22:00:00 <rbergeron> #startmeeting F17 Alpha Go No-Go Meeting
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22:00:11 <rbergeron> #meetingname F17 Alpha Go No-Go Meeting
22:00:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f17_alpha_go_no-go_meeting'
22:00:19 <rbergeron> #topic Roll Call
22:00:33 * tflink is present
22:00:45 <rbergeron> #info tflink is here for QA
22:00:57 <rbergeron> nirik: can you rep for fesco/devel somehow ;)
22:01:09 <nirik> sure. Happy to
22:01:23 <rbergeron> nirik: and maybe rel-eng as well
22:01:24 <rbergeron> heh
22:01:49 <rbergeron> #info nirik here for fesco/devel in some way; dgilmore here for rel-eng
22:02:07 <rbergeron> #info also present: rbergeron for wranglin', brunowolff for awesomeness and helpfulness
22:02:43 <rbergeron> #topic We are Gathered to Serve a Alpha Taste Test of The Beefy Miracle, and determine if we are ready to ship said Holiness.
22:02:49 <rbergeron> A few reminders:
22:03:09 <rbergeron> #info Looking have the blocker list clear: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
22:03:17 <rbergeron> #info Test Matrices need to be complete
22:03:30 <rbergeron> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Install
22:03:44 <rbergeron> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Desktop
22:03:57 <rbergeron> #info This will determine if release criteria have been met, if we can ship.
22:04:04 <rbergeron> Questions or comments or reminders of what i've forgotten?
22:04:14 * rbergeron has a splitting headache this afternoon :(
22:05:00 <rbergeron> Yes? No? /me shall move on then
22:05:03 <nirik> sorry to hear it. ;(
22:05:07 <rbergeron> #topic Release Blocker Review
22:05:16 <rbergeron> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
22:05:17 <adamw> Yo
22:05:19 <rbergeron> yo
22:05:24 * adamw walking to dentist
22:05:49 <rbergeron> We currently have two proposed blockers. One by one?
22:05:50 <tflink> OK, I just moved one of the remaining blockers to rejected because it had enough votes for no alpha blocker
22:05:56 <rbergeron> okay, thank you
22:06:13 <tflink> we have one remaining alpha blocker that only has -2 alpha blocker votes
22:06:16 <rbergeron> tflink: can you walk us through the other one then since I rely on the crutch of the webpage?
22:06:23 <rbergeron> wikipage
22:06:40 <tflink> yeah, grabbing the link
22:06:58 <tflink> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796261
22:06:59 <rbergeron> #chair tflink
22:06:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: rbergeron tflink
22:07:03 <tflink> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796261
22:07:09 <rbergeron> #chair dgilmore nirik brunowolff
22:07:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: brunowolff dgilmore nirik rbergeron tflink
22:07:18 <tflink> #info Bootloader not installed? (F17 Alpha RC4)
22:07:49 <tflink> while we're still not 100% sure what's going on here, it does seem to be an isolated incident
22:08:12 <tflink> we have several positive results in contrast to the one negative result
22:08:30 <adamw> My best guess is some kind of issue with jreznik's system firmware
22:08:46 <tflink> adam and I are -1 alpha blocker
22:08:53 * rbergeron just -1'd as well, if we can't get other successful reproductions it seems like hardware.
22:09:05 <rbergeron> I know it's not user related, fo sho. :)
22:09:12 * dgilmore is -1 to blocker
22:09:38 * nirik is -1 as well.
22:09:39 <adamw> That's enough votes I guess
22:09:41 <rbergeron> okay, looks like that's enough votes?
22:09:44 <brunowolff> -1 given it's seems to be isolated
22:09:45 <tflink> proposed #agreed - 796261 - RejectedBlocker - This seems to be an isolated incident since we have several positive results and only the one negative
22:09:55 <rbergeron> +1
22:10:00 <brunowolff> +1
22:10:15 <dgilmore> +1
22:10:23 <jsmith> WORKSFORME
22:10:30 <tflink> #agreed - 796261 - RejectedBlocker - This seems to be an isolated incident since we have several positive results and only the one negative
22:10:38 <adamw> There's some other highly visible bugs - broken sound by default, crash when installinng alongside just about any non-rh distro - but I wouldn't rate them alpha blockers
22:10:44 <rbergeron> #info No more remaining blockers for F17 alpha.
22:10:52 <rbergeron> Adamw: I assume those are getting commonbugged.
22:10:57 <rbergeron> :)
22:11:02 <rbergeron> (I know you guys are awesome like that.)
22:11:27 <adamw> Well, hard to commonbug when we don't know what the bug is
22:11:30 <tflink> we should have a new build of livecd-tools to fix most of the USB issues before Alpha is actually release
22:11:36 <adamw> But if we figure that out then yeah
22:11:37 <rbergeron> commonproblemmed
22:11:38 <rbergeron> LOL
22:12:00 <rbergeron> okay. well, I think we have time between now and then. And adamw will have really clean teeth.
22:12:04 <rbergeron> #topic Test Matrices
22:12:11 <adamw> Right, there's some livecd-tools issues we can fix.
22:12:19 <rbergeron> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Install
22:12:22 <rbergeron> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Desktop
22:12:55 <tflink> there are a couple of remaining failures on test cases marked for alpha
22:13:07 <tflink> but they're related to the creation of usb media
22:13:17 <adamw> I've checked through all those and they aren't blockers
22:13:34 <tflink> the issue is not with Alpha, but with livecd-tools and we should have a new build of that in the next couple of days
22:13:53 <dgilmore> ok
22:13:57 <rbergeron> #info remaining failures on test cases for alpha are not blockers (related to creation of usb media; issue is with livecd-tools and not alpha itself, should have a new build in the next few days)
22:13:57 <adamw> Right, and really, enough methods work that we're okay for alpha
22:14:06 <satellit_> adamw: liveusb-creator in f17 HD install wrote to a LIVE usb sucessfully It boots to F17 desktop live user gnome 3.3.5 but that test is not on matrix either. the Netinstall from RC4 dd USB complted just now and is in firstboot
22:14:11 <adamw> You can get an install from usb, and an efi install
22:14:22 <adamw> There's just some paths that fail
22:15:02 <rbergeron> adamw, tflink: if you guys are kosher with it, i trust you.
22:15:37 <adamw> Sat: that's what the livecd-tools test should be for so mark it as a pas
22:15:51 <rbergeron> Is everyone kosher with the completeness of the test matrices, given the livecd-tools fix coming?
22:15:55 <tflink> yep
22:15:58 <satellit_> this was graphical though
22:16:00 * nirik nods.
22:16:12 <dgilmore> si amiga
22:16:32 <rbergeron> #agreed Test Matrices are acceptably complete, given livecd-tools fix coming, things look great and we have many other install methods working properly.
22:17:05 <rbergeron> #topic The Hot Dog Looks Tasty and Ready. Can we ship F17 Alpha?
22:17:14 <rbergeron> (I don't think i missed anything.)
22:17:50 * rbergeron proposes that all criteria for shipping is met (no blockers; matrices complete), so, let's ship it on Tuesday.
22:17:56 <brunowolff> +1
22:18:07 <tflink> +1
22:18:16 <dgilmore> +1
22:18:19 <nirik> +1
22:19:40 * rbergeron assumes that QA, rel-eng, devel are all prepared to ship on Tuesday?
22:19:51 <tflink> QA is
22:20:18 <satellit_> adamw test added
22:20:45 <rbergeron> #agreed All criteria for shipping F17 alpha are met; QA, rel-eng, devel are prepared to ship on tuesday.
22:20:46 <dgilmore> rbergeron: releng will be fine
22:20:58 <adamw> Ack
22:21:23 <rbergeron> #agreed F17 Alpha RC4 is accepted as Alpha!
22:21:29 <brunowolff> Yeah!
22:21:31 <rbergeron> ALPHA ON TIME OMG
22:21:36 <rbergeron> oh wait did i say that out loud
22:21:56 * rbergeron hands it to the QA guys for doing early testing and rel-eng for helping out with early composes
22:21:59 <tflink> release the hot dogs!
22:22:17 <rbergeron> #info Thanks to everyone for an on-time Alpha release, you rock! RELEASE THE HOT DOGS!
22:22:34 <rbergeron> #action rbergeron to send out GOLD announcement and meeting logs
22:22:40 <rbergeron> #topic Any other business?
22:22:43 <brunowolff> Doing gcc 4.7 early also helped.
22:22:54 <rbergeron> brunowolff: indeed
22:22:59 <rbergeron> by a zillion miles
22:23:17 <rbergeron> i think the earlier stuff like that lands, the far better off we wind up being.
22:23:28 * rbergeron sets fuse for one minute
22:23:56 * dgilmore runs
22:24:24 <rbergeron> you guys rock. Thanks for coming ;)
22:24:44 <rbergeron> adamw: enjoy the dentist ;D
22:24:46 <nirik> thanks for all the hard work everyone.
22:24:50 <rbergeron> #endmeeting