21:00:20 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM status meeting
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21:00:20 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen jonmasters bconoboy ctyler pbrobinson dgilmore dmarlin jdisnard handsome_pirate msalter ahs3 agreene jcapik
21:00:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: agreene ahs3 bconoboy ctyler dgilmore dmarlin handsome_pirate jcapik jdisnard jonmasters msalter pbrobinson pwhalen
21:00:47 <pwhalen> .fas pwhalen
21:00:48 <zodbot> pwhalen: pwhalen 'Paul Whalen' <pwhalen@redhat.com>
21:00:55 <hrw> 13 chairmen :D
21:00:57 <dmarlin> .fas dmarlin
21:01:09 <zodbot> dmarlin: dmarlin 'David A. Marlin' <dmarlin@redhat.com>
21:01:13 <hrw> .fas juszkiewicz
21:01:24 <zodbot> hrw: hrw 'Marcin Juszkiewicz' <mjuszkiewicz@redhat.com>
21:01:37 <pwhalen> afternoon all
21:03:47 <bconoboy> howdy
21:04:08 * pbrobinson is here
21:04:17 <pwhalen> nice, afternoon all.. lets get started
21:04:23 <pwhalen> #topic 1) Kernel Status Update
21:04:49 <jcapik> .fas jcapik
21:04:51 <zodbot> jcapik: jcapik 'Jaromír Cápík' <jcapik@redhat.com>
21:05:16 <pbrobinson> so 3.11 is basically closed out, I don't believe we have any blockers for release
21:05:22 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: can you confirm?
21:05:30 <pwhalen> yes, 3.11 looks good
21:05:47 <kylem> \o/
21:05:52 <pbrobinson> 3.12 is brewing in the nodebug builds here http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/rawhide-kernel-nodebug/
21:06:05 <pbrobinson> so I'd like to get wider testing on that
21:06:21 <kylem> feel free to bug me if something comes up, but i'm just going to take a back seat unless someone shouts and work on other things.
21:06:59 <pbrobinson> the beagle bone black is looking mostly good on the 3.12 branch with usb and display working
21:07:07 <kylem> \o/
21:07:15 <kylem> nice work peter.
21:07:16 <pbrobinson> there's a crash in the network interface, kylem have you got some cycles to help me on that?
21:07:19 <nirik> cool. ;) Is there some image with it?
21:07:45 <kylem> sure.
21:07:51 <pbrobinson> kylem: I think we saw the same crash in your first cut of the 3.11 BBB support so I'm hoping you might be able to help me out there
21:08:13 <pwhalen> for those 3.12 kernels, why do they not appear in koji?
21:09:01 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: because they're scratch builds that jforbes builds, they can't land in f20 mainline until they know there's no fixes needed for 3.11
21:09:22 <pwhalen> pbrobinson, ok, wasnt aware of them, will keep an eye out there as well. thanks
21:09:26 <pbrobinson> kylem: for the BB eth issues feel free to ping me
21:10:17 <pbrobinson> I would love some wider testing on the 3.12 kernels as I would like to know there's no regressions on the 3.11 kernels as they should land shortly after release
21:10:51 <pbrobinson> 3.13 seems OK but I've only tested on a couple of devices, shortly I'll get a BBone patch to land there
21:11:04 <pbrobinson> any one got any queries/questions/thoughts?
21:11:10 <pwhalen> #info rawhide scratch builds can be found - http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/rawhide-kernel-nodebug/
21:11:51 <pbrobinson> also i.MX6
21:12:33 <pwhalen> excellent, thanks pbrobinson, anything else?
21:12:38 <pbrobinson> the 3.12 kernel should be much better for imx6 in general. 3.11 only really supports the wandboard quad but 3.12 should support all wandboard devices and have initial support for the utilite
21:13:38 <pwhalen> #info 3.12 kernel should be much better for imx6 in general, adding support for all Wandboards and initial support for Utilite
21:13:49 <hrw> pbrobinson: do we have exynos armmp or not yet still?
21:14:35 <pbrobinson> hrw: no exynos kernel support, linaro haven't landed multi platform support and they don't estimate it landing soon
21:14:43 <hrw> ok
21:14:53 <pbrobinson> hrw: I've heard rumours maybe 3.16
21:15:20 <hrw> so fedora 24 I would guess as 'maybe then'
21:15:33 <hrw> when hardware will rot
21:15:43 <hrw> ;d
21:16:00 <pwhalen> ok, next?
21:16:15 <pwhalen> #topic 2a) Aarch64 - Status Update
21:16:26 <pbrobinson> so we're moving on koji here
21:16:40 <pbrobinson> because we've jumped f20 and straight to f21 it's a bit slow going atm
21:16:47 <pbrobinson> having to land fixes in mainline
21:17:25 <pbrobinson> but in the next few weeks we should be in full swing
21:17:26 <hrw> is there a list of high priority missing packages?
21:17:40 <hrw> cause I have a bunch of patches to merge into fedora
21:17:44 <pbrobinson> not at the moment as it's some what manual
21:17:59 <pbrobinson> it would be useful to have a documented list of what those patches are
21:18:15 <pbrobinson> even if it's text dumped into a wiki page
21:18:27 <hrw> ok, suggested page/url?
21:18:37 <hrw> I can dump my list there
21:18:58 <pbrobinson> hrw: even a public etherpad page
21:19:19 <hrw> pbrobinson: ok. do fedora has public etherpad server?
21:19:35 <pbrobinson> not sure, pwhalen do you know by chance?
21:19:45 <pwhalen> I dont, perhaps wiki may be easier
21:19:48 <hrw> ok
21:20:26 <bconoboy> there is http://www.fpaste.org/
21:20:54 <hrw> fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/PatchesToMergeIntoFedora would be fine?
21:20:56 <pwhalen> #action hrw to send list of existing aarch64 patches to the fedora-arm list
21:21:09 <hrw> pwhalen: +1
21:21:37 <pwhalen> perhaps a wiki page, sent to the list.. so it can be edited
21:21:47 <hrw> ok
21:22:10 <pwhalen> thanks hrw
21:22:48 <pwhalen> #topic 2b) Aarch64 - Images
21:23:57 <pwhalen> there has been some recent requests for newer images, I dont think much has been built. do we have a plan for producing new images?
21:24:24 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: I'm hoping to have enough of rawhide build that we can compose a minimal one before the end of the year
21:24:38 <pbrobinson> consider it a christmas present
21:25:04 <pwhalen> #info rawhide aarch64 images expected before the end of the year
21:25:05 <pbrobinson> by then we'll also start doing daily composes and start syncing out to the secondary mirrors
21:25:19 <pbrobinson> but at the moment we can't do anything
21:25:43 <pwhalen> sounds good.. anything to cover for aarch64?
21:25:51 <pbrobinson> not from me
21:26:47 <pwhalen> #topic 3) F20 TC4 Testing Summary
21:26:53 <pwhalen> #link Installation: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
21:27:00 <pwhalen> #link Base: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test
21:27:00 <pwhalen> #link Desktop: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test
21:27:22 <pwhalen> most of the bugs encountered in earlier releases have been closed.
21:27:49 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: as usual I'd like to thank you for all your hard work here! I've heard from various people some really good feedback so thanks again!
21:27:50 <pwhalen> we have an issue with text installs that seems to be fixed, need to confirm on highbank.
21:28:10 <pwhalen> pbrobinson, thanks :)
21:28:40 <pwhalen> it does look like we'll slip another week with the existing issues
21:29:23 <pwhalen> we can always use more coverage on desktop testing, I managed to look at xfce, mate and our release blocker kde
21:30:11 <pwhalen> and anaconda can be tested in qemu, so no server hardware is needed. please feel free to try it out, instructions added to our wiki
21:30:18 <pbrobinson> does anyone else have some cycles to test desktop ARM?
21:31:15 <pwhalen> for those with a wandboard, you can also do network installs and test anaconda. lots of options now
21:31:40 <jcapik> I'll try to do new set of remix images for Panda
21:32:09 <pbrobinson> jcapik: have you got a 3.11+ kernel working on panda?
21:32:22 <jcapik> pbrobinson: still using the f19 kernel
21:32:50 <jcapik> pbrobinson: but I could also try to play with the 3.11/3.12 config
21:34:15 <pbrobinson> jcapik: apparently 3.11+ vaguely works but is problematic but I've not managed to work out the problematic bits, I've tried a few leads but with no success, but it might need a slightly modified uboot, I can ping you details of a scratch build if your interested in chasing that, ping me on arm channel after the meeting
21:34:51 <jcapik> pbrobinson: my image is based on the f19 uboot and f19 kernel
21:35:14 <hrw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/PatchesToMergeIntoFedora
21:35:23 <pbrobinson> jcapik: lets take it to the arm channel
21:35:35 <jcapik> ok
21:35:49 <pwhalen> okay, anything else for f20? anyone come across anything not documented?
21:36:57 <pbrobinson> nope, I was hoping to get something to do a virtual serial console over usb for the BBB but I plain ran out of cycles to get it done before freeze
21:37:45 <pwhalen> #topic 4) What are people planning to work on for F-21? (formerly known as F21 Wish list)
21:38:03 * masta looks in
21:38:05 <masta> howdy
21:38:18 <pwhalen> afternoon
21:39:49 <bconoboy> I'd like to see utilite fully supported in f21
21:39:56 <pwhalen> for this one, looking for what we plan to add in f21.  I think this is dependent on what's working in the kernel.
21:40:04 <pbrobinson> masta: have you been avoiding me ;-)
21:40:05 <bconoboy> ... compulab sent us a couple more of them, so I have one and pbrobinson has the other.
21:40:27 <bconoboy> So we should have a remix for f20 sometime soon, then hopefully full support in rawhide
21:40:42 <pbrobinson> so I have on my list in no particular order
21:40:49 <pbrobinson> Beagle Bone support to top notch
21:41:06 <hrw> pbrobinson: BB white and black?
21:41:06 <pbrobinson> imx6 support including wandboard/utilite and cubox-i
21:41:11 <pbrobinson> yes
21:41:18 <pbrobinson> aarch64 obviously
21:42:31 <hrw> I hope to help with aarch64 porting
21:42:37 <pbrobinson> extending my idea of virtual ethernet/serial over USB OTG similar to the angstrom on the BBB across any device that has it
21:42:48 <pbrobinson> and  that should be enough from me
21:44:04 <pwhalen> heh, indeed
21:44:09 <pbrobinson> hrw: oh you will be whether you like it or not ;-)
21:44:30 <pwhalen> anything else?
21:44:35 <hrw> pbrobinson: building software is what I am paid for ;D
21:44:52 <pwhalen> #topic 4) Open Floor
21:46:20 <bconoboy> anybody?
21:47:03 <hrw> I am planning to apply for Fedora developer.
21:47:12 <hrw> have to read docs first ;)
21:47:33 <pwhalen> #endmeeting