 min drive from home. 14:33:33 i can ping them :) 14:33:41 IT is mostly in CYberjaya 14:34:00 sniffit, erm .. the MMU melaka FOSS groups are a bit more active i think 14:34:01 :) 14:34:14 I'd love to the idea to go to Johor by train/bus 14:34:37 we can have a Fedora bus or Fedora train coach :D 14:34:43 lol 14:35:07 +1 tuanta 14:35:15 #idea we can have a Fedora bus or Fedora train coach to Johor for FUDCon APAC 2012 14:35:26 KageSenshi, i must have missed the memo 14:35:29 GOAT perhaps? 14:35:39 one thing that might be a con with doing it south is its further away from the IT hub which is around KL .. though doing it down south might be nearer to the IT hub of singapore 14:36:06 a blue train coach with Fedora logos everywhere! 14:36:09 harish, goat ? 14:36:13 +1 KageSenshi 14:36:16 understood 14:36:17 geeks-on-a-train 14:36:17 KageSenshi, geeks on a train 14:36:21 hahaha 14:36:25 lol 14:36:26 like hoab 14:36:29 #idea KageSenshi discuss with Singapore community and arrange the best possible location 14:36:29 +1 harish 14:36:47 +1 harish 14:36:58 harish, bckurera, any idea how to reach the .sg community ? :) 14:37:00 advantage of southern malaysia is cost and proximity to singapore if you want to visit singapore 14:37:22 and i think i can galvanize the singapore community to hop over as well. 14:37:23 harish knows 14:37:28 +1 harish 14:37:41 +1 harish 14:37:41 yes harish we are waiting for u 14:37:42 :D 14:37:43 you can be a good tour guide :) 14:37:47 hehe 14:38:52 there is a university close to the western end of singapore called nanyang tech university (www.ntu.edu.sg) which is close to southern johor and we can do some dual event. 14:39:05 give me a minute : checking on utm semester breaks 14:39:14 again, you did a great work, KageSenshi 14:39:14 ntu has an active linux users' group. 14:39:42 KageSenshi 14:39:44 ah cool 14:39:45 you are great 14:39:53 err 14:39:57 KageSenshi: the page is good. we have to now agree to hold it there. 14:39:59 nope .. not grat XD 14:40:10 more work i think 14:40:21 yes more work, but it is a good start 14:40:23 main blocker right now i think is location 14:40:31 +1 harish 14:40:50 one disadvantage of doing it south for malaysian is that most active FOSS groups are up at central malaysia and north malaysia 14:40:59 KageSenshi: is the iskandar development region getting any substantial facilities for universities yet? 14:41:27 though i think that can be offsetted if we can bring some big names over 14:41:33 KageSenshi: But BTW we can reach .sg community as well 14:41:34 rught 14:41:51 harish, that one, not sure 14:42:12 ok 14:42:22 i will need to figure out who to contact :) 14:42:35 unless u already have some ? 14:43:07 i am wondering if the Johor Development Authority (or something like that) would be a good entity to contact and hopefully they could "sponsor" something. 14:43:17 KageSenshi: could wariola help? 14:43:33 who is wariola? 14:43:47 wariola seems to be quite busy lately .. not sure whether he have contacts in Johor, in Malacca, yes .. 14:43:53 tuanta, another malaysian ambassadors 14:44:08 yes, understood 14:44:11 tuanta, i know, most .my ambassador doesnt attend the meetings >.< 14:44:17 * KageSenshi stares at kulll 14:44:19 :) 14:44:23 >.< 14:44:41 kulll is also from Malaysia? 14:44:51 .fas kulll 14:44:52 btw harish , i will be in singapore next week :) 14:44:52 tuanta: kulll 'khairul anwar' 14:45:33 harish, gurdip of apiit have contacts in johor .. probably i'll poke him 14:45:45 it's good to have many ambassador to collaborate 14:45:56 I am alone in Vietnam :) 14:46:02 #idea poke Johor Development Authority / Iskandar Johor to see whether they can provide something 14:46:06 KageSenshi: good. ping me please. and visit Red Hat's office - 8 Shenton Way #10-00, Singapore 068811. Just put "068811, Singapore" into google maps and you will get the exact location. 14:46:31 harish, will do ! :D 14:46:36 KageSenshi, wrt gurdip not this week, try the next week he's being overwhelmed at the moment 14:46:39 I'm jealous, KageSenshi :P 14:46:47 tuanta, XD 14:47:01 sniffit, ok 14:47:23 hurm 14:47:31 anymore stuff we need to discuss on FUDCon ? 14:47:35 or next topic ? 14:47:56 any comments on the page ? 14:47:56 I think we should have an agreement among all of us to support KageSenshi to organize FUDCon in Malaysia 14:48:01 *wiki page 14:48:10 KageSenshi, suggest try reaching gurdip also about ACGCR 14:48:16 yup we all with you 14:48:18 acgcr ? 14:48:33 asian center of green computing and research 14:48:38 ah 14:48:39 anyone agree with me to support KageSenshi to do this? 14:48:41 at apiit? 14:48:42 +1 bckurera 14:49:02 harish, yeah they are having that green computing dept in apiit now .. 14:49:03 +1 from me to support FUDcon in Malaysia 2012. 14:49:14 harish, not in apiit but it's main committee is from apiit apparently 14:49:18 (btw i heard india want to bid too ) 14:49:26 true ? 14:49:31 KageSenshi: yes, india is bidding for nov 2011. 14:49:36 ah ok 14:49:40 plus FUDcon can push more on virtualization for green computing 14:49:55 #agreed support FUDCon in Malaysia 2012 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:APAC_2012 14:50:11 passive tie-in perhaps a potential sponsor too 14:50:37 next topic then? 14:50:40 harish, budget cycle wise, will india 2011 affect .my 2012 ? 14:51:12 2011 is this fy, 2012 is next fy, so no impact. 14:51:17 I don't think so, KageSenshi 14:51:18 ah cool 14:51:19 :) 14:51:23 +1 harish 14:51:27 good then :) 14:51:35 rh fy is 1 march to end feb year+1 14:51:47 understood 14:51:48 :D 14:52:12 ok 14:52:24 right now can i assume everyone +1 for south malaysia ? 14:52:25 i hope you all have seen maxs announcement 14:52:28 * harish searching for rahul's fudcon india 2011 page .... 14:52:35 on budjet 14:52:42 harish, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:India_2011 14:52:44 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:India_2011 14:52:51 thanks. 14:54:34 sniffit, utm semester break, does it fit with the proposed date ? 14:54:56 i've been checking, but their pdf in the side seems to only cover this year 14:55:07 KageSenshi, if based on 2011 schedule, the event will land us right smack in the middle of it 14:55:13 we should register to come to FUDCon India 2011 to learn and share more things 14:55:24 but as mentioned ... it may change over time 14:55:31 sniffit, ok 14:55:33 especially Malaysian ambassadors, KageSenshi 14:55:35 suggest pinging UTM to clarify? 14:55:40 +1 tuanta 14:55:41 sniffit, thats what i'm thinking 14:56:15 are you looking for holiday periods or something else? 14:56:19 KageSenshi, ok. might have to run through the usual suspects 14:56:43 harish, if we do it for only 2 days .. non semester break period works 14:56:43 #idea KageSenshi and Malaysian ambassadors should register to come to FUDCon India 2011 to learn and share more things 14:57:09 but for 3 days .. will need to check whether the weekday part clash with their classroom needs or something 14:57:19 though i think a 1 conference, 2 barcamp days model might work 14:57:29 a two day event over a weekend or Friday+Saturday+half-Sunday would be OK. 14:57:32 1st day -> normal conference, where we'll be using hall 14:57:50 which hopefully doesnt clash with their need 14:58:00 then 2 days barcamp on the weekends 14:58:12 which will be using the classrooms 14:58:39 tuanta, i will need funding for that i think >.< 14:59:32 ok anything else on fudcon ? .. else next topic ? 14:59:33 KageSenshi, either way, if FUDcon hits during their non-semester break it'll be good too 14:59:33 KageSenshi: funding to go to FUDcon India? 14:59:37 sure, KageSenshi, we will support you 14:59:44 harish, yep 14:59:50 yes sure 14:59:54 ok, do put it up. 14:59:59 I don't think it is a big issue 14:59:59 more manpower + larger audience 15:00:12 sniffit, yeah that is nice too 15:00:21 #idea funding KageSenshi to go to FUDcon India 15:00:34 harish, which trac should i file it on ? 15:00:50 the usual ones for fedora ambassadors 15:00:54 ok 15:00:56 famsco, I think 15:01:05 ok then :) 15:01:07 and set the regoin to APAC 15:01:08 yes, famsco 15:01:20 ok .. thanks! :D 15:01:21 s/regoin/region 15:01:27 For FUDCon? 15:01:37 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco 15:01:48 rbergeron, yep 15:01:49 * rbergeron just breaks in 15:01:53 hi rbergeron 15:01:53 tuanta, thansk 15:02:01 Normally the FUDCons have their own process for providing sponsorship. 15:02:08 After the location has been decided and finalized, 15:02:25 oh 15:02:26 the local team will have a sponsorship meeting to go through the list of people requesting sponsorship. 15:02:37 thanks, rbergeron 15:02:51 At that point, people will file tickets in a special FUDCon trac, not the famsco one. 15:02:56 rbergeron: thanks for hoping in! 15:03:02 yeah thanks! 15:03:08 Once your location is finalized, all this stuff will be clearer. 15:03:40 ok 15:03:46 rbergeron, thanks! 15:03:49 cool 15:04:00 guess we'll need to wait :) 15:04:07 ok .. almost 1 hour mark 15:04:08 Yep. 15:04:11 KageSenshi, patience is a virtue 15:04:13 yup 15:04:16 move on? 15:04:17 will hurry 15:04:20 yeap next topic 15:04:27 #topic FADs in APAC 15:04:33 quick look on other links 15:04:37 tpoics 15:04:37 in Malaysia : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:KualaLumpur_2011 15:04:46 And we like to give everyone in the region a fair shake, and make the sponsorship process clear to EVERYONE, so that everyone has an opportunity to apply during a specific timeframe. 15:04:50 i'll be confirming the venue hopefully by next week 15:04:53 that's all :) 15:05:15 thanks, rbergeron 15:05:16 harish, wondering what community arch can provide 15:05:23 thanks rbergeron 15:05:41 bckurera, tuanta , any planned FAD in ur countries ? 15:05:43 funding is always an option. speakers and swag. 15:05:50 yes I have one 15:05:52 in August 15:06:02 I have some troubles with that 15:06:07 * tuanta July or August 15:06:07 will have it soon 15:06:18 end of july 15:06:20 KageSenshi, I like the date .... 15:06:24 :) 15:06:28 harish, swags + dvds would be good enough for me .. and of course u as one of the speakers 15:06:28 or vert 1st week august 15:06:29 :) 15:06:41 bckurera, cool 15:06:47 bckurera, any wiki pages? 15:07:10 yup had one 15:07:16 but its not up to date 15:07:20 KageSenshi: speaker stuff no issues. what is more useful is hackathons etc. 15:07:40 +1 15:07:54 bckurera, link pls . .just to add into the wiki meeting wiki page :) 15:08:11 yup i ll do with a week 15:08:16 bckurera, ok :) 15:08:56 nice 15:09:06 #info RH can provide Swags/DVDs for FADs .. 15:09:22 ok anything else related to FAD? .. questions or anything? 15:09:37 topis for FAD? 15:09:44 topics for FAD? 15:09:52 put in wiki page? 15:09:57 * harish man, i am fading off 15:09:58 or u mean theme ? 15:10:03 KageSenshi: yes 15:10:14 for .MY FAD i'm thinking of GNOME3 15:10:33 hackathons to develop gnome-shell extensions etc might be nice :) 15:10:50 user tutorials .. and stuff like that 15:11:24 +1 KageSenshi 15:12:10 GNOME3/F15 new features :) 15:12:28 wrt to FAD i don't know if i should ask it here or not 15:12:37 sniffit, just ask 15:12:47