20:02:26 <shaiton> #startmeeting FUDCon EMEA 2012
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20:02:36 <shaiton> #meetingname FUDCon EMEA Paris
20:02:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_emea_paris'
20:02:48 <shaiton> #chair misc rbergeron pingou
20:02:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: misc pingou rbergeron shaiton
20:03:11 <misc> hi
20:03:19 <shaiton> As told Monday, this is a Fuding Approval Meeting
20:03:30 <shaiton> few links
20:03:42 <shaiton> https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/query?milestone=Paris+2012%3A+Travel+Subsidies+Requested&group=status
20:04:05 <shaiton> I forgot to update the gdoc :( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0An1TeHVqOhP6dHAyX1ZYUUtFc2c1VnJhaHRJam9sZGc#gid=0
20:05:16 <misc> bad kevin :)
20:05:27 <shaiton> doing that in 5 minutes
20:11:15 <shaiton> misc: how long do we plan this one? 1h30?
20:13:20 <shaiton> if I am right we still have 10 tickets to handle
20:13:39 <shaiton> #topic Funding Requests
20:14:47 <misc> 1h
20:14:56 <misc> I am not sure i can survive that long
20:15:03 <shaiton> alright, let's go
20:15:25 <shaiton> #info meeting is planned for 1h
20:15:39 <shaiton> #info 10 requests to look at
20:16:11 <shaiton> #info 3456EUR left after other budget things accounted for
20:17:33 <misc> first case ?
20:17:40 <shaiton> #topic Ticket #337 - aarapov - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/337
20:17:51 <shaiton> misc which one? (still available, that is)
20:18:35 <shaiton> Ok, so aarapov replied at our request
20:19:28 <shaiton> #info Anton is looking for a subsidy of $150 for hotel (shared), approx. $200 for flight
20:19:38 <shaiton> do you agree guys?
20:20:02 <misc> let me see the ticket
20:20:42 <misc> I would agree, yep
20:20:54 <shaiton> date are still approx, and we need more precision on the flight
20:21:07 <shaiton> but I am +1 for 350$
20:21:30 <shaiton> (we have yet more requests for amba than for devel)
20:22:38 <misc> so ok, next one ?
20:22:42 <shaiton> ok
20:23:00 <misc> #agreed aarapov request is granted
20:23:10 <misc> mhhh, wrong command ?
20:23:17 <misc> #info aarapov request is granted
20:23:21 <shaiton> #agreed Funding rooms + transportation up to $350, #ticket 337
20:23:25 <shaiton> héhé
20:24:57 <shaiton> #topic ticket #342 - bckurera - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/342
20:25:23 <shaiton> this is an internationnal one, we skipped this one last time
20:25:53 <shaiton> #info bckurera is comming from APAC
20:26:11 <misc> ouch
20:26:30 <shaiton> I think better to handle the EMEA ones before
20:26:41 <shaiton> let's see later if we have the budget and the time
20:26:45 <misc> ok
20:27:19 <shaiton> #topic ticket #343 - Nestos - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/343
20:27:58 <shaiton> #info nestos is asking for travel and hotel, about 345€
20:29:16 <misc> a total of 465
20:29:21 <shaiton> why?
20:29:24 <misc> and at least 265
20:29:34 <misc> "That makes a total of 571$ (or 465€) I need everything covered (airplane tickets and hotel). "
20:30:03 <shaiton> nop, he missunderstand the lodging...
20:30:12 <shaiton> rooms would be shared, 50% off
20:30:48 <shaiton> so it's 122€ + the plan ticket
20:31:07 <misc> ok
20:31:43 <misc> I would say ~ 300 ?
20:31:51 <misc> so we can keep a little bit for other too
20:32:10 <shaiton> I am +1 for 280€, we could see later if we still have more budget? (that would be approx 80€ for him)
20:32:16 <shaiton> yep
20:33:12 <shaiton> ok for 300
20:33:12 <misc> ok, agreed
20:33:17 <shaiton> hum?
20:33:27 <shaiton> I were to slow sorry
20:34:39 <shaiton> so misc, agreed to 300?
20:34:42 <misc> yup
20:34:45 <shaiton> ok
20:34:49 <shaiton> #agreed Funding rooms + transportation up to 300€, #ticket 343
20:35:46 <shaiton> #topic ticket #345 - dimitrisglaros - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/345
20:36:30 <misc> mhh another amba
20:36:47 <shaiton> #info dimitris is asking for lodging + transportation, at least 200€
20:37:14 <shaiton> yes, too many amba..
20:37:49 <misc> for 200, yep
20:38:17 <shaiton> agreed
20:38:48 <shaiton> #agreed Funding rooms + transportation up to 200€, #ticket 345
20:39:38 <shaiton> #topic ticket #346 - martix - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/346
20:40:54 <misc> ok for me
20:41:13 <shaiton> #info martix is asking for lodging  4 nights and transportation. about 122+140= 262€
20:41:20 <shaiton> am I correct misc ?
20:41:22 <shaiton> :)
20:41:52 <shaiton> oops, it's 4 nights= more expensive
20:42:38 <shaiton> that's 81€ more (alone in this room?)
20:43:32 <misc> no, 3 night
20:43:44 <misc> mhh no 4
20:44:46 <misc> anyway, I think that's ok
20:44:54 <shaiton> ok
20:44:56 <misc> provided he share the room, of course
20:45:23 <shaiton> that won't be possible for the 15th (or we find someone else to share with)
20:46:05 <misc> mhh
20:46:23 <misc> how much does it change for the price ?
20:46:49 <shaiton> it's 81€ per night
20:46:57 <misc> per room ?
20:47:01 <shaiton> for the room
20:47:09 <shaiton> yes, independent of the bed number
20:47:18 <shaiton> numbers
20:47:27 <misc> so that 81 + 81/2*3 = transportation
20:47:36 <misc> +
20:47:48 <shaiton> yes, that's about 340€
20:47:54 <misc> mhh
20:47:58 <shaiton> in total with the transportation
20:48:39 <shaiton> I am doing calculations... that could be ok
20:49:16 <misc> I would be ok since he has a plan
20:50:25 <shaiton> ok
20:50:51 <shaiton> so doing that for 340€? (he needs full subsidies)
20:51:28 <misc> yup
20:51:37 <shaiton> #agreed Funding rooms (4 nights, see if the 4th would be shared)+ transportation up to 340€, #ticket 346
20:52:10 <shaiton> #topic ticket #348 - Misaakidis - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/348
20:52:36 <shaiton> #info Misaakidis is asking for about 290€
20:52:38 <Prometheas> .fas misaakidis
20:52:39 <zodbot> Prometheas: misaakidis 'Marios Isaakidis' <misaakidis@yahoo.gr>
20:53:10 <shaiton> Hi Prometheas
20:53:29 <Prometheas> hello everybody
20:53:44 <Prometheas> hopefully i made it on time
20:53:44 <misc> shaiton: the plan is not that well defined :/
20:54:19 <shaiton> I think he will be active in many areas
20:54:47 <shaiton> but yeah, "raspberry" is not THE plan:p
20:55:23 <shaiton> I would say ok for 220 or 250€ and see later
20:55:35 <shaiton> that would be the hotel plus a bit of transportation
20:56:02 <misc> mhhh
20:56:19 <Prometheas> 160E just for the flight will be ok
20:56:32 <misc> ok for the flight, and we revisit later ?
20:57:00 <Prometheas> just for the flight, i have a friend there who could host me
20:57:22 <misc> ok then
20:57:41 <shaiton> Prometheas: that's nice, so we agree for that. Tell us if your lodging plan goes bad
20:57:56 <Prometheas> thank you shaiton and misc
20:58:16 <Prometheas> shaiton: I will try to be active in many areas if it is possible
20:58:33 <shaiton> #agreed Funding transportation for Misaakidis/Prometheas up to 160€,  #ticket 348
20:58:51 <shaiton> Prometheas: tel us if the transportation costs change
20:59:12 <shaiton> #topic ticket #349 - robyduck - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/349
21:00:08 <shaiton> #info robyduck is asking for hotel and transportation
21:00:28 <shaiton> I've exchanged a lot with him, and I will host him
21:00:33 <shaiton> so it's ok for the lodging
21:00:46 <shaiton> I am +1 for the transportation (he wrote 60€)
21:00:56 <misc> that's cheap, ok for me too
21:01:10 <shaiton> I am checking the ticket ^^
21:01:27 <shaiton> he wrote $75 which is about 60E
21:01:30 <shaiton> agreed
21:02:16 <shaiton> #agreed Funding transportation for robyduck (asked for $75),  #ticket 349
21:02:59 <shaiton> #action shaiton to confirm that he will host robyduck
21:03:00 <shaiton> next
21:03:32 <shaiton> #topic ticket #351 - Nikos - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/351
21:05:03 <shaiton> #info Nikos is asking for $422 at least ($273 for the plane + the hotel)
21:05:48 <shaiton> but the hotel is  150USD for the shared room
21:06:02 <shaiton> so he is asking for more than necessary :)
21:06:17 <shaiton> Our info are clearly not clear ;)
21:06:55 <misc> so that would be less ?
21:07:22 <shaiton> could you do the addition for me? (checking is better..)
21:07:47 <shaiton> I would say that he is asking for 150USD (hotel) + 273USD (plane)
21:08:01 <shaiton> which is .. hum
21:08:06 * shaiton needs to sleep
21:08:53 <misc> 423$
21:09:04 <shaiton> what he said, so he was right ;)
21:09:22 <misc> how many people do we have left, how many on the budget ?
21:09:25 <shaiton> he has no really clear plan
21:09:35 <shaiton> it's more about learning and amba stuff
21:09:53 <shaiton> in fact he asked for at least 423 which is the total cost
21:10:13 <shaiton> (if he share the room)
21:10:53 <misc> i would revisit if the reis budget left
21:10:56 <misc> there is
21:10:58 <shaiton> (info 2 tickets left)
21:11:03 <shaiton> ok
21:11:43 <shaiton> #info will revisit after budget update (as he is asking for full subsidies, $423)
21:12:03 <shaiton> #topic ticket #352 - fab - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/352
21:12:48 <shaiton> #info fab is asking for hotel (150USD) and transportation (165USD)
21:13:13 <shaiton> it's like 250€
21:13:46 <misc> ok for me, seems he has a plan
21:14:00 <shaiton> yep
21:14:42 <shaiton> #agreed Funding transportation and hotel for fab, up to 315USD,  #ticket 352
21:14:59 <shaiton> #topic ticket #353 - thunderbirdtr - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/353
21:15:08 <shaiton> this ticket is... light
21:15:17 <shaiton> he has no plan
21:15:20 <shaiton> ;)
21:15:33 <shaiton> oh, there are comments
21:15:36 * shaiton reading
21:16:52 <misc> mhhh
21:18:03 <shaiton> I think we can fund hotel (122EUR) + transportation (270EUR) but I would prefer him writting a bit more on the ticket before..
21:18:14 <shaiton> Just telling what he does what he will do..
21:18:19 <shaiton> Even if it's only amba
21:18:55 <misc> yup
21:19:45 <shaiton> #action thunderbirdtr please update your ticket and give us some clues about why being at the FUDCon would help the Fedora Project and You
21:19:52 <shaiton> check the other tickets.. ;)
21:20:20 <misc> so, how much budget is left ?
21:20:22 <shaiton> and we will most probably agree to fund your hotel + transportation
21:20:34 <shaiton> hum
21:20:41 <shaiton> what have we agreed tonight? :)
21:20:59 <shaiton> reading backlog..
21:23:37 <shaiton> about 1780€ tonight
21:24:46 <shaiton> we should have left 1676€. That's a lot :D
21:24:47 <misc> out of 3400
21:24:56 <shaiton> if my sheet is correct
21:25:03 <misc> a lot, but sill not enough to cover everyone left
21:25:08 <shaiton> #action shaiton to update the speadsheet
21:25:10 <misc> ( and not enough to have a extra )
21:25:14 <shaiton> sure
21:25:46 <misc> we had to look at https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/342
21:26:06 <shaiton> yes, that's the only abroad query
21:26:06 <misc> and 353
21:26:45 <shaiton> 353 should be agreed. He just needs to write us few words... according to the original request
21:27:13 <shaiton> for 342, it's really expensive.
21:27:21 <misc> so that let us 1200 e
21:27:37 <shaiton> which does not work for 342
21:28:06 <misc> well, he speak of 450$ of hotel
21:28:07 <shaiton> and we should keep few coins aside if the plan tickets inscrease for example (for the next days)
21:28:10 <misc> that's wrong
21:28:26 <shaiton> oh yes it's 150USD
21:28:45 <shaiton> let's see next week for the last ones
21:29:05 <shaiton> actually which is really important is to book the rooms
21:29:42 <shaiton> We will probably book the block of sponsored rooms, right? That should be easier.
21:30:08 <misc> we can cancel them later ?
21:30:14 <shaiton> I would love having rbergeron agreeing on that, but she should be eating a birthday cake actually :p
21:30:24 <shaiton> misc: yes, freely without any charge
21:30:59 <shaiton> not sure how we can do that for them, we don't have a credit card on Borsalinux-Fr
21:31:51 <misc> shaiton: she is in another meeting, iirc
21:31:59 <shaiton> #topic General info
21:32:03 <shaiton> ok
21:32:12 <misc> ( doing awful pun, in fact, even by my personal standard )
21:32:23 <shaiton> #info We need to book the hotel before September, that's... Tomorrow
21:32:25 <shaiton> !
21:32:44 <shaiton> ok, will catch her later
21:32:56 <shaiton> closing now, if no questions
21:33:04 <misc> yup
21:33:14 <shaiton> oh, the Go/No-Go meeting, missed that :(
21:33:18 <shaiton> #endmeeting