16:08:37 <abadger1999> #startmeeting Fedora Packaging Committee
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16:08:46 <abadger1999> #meetingname fpc
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16:08:51 <abadger1999> #topic roll call
16:09:00 <abadger1999> Are there enough of us for quorum this week?
16:09:04 * racor is here
16:09:47 <abadger1999> rdieter, tibbs, Rathann, spot, SmootherFrOgZ: any of you here?
16:09:49 * geppetto is here
16:10:49 <Rathann> here
16:12:05 * abadger1999 will wait until 15 after for one more
16:12:38 <abadger1999> Might as well do open floor while we wait
16:12:46 <abadger1999> #topic Open Floor
16:12:56 <abadger1999> did anyone have anything to bring up?
16:13:47 * abadger1999 knows tomspur is here and wonders if he wants to advertise the python2/python3 thread
16:15:09 <abadger1999> That thread is http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2012-July/008550.html for anyone who hasn't seen it
16:16:12 <Rathann> the opening post seems reasonable
16:16:50 <abadger1999> <nod>
16:17:03 <abadger1999> I don't see it as having to be done anytime in the next year ( or maybe even two)
16:17:13 <Rathann> sure
16:17:31 <abadger1999> But I could see us having a flag day to rename from python-foo to python2-foo with Virtual Provides at any time.
16:18:15 <geppetto> I don't see the point until python3 is python
16:18:26 <abadger1999> I kinda think it should go through the Feature Process and the python sig (such as it is) though, since it requires coordination with a lot of maintainers.
16:19:18 <Rathann> yeah, looks like something to consider when python3 as default appears on the horizon
16:19:20 <abadger1999> geppetto: Yeah, to coordinate as one release.  I don't have a problem with putting it off until then.
16:19:37 <abadger1999> I don't care if we do it at some earlier date... just so long as it's a flag day event.
16:19:49 <geppetto> I mean … I guess we could rename everythign now to be either python2 or python3 and not just python … but, meh.
16:22:35 <abadger1999> <nod>
16:23:49 <abadger1999> tomspur: From our informal and non-quorum disucssion here, I think you could say we're not in a hurry to implement this until python3 actually is the default.  We'd like consistency between module packages.  And we'd like this to be coordinated among python module packagers.
16:23:57 <abadger1999> :-)
16:24:06 <abadger1999> Looks like we're not going to get quorum today.
16:24:16 <abadger1999> So I'll close out unless anyone else has something.
16:25:11 <abadger1999> #endmeeting