20:00:37 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM weekly status meeting 20:00:37 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 22 20:00:37 2013 UTC. The chair is pwhalen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:37 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:37 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen jonmasters bconoboy ctyler pbrobinson dgilmore dmarlin masta j_dulaney msalter ahs3 agreene jcapik ddd 20:00:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: agreene ahs3 bconoboy ctyler ddd dgilmore dmarlin j_dulaney jcapik jonmasters masta msalter pbrobinson pwhalen 20:00:47 <pwhalen> good afternoon all 20:00:52 <pwhalen> .fas pwhalen 20:00:53 <zodbot> pwhalen: pwhalen 'Paul Whalen' <pwhalen@redhat.com> 20:00:54 <whenry> hi 20:01:04 <jonmasters_> .fas jonmasters 20:01:05 <jonmasters_> good afternoon Mr. Whalen! 20:01:07 <zodbot> jonmasters_: jcm 'Jon Masters' <jonathan@jonmasters.org> 20:01:07 <bconoboy> .fas blc@ 20:01:08 <jonmasters_> (done in my best elementary school voice) 20:01:10 <zodbot> bconoboy: blc '' <blc@redhat.com> 20:01:57 <j_dulaney> hellomynameis jdulaney 20:02:08 <j_dulaney> .hellomynameis jdulaney 20:02:10 <zodbot> j_dulaney: jdulaney 'John Dulaney' <j_dulaney@live.com> 20:02:39 <pwhalen> #topic 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting 20:02:39 <pwhalen> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-15/fedora-meeting-1.2013-05-15-20.18.html 20:02:46 <jcapik> .fas jcapik 20:02:46 <zodbot> jcapik: jcapik 'Jaromír Cápík' <jcapik@redhat.com> 20:02:50 <pwhalen> #info INCOMPLETE -jonmasters to help review 3.10 test kernels, and assist pwhalen with vexpress 20:02:50 <pwhalen> #action jonmasters to help review 3.10 test kernels, and assist pwhalen with vexpress 20:03:05 <pwhalen> #info INPROGRESS- pwhalen to post new image/instructions to the wiki for aarch64 quickstart 20:03:05 <pwhalen> #info INPROGRSSS- jonmasters will check vexpress or omap over weekend 20:03:05 <pwhalen> #info INPROGRESS- pwhalen will investigate tegra options 20:03:17 <pwhalen> #info -COMPLETE- ctyler to send an email to the list with Pidora (Raspberry Pi Fedora 18 Remix armv6hl version) image link 20:03:17 <pwhalen> #info Congrats on the new Pidora release Seneca ARM Team! 20:03:22 <bconoboy> \o/ 20:03:47 <pwhalen> as for my two inprogress, will have those finished today/tomorrow 20:03:48 <dmarlin> .fas dmarlin 20:03:49 <zodbot> dmarlin: dmarlin 'David A. Marlin' <dmarlin@redhat.com> 20:04:10 * nirik notes we have now: .hellomynameis youraccountname 20:04:39 <pwhalen> anything else from last week to discuss, or shall we go on? 20:04:49 <bconoboy> next 20:04:58 <pwhalen> #topic 1) Problem packages 20:05:49 <bconoboy> The 3.10 kernel has some issues 20:05:56 <pwhalen> pinged Peter, not sure if hes joining us, anyone else aware of problems packages? 20:05:56 <bconoboy> 1. It doesn't boot yet 20:06:03 <pwhalen> right 20:06:14 <bconoboy> 2. It relies on systemd instead of grubby to install the new kernel infrastructure 20:06:21 <bconoboy> But systemd is broken in this regard. 20:06:31 <bconoboy> This is BZ #965897 20:06:39 * j_dulaney has something while we're on kernel 20:06:41 <dmarlin> Bah! say it ain't so! 20:06:51 <jonmasters_> dmarlin: :) 20:07:10 <pwhalen> #info systemd's kernel-install calls new-kernel-pkg with wrong parameters 20:07:10 <ddd__> jonmasters hugs his favorite systemd ... :) :) :) 20:07:16 <jonmasters_> :) 20:07:17 <pwhalen> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965897 20:07:26 <bconoboy> that's all I have 20:07:51 <dmarlin> bconoboy: does anyone doing systemd now how to install an arm kernel, and what is needed? 20:07:52 <j_dulaney> Chromebook has to wait until 3.11 20:08:05 <dmarlin> s/now/know/ 20:08:19 <bconoboy> dmarlin: systemd itself calls new-kernel-pkg, but uses a bad command line parameter. I put a patch into the bz that fixes it 20:08:38 <jonmasters_> thanks Brendan 20:09:28 <dmarlin> bconoboy: does systemd require uboot-tools as a dependencyon arm? 20:09:40 <pwhalen> is java-1.7.0-openjdk fixed? 20:09:46 <pwhalen> (from last week) 20:09:59 <bconoboy> dmarlin: no, but grubby does 20:10:03 <pwhalen> looks like we have a build in progress now 20:10:19 <jonmasters_> bconoboy: that --install thing might be a problem since I can see them saying that's by design, but..we'll see how that BZ goes 20:11:00 <pwhalen> anyone aware of anything else? 20:11:27 <pwhalen> ok, moving on.. 20:11:35 <bconoboy> It looks like othe recent openjdk builds succeeded 20:12:17 <pwhalen> looks like dgilmore is working on it 20:12:40 <pwhalen> #topic 2) Kernel Status Update 20:12:57 <jonmasters_> bconoboy: btw Linaro report zero build of OpenJDK on AArch64 20:13:11 <jonmasters_> (just while mentioning OpenJDK) 20:13:22 <pwhalen> this is also Peter's topic, in my testing 3.10 is not yet booting on any platform 20:13:42 <pwhalen> anyone else have anything to add to the kernel status? 20:13:49 <j_dulaney> See my above 20:13:54 * j_dulaney should have waited 20:14:00 <jonmasters_> I think basically 3.10 needs some love 20:14:01 <bconoboy> #info 3.10 not yet fully baked 20:14:30 <jonmasters_> but also perhaps worth mentioning that Linaro have someone who will work with Paul to help testing of upstream kernels 20:14:32 <ddd__> +1 20:15:28 <pwhalen> next? 20:15:33 <bconoboy> y 20:15:47 <bconoboy> #undo 20:15:47 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x2c05d890> 20:15:56 <bconoboy> #info 3.10 not yet booting on any arm platform successfully 20:15:58 <pwhalen> #topic 3) Aarch64 20:16:00 <bconoboy> (tnx dmarlin) 20:16:07 <dmarlin> ty 20:16:11 <pwhalen> #topic 3a) aarch64 status update 20:16:20 <ddd__> jonmasters_: what kernel rev is Linaro based on atm ? 20:16:30 <bconoboy> The aarch64 package queue is more or less empty now 20:16:43 <bconoboy> At this point we need to fix failed builds to make further progress 20:17:02 <jcapik> bconoboy: anything to be fixed urgently? 20:17:18 <bconoboy> MSalter is building qt now- that will free up a lot of packages 20:17:54 <bconoboy> When we rebuild gcc with java support that will also help 20:18:17 <bconoboy> If you look at the nightly report just have a gander at the top-10 missing dependency list 20:19:01 <bconoboy> On that you'll see ghc, qt (kde needs qt), java, SDL_mixer-devel and globus-core 20:19:09 <bconoboy> Not sure what's holding back SDL 20:19:20 * j_dulaney is still poking ghc 20:19:23 <jonmasters_> ddd__: https://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=kernel/linux-linaro-tracking.git;a=summary 20:19:24 <dmarlin> we also have a page that shows the packages that fail to build for non-dependecy issues: 20:19:27 <dmarlin> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/Stage4_Problem_Packages 20:19:28 <jonmasters_> ddd__: https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/LinuxLinaroKernelTreeProcess 20:19:49 <bconoboy> #link Help with broken builds, adopt one on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/Stage4_Problem_Packages 20:20:12 <jcapik> bconoboy: i could look at the SDL 20:20:13 <ddd__> jonmasters_: yeah, already found it; /me inpatient.... thanks for verification I got it right though.... Linaro has quite the git list! 20:20:21 <jonmasters_> yup 20:20:24 <bconoboy> msalter: Are you doing something with SDL now? 20:20:42 <jonmasters_> it'll be funny if we fix SDL before we're really using systems with framebuffers 20:21:23 <jcapik> jonmasters_: if it builds, it doesn't necesarilly mean it works :D 20:21:36 <jonmasters_> :) 20:21:39 * j_dulaney knows that all too well 20:21:40 <bconoboy> Basically we can try unlocking builds by solving dependencies, but it's really time to track down individual build failures. Please visit dmarlin's list and grab something interesting. 20:21:51 <jcapik> jonmasters_: I guess we only need to build that 20:22:09 <jonmasters_> jcapik: Marcin already found that with the Xorg binaries - weird endian issue was resulting in byte swapped framebuffer 20:22:19 <jonmasters_> bconoboy: thanks 20:22:23 <jcapik> jonmasters_: :D :D 20:22:36 <jcapik> jonmasters_: i wanna see a photo! 20:22:52 <jonmasters_> jcapik: G+ has one somewhere - if I see it (it was a while back) I'll show you 20:23:03 <jcapik> thx 20:23:21 <bconoboy> pwhalen: I think that's it 20:23:38 <pwhalen> #topic 4) Fedora 19 beta for ARM 20:23:46 <pwhalen> #topic 4a) Fedora 19 Beta for ARM - adding a GUI to the unified image 20:24:15 <dmarlin> is there any technical reason we are not including XFCE on the image? 20:24:34 <bconoboy> dgilmore: We'd like an f19 beta rc image with xfce or similar installed for testing 20:25:05 <pwhalen> that would be great, easier to test..installing now on the rc2 20:25:37 <bconoboy> Since tegra evidently has the ability, we should provide the binaries needed in beta. 20:25:53 <bconoboy> Not to mention we'll want it to diagnose the issues with vexpress and panda 20:25:59 <pwhalen> agreed, if we want to ship for final 20:26:18 <pwhalen> going to also test on omap as well, see if anything has changed 20:26:32 <pwhalen> or Panda specifically 20:26:37 <bconoboy> dgilmore? 20:26:56 * masta waves 20:27:04 <bconoboy> #info These is a desire in the fedora-arm community for an xfce f19-beta image 20:27:26 <pwhalen> ok, next? 20:28:02 <pwhalen> #topic 4b) Fedora 19 for ARM - VFAD Results summary 20:28:11 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Quality_Assurance/2013-05-21-VFAD-Fedora_19_Beta_RC2 20:28:35 <dmarlin> thank you, pwhalen, for all your testing. 20:28:37 <bconoboy> good job pwhalen. we are all lazy slackers because you let us be :-) 20:29:07 <j_dulaney> +1 20:29:10 <pwhalen> everything is looking better, omap should be fixed in the next RC, will be working nicely with abc now.. trimslice works great, and highbank installs without input, using abc at the end 20:29:14 <pwhalen> of the ks 20:29:37 <pwhalen> exynos5 testing welcome! and beagleboard 20:30:05 <dmarlin> pwhalen: are the kickstarts used for making image and installing available anywhere? 20:30:07 <pwhalen> anything else? questions? 20:30:36 <jonmasters_> oh, worth noting RH got two Arndales 20:30:40 <pwhalen> dmarlin, not the one I used, it was your ks with the removal of the boot.scr bits and addition of abc 20:30:47 <j_dulaney> pwhalen: exynos5 boots, but drivers are not loading 20:30:53 <jonmasters_> I reached out to Samsung and got them, so we can at least internally help with some Exynos5 Arndale testing 20:31:01 <dmarlin> pwhalen: it might be nice to post those somewhere, for reference 20:31:04 <jonmasters_> (in addition to Chromebook) 20:31:14 <bconoboy> pwhalen: perhaps you could attached the ks used somewhere and point to it from the vfad page? 20:31:15 <pwhalen> cool! j_dulaney it was a long shot, but thanks for testing.. 20:31:20 * whenry got his beaglebone back yesterday 20:31:31 <pwhalen> bconoboy, sure can, will add to my people acct, link forth coming 20:31:43 <dmarlin> pwhalen: thanks 20:31:54 <Sparks> [1;3D/win 11 20:31:54 <j_dulaney> pwhalen: I only knew it was booting at all by tapping the serial console over uart 20:31:54 <bconoboy> pwhalen: perfecto 20:32:15 <pwhalen> #action pwhalen to post ks used for highbank F19 Beta RC2 Install, add to the vfad wiki page 20:32:17 * whenry wonders if he can help with dmarlin's list 20:32:18 <bconoboy> jonmasters: We'll need to figure out the uboot+blob situation to officially support arndale- perhaps we can discuss during open floor 20:33:38 <bconoboy> next? 20:33:40 <pwhalen> ok 20:33:48 <pwhalen> #topic 5) Flock Plannning 20:34:08 <bconoboy> Roll Call: Who is definitely going? Who is definitely not going? 20:34:09 <pwhalen> this one would be good to have Peter here for, I know he was planning a talk, is anyone else? 20:34:23 * bconoboy is firmly a maybe 20:34:34 * pwhalen would like to 20:34:36 * j_dulaney is more than likely going to be there 20:35:21 <j_dulaney> It's only a 3.5 hour drive for me 20:35:36 <bconoboy> perhaps some arm car pooling is in order 20:35:38 <j_dulaney> Assuming I don't hitch a ride with the RH Party Van as it comes by from Raleigh 20:35:50 <bconoboy> Ooh, party van, even better 20:35:51 <jonmasters_> bconoboy: on blob question I also need to come back with a technical solution for Paul on AXF images that include an initramfs </side note> 20:36:15 * jonmasters_ is planning to go to Flock 20:36:31 <jonmasters_> however, I fly to the UK last day of Flock, so I have to back in Boston that afternoon for another plane 20:36:39 <bconoboy> #info jonmasters, pwhalen, j_dulaney to attend 20:36:39 <pwhalen> yiikes 20:37:01 <bconoboy> anybody who was at fudcon planning on *not* being at flock? 20:37:12 <jonmasters_> I'll probably leave late on the 12th - still gives 4 days there! 20:37:43 * j_dulaney notes that he has a talk on arm virt 20:38:06 <bconoboy> #info j_dulaney to give talk on arm virt 20:38:07 <pwhalen> j_dulaney, cool 20:39:15 <pwhalen> anything else for flock? open floor is next 20:39:35 <pwhalen> #topic 6) Open Floor 20:40:13 <pwhalen> #info Pidora - Fedora Remix now available! 20:40:14 <bconoboy> arndale: I don't think we can officially support it in f19 20:40:17 <pwhalen> #link http://pidora.ca/ 20:40:45 <j_dulaney> bconoboy: I'm assured that the final exynos5 bits should land in 3.11 20:41:30 <j_dulaney> git clone: Why u no go faster? 20:41:33 <bconoboy> j_dulaney: we need uboot to get upstream, blob to be sorted out- it's an f20 aspiration 20:41:55 <j_dulaney> bconoboy: That, too. 20:42:17 <j_dulaney> bconoboy: Although uboot has support for the SoC 20:42:46 <bconoboy> linaro's uboot does, upstream does not, no? 20:43:03 * j_dulaney thought it was upstream 20:43:28 * whenry is trying to look up flock dates but fedora 18 and browsing have become very frustrating 20:43:28 * j_dulaney may be wrong, however 20:43:53 <bconoboy> anyway, that's it for me 20:44:00 <j_dulaney> whenry: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock 20:44:00 <pwhalen> whenry, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock 20:44:03 <pwhalen> :) 20:44:09 <j_dulaney> Beat ye! 20:44:17 <pwhalen> not on my screen :) 20:44:30 <whenry> thanks 20:44:34 <j_dulaney> bconoboy: Who won? 20:45:09 <pwhalen> anything else for open floor? we're ending early folks, doesnt happen all that often 20:45:17 <bconoboy> j_dulaney: We're all winners (what?) 20:45:24 <pwhalen> bconoboy, thats right 20:45:27 <j_dulaney> LOL 20:45:38 <dmarlin> this is an exhibition, not a competition, so please, no wagering. ;-) 20:45:40 <pwhalen> going once.. 20:46:03 <pwhalen> sold! 20:46:04 <pwhalen> #endmeeting