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#fedora-meeting-1: future-of-release-names
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Meeting started by jreznik at 17:01:43 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-06-15/future-of-release-names.2012-06-15-17.01.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* roll call  (jreznik, 17:02:22)
  * EvilBob Sparks N3LRX rbergeron sagitter MarkDude rrix mizmo_ smooge
    heavensmile_ brunowolff present  (jreznik, 17:05:17)
  * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/results/poll-rel-names
    (jreznik, 17:09:26)

* the poll https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/results/poll-rel-names
  (jreznik, 17:13:53)
  * people clearly want to keep names (a conclusion from the poll)
    (jreznik, 17:23:16)
  * LINK: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/Jono%20Cm.jpg funny names got
    Fedora to the forefront of Ubuntu- thats Jono Bacon saluting the
    Beefy Miracle in costume  (MarkDude, 17:37:19)

* Pros and cons of the current naming process  (gholms, 17:45:34)
  * con: difficult to come up with a name that follows the "is a" rules
    (gholms, 17:46:06)
  * con:  reading the names of releases in a list, they are all over the
    place and pretty weird  (gholms, 17:46:33)
  * pro: has a good history and legacy in the project  (gholms,
    17:46:39)
  * con: Naming costs Redhat legal time  (gholms, 17:46:52)
  * con: the people who were involved in the original history of the
    naming process have completely disengaged and admitted its gone to
    far  (gholms, 17:47:20)
  * pro: it's fun and makes people participants of release naming
    process  (gholms, 17:47:33)
  * pro: can be a good way to engage new contributors  (gholms,
    17:47:39)
  * con: Naming costs time of people needed to run election  (gholms,
    17:47:46)
  * con: making fedora's name into a joke makes people think that fedora
    is a joke  (mizmo, 17:48:13)
  * con: its an easy way to off-put new contributors when the opaque 'is
    a' process stumps them and their contrbution is rejected  (gholms,
    17:48:31)
  * con: the pool of names that would likely pass legal muster is
    ever-shrinking - everyone seems to have a business with an apple app
    with names  (rbergeron, 17:48:35)
  * pro: its a start of a talk with others- we vote on silly names- that
    opens up to talk of serious votes- like boards- and real VOICE.
    It's a foot in the door.  (gholms, 17:49:04)
  * Can be used for theming  (gholms, 17:49:22)
  * potential new contribs are excited at having input on names - and
    not being told everything  (MarkDude, 17:49:37)
  * con: names like 'sulphur' can't be used for theming  (mizmo,
    17:50:00)
  * con: release name can offend people from different cultures/sense of
    humor etc.  (jreznik, 17:52:40)
  * con taking away my VOICE is not good mojo  (MarkDude, 17:54:09)
  * IDEA: Collect proposals of alternative release-naming schemes
    (gholms, 17:55:57)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Suggestions_for_Fedora_Codename_Theme
    (mizmo, 17:56:06)
  * Current policy is that the design team may use the release name as
    inspiration, but is not required to do so  (gholms, 18:01:33)
  * - it is IMPOSSIBLE to make 100% of people happy- it CANT be done
    (MarkDude, 18:03:35)
  * IDEA: Change range voting from 0..N to -N/2..N/2, default to 0
    (gholms, 18:03:59)
  * Elealnor Roosevelt- No one can make you feel inferior- --- without
    yourslef  (MarkDude, 18:04:55)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Suggestions_for_Fedora_Codename_Theme
    <= some real work and research was put into this, could we not get
    something productive from this?  (mizmo, 18:06:50)
  * IDEA: Ask the board to ponder this list of pros and cons  (gholms,
    18:17:53)
  * IDEA: Names with more relation to Fedora's foundations  (gholms,
    18:20:25)
  * prepare aganda for next meeting based on Board and ml discussion
    (jreznik, 18:26:47)

Meeting ended at 18:27:36 UTC.




Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* MarkDude (139)
* jreznik (92)
* mizmo (88)
* Sparks (65)
* EvilBob (59)
* rdieter (41)
* inode0 (35)
* gholms (31)
* rbergeron (27)
* brunowolff (20)
* pjones (20)
* sekhmet (18)
* mizmo_ (13)
* heavensmile_ (12)
* jsmith (10)
* smooge (8)
* N3LRX (7)
* zodbot (6)
* bcotton (6)
* thm (6)
* jwb (6)
* misc (5)
* spevack_ (4)
* chuckf (4)
* sagitter (1)
* rrix (1)
* vwbusguy (1)
* sreich (1)




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