20:00:52 #startmeeting Fedora ARM weekly status meeting 20:00:52 Meeting started Wed Mar 13 20:00:52 2013 UTC. The chair is pwhalen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:52 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:52 #chair pwhalen jonmasters bconoboy ctyler pbrobinson dgilmore 20:00:52 Current chairs: bconoboy ctyler dgilmore jonmasters pbrobinson pwhalen 20:00:58 .fas pwhalen 20:00:59 .fas blc@ 20:00:59 pwhalen: pwhalen 'Paul Whalen' 20:01:01 bconoboy: blc '' 20:01:03 afternoon everyone 20:01:06 .fas dmarlin 20:01:07 dmarlin: dmarlin 'David A. Marlin' 20:01:37 * masta looks in 20:02:54 * ahs3 makes more coffee 20:03:09 .fas ahs3 20:03:10 ahs3: ahs3 'Al Stone' 20:03:45 #topic 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting 20:04:07 #info - INPROGRESS - pbrobinson/bconoboy investigating tog-pegasus - testsuite hangs, needs a BZ filed 20:04:37 #info - INPROGRESS - bconoboy and dmarlin to do before/after patchify builds on critical path packages to demonstrate safety - Patches posted to the list for feedback 20:04:45 .fas jonmasters 20:04:46 jonmasters: jcm 'Jon Masters' 20:05:00 #info - bconoboy to write fesco ticket (waiting on package analysis) 20:05:12 #info - COMPLETE - jonmasters to followup with what Debian and OpenSuSE did for automated patching - They did not automate patching. 20:05:54 #info - INPROGRESS - jonmasters to reply to the fedora list with his dtb idea 20:06:01 http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-03-06/fedora-meeting-1.2013-03-06-21.00.html 20:06:11 ^&^ last weeks meeting minutes for action items ^^ 20:06:31 thanks 20:06:49 .fas oatley 20:06:50 oatley: oatley 'Andrew Oatley-Willis' 20:06:56 anything folks would like to discuss there? 20:07:36 ok, moving forward then.. 20:07:41 ok so the big thing is the patchify 20:08:00 we have patching on todays agenda, so perhaps we'll come to it then 20:08:21 we branched so that changed things and I think the engineering meeting is/was today or yesterday, right? 20:08:30 ok ok, sry 20:08:39 fesco was today 20:08:54 #topic 1) Problem Packages 20:09:31 Peter's a little tied up, is anyone else aware of our current blockers? 20:09:42 java is still ongoing 20:10:47 the stats look much better today 20:11:38 I assume tog-pegasus, java remain as the top blockers (that was the case last week) 20:13:18 #info problem packages - tog-pegasus, java, python-pillow 20:14:18 Peter mentions python-pillow is holding back quite a bit, but is working on it and should have it fixed this evening (and patched for aarch64?) 20:15:35 anything else? 20:15:54 * jonmasters is in a meeting, reading this, sorry about lag 20:16:54 ok, moving on then .. 20:17:04 #topic 2) Aarch64 patching 20:17:55 not sure what the status here is, anyone able to update? 20:18:57 well, my apologies for not being able to attend last week -- the script for generating patches is my fault :) 20:19:19 looks like msalter isn't here to comment 20:19:35 bconoboy: do we have a plan yet? 20:20:10 oh, patching. doh. 20:20:20 :) 20:20:23 I sent patches to pbrobinson and dgilmore. Waiting for reply. 20:21:50 (EOM) 20:21:50 #info bconoboy sent aarch64 patches to pbrobinson and dgilmore for feedback. 20:21:56 * ahs3 will start another package scan this evening (found a couple of possible bugs in patchify) 20:22:09 #action pbrobinson/dgilmore to provide feedback on aarch64 patches 20:23:57 next? 20:24:01 any interest in some of the metrics? 20:24:07 ahs3: yes please 20:24:37 ahs3, did you want to send it to the list? I'll add an action item 20:25:14 i can send to the list, too. just a couple of quick ones: 2459 packages have config.{sub,guess} in them (of > 13K packages) 20:25:51 #action ahs3 to do another package scan this evening for aarch64 patching, send to the list for review 20:25:59 the script generates patches for 1228 (which is a bit low, hence running it again) 20:26:19 467 of those with config.* have already been fixed upstream 20:27:05 the weird number is that there are 620 dead packages 20:27:46 (weird == i was surprised it was that big) 20:28:13 ahs3, thanks, any thoughts on this, or shall we move on ? 20:28:42 pwhalen: i've done enough damage. let's move on. 20:28:51 #topic 3) Creating test candidate images for F19 20:29:38 dgilmore, are you around to give us an update as to where are, and what the plan is? 20:30:40 he wasnt sure if he would be here, so perhaps we can discuss this one on the list. 20:31:24 #topic 4) Release Criteria - changes required for ARM 20:31:48 not sure if anyone had a moment to review the re-write of the release criteria 20:32:27 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_alpha_criteria_sandbox 20:33:00 at the qa meeting this week we discussed some of the areas that are challenges for ARM. 20:33:12 I scanned it... is the blocker desktop still the biggest issue for arm? 20:33:47 1) release blocking desktop is defined as GNOME and KDE - we have been using XFCE for ours. 20:34:17 it was discussed and the suggestion was it was a FESCo decision and should be included in the PA proposal 20:35:02 2) All criteria surrounding the installer - altering the wording to be more arm friendly then it exists now. 20:35:59 the consensus there was that the criteria wouldnt be changed until arm was promoted to PA. 20:36:16 wouldnt/shouldnt 20:36:48 any thoughts? 20:37:07 * jonmasters needs to think some more - sorry, in a meeting 20:39:21 I'll look at the language surrounding the installer, but its a little ambiguous (imo) 20:39:45 ok, moving on then I guess. 20:40:11 #topic 5) Open Floor 20:40:44 anything else for today ? 20:41:02 oh, if you like a status update on more machines in phx2... 20:41:15 nirik, sure! thanks 20:41:17 we have the networks setup now, just trying to get the chassis on the right lans 20:41:26 once that happens we can install and add them in. 20:41:54 I think dgilmore was taking about adding 24 more to current setup, then have some for releng/qa and some for primary arch builders. 20:42:20 excellent 20:42:56 thanks for the update 20:43:02 anyhow, will provide more info as we know it. ;) 20:43:15 great 20:43:27 anything else for today? 20:44:34 thanks all! 20:44:36 #endmeeting