15:31:54 <dgilmore> #startmeeting
15:31:54 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Apr 21 15:31:54 2014 UTC.  The chair is dgilmore. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:32:00 <dgilmore> #meetingname releng
15:32:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng'
15:32:07 <dwa> ahoyhoy
15:32:07 <dgilmore> #topic roll call
15:32:39 <dgilmore> #chair dwa sharkcz masta tyll bochecha
15:32:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: bochecha dgilmore dwa masta sharkcz tyll
15:32:47 * bochecha is here
15:32:51 <dgilmore> #chair nirik
15:32:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: bochecha dgilmore dwa masta nirik sharkcz tyll
15:33:25 * masta is here
15:33:56 <dgilmore> nirik said he has an appointment for his dogs
15:34:01 <dgilmore> lets get started
15:34:08 <dgilmore> #topic tickets
15:34:25 <dgilmore> #link https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/report/10
15:34:45 <dgilmore> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5854
15:34:52 <dgilmore> masta: get a chance?
15:35:32 <masta> no I still have not. =(
15:36:12 <dgilmore> okay
15:36:25 <dgilmore> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5362
15:36:46 <dgilmore> I have not yet got xz repodata implemented
15:37:08 <dgilmore> I dont know that we really need to keep the meeting keyword on these two tickets
15:37:22 <dgilmore> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5870
15:37:28 <dgilmore> rawhide signing
15:37:44 <dgilmore> not really sure we have anything much to discuss here
15:38:08 <dgilmore> we know tthat sigul will need a lot of work to be able to do it
15:38:42 <bochecha> is there any place where that needed work is detailed?
15:39:53 <dgilmore> bochecha: not that I know of
15:40:03 <dgilmore> it flies against how sigul was designed
15:40:26 <dgilmore> sigul does not have a roadmap or active development
15:40:35 <bochecha> :-/
15:41:11 <dgilmore> a lot of the tools we use don't have roadmaps
15:42:14 <masta> well that is depressing to read.
15:42:56 <dgilmore> it is what it is
15:43:06 <dgilmore> lets move on
15:43:11 <dgilmore> #topic secondary arches
15:43:19 <dgilmore> #topic secondary arches - ppc
15:43:28 <dgilmore> dwa: want to give us a status update
15:43:56 <dwa> sure
15:44:09 <dwa> ppc64 is generally chugging along, nothing interesting to report
15:44:43 <dwa> ppc64le has a temporary koji hub up to allow IBM to contribute and we've built/noarch imported a whole lot of builds
15:44:54 <dwa> but still with some bootstrap hacks present
15:45:38 <dwa> next steps we're taking are targetting some specific package sets to make sure we've got everything e.g. for a base install
15:45:52 <dwa> then we take out the hacks and see what breaks when we try to rebuild stuff :)
15:46:15 <dwa> ppc64le koji is at http://ppc-le.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji, normal fedora certs work for building stuff etc.
15:46:58 <dwa> on a general note we're aware of the mass rebuild coming up and ppc64 will be ready for it. (doubt ppc64le will be)
15:47:42 <dwa> that's about it
15:48:03 <dgilmore> okay, not entirely sure when exactly the mass rebuild will be
15:48:31 <dwa> I think the releng ticket about it had a target date in it
15:48:42 <dgilmore> it doesnt
15:48:48 <dgilmore> we need to work out everything needed
15:48:54 <dgilmore> and work out a date
15:49:15 <dwa> "Branching is no earlier than 2014-07-08, so mass rebuild should be done by 2014-06-09 (with 4 weeks cleanup grace period)."
15:49:28 <dwa> that's what we were keeping in mind, anyways
15:49:34 <dgilmore> schedule is stil up in teh air a bit
15:49:53 <dgilmore> mass rebuild likely will start in early may
15:50:13 <dgilmore> but we need to check that everything that shold land before it lands
15:50:36 <dgilmore> #topic secondary arches - aarch64
15:50:36 <dwa> nod. rawhide on ppc64 was generally caught up last I checked, so I'm not terribly worried
15:50:54 <dgilmore> aarch64 is getting closer and closer to rawhide
15:51:05 <dgilmore> still some porting needed
15:51:17 <dgilmore> kinda funny we are bringing up two new arches right now
15:51:37 <dwa> 'funny'
15:52:02 <dgilmore> I do need to find out where the aarch64 boxes my boss ordered are and when they will get to phx
15:53:03 <dgilmore> we also need to look at making sure all the compose tools work and we produce useable media
15:53:19 <dgilmore> #topic secondary arches - s390
15:53:31 <dgilmore> sharkcz seems to be not around
15:53:37 <dwa> yeah. IBM guys were getting antsy to see something happen with the ppc64le patches they sent a while back
15:53:39 <dgilmore> but I am not aware of anything
15:53:41 <masta> yeah funny, maybe MIPS will be brought back again too
15:53:42 <dwa> holiday in CZ today, I do believe
15:54:01 <dgilmore> like the sane parts of the work they get easter monday off
15:54:03 <dgilmore> :)
15:54:08 <dwa> (heck, it's technically a state holiday today in Mass too... *company* holiday in CZ though)
15:54:29 <dgilmore> australia has a 4 day weekend for easter
15:54:37 <bochecha> so does HK
15:54:53 <dgilmore> most of the world does
15:55:14 <dgilmore> the US is silly when it comes to national holidays
15:55:20 <dgilmore> anyway
15:55:25 <dgilmore> #topic open floor
15:55:36 <dgilmore> anyone have anything they want to discuss?
15:56:07 <dwa> just a quick note I think I may start working on hacking in rpm verification to koji-shadow for noarch imports
15:56:08 <bochecha> I have a quick question first: how does one add a ticket to the agenda of the meeting? 'meeting' keyword?
15:56:09 <masta> who has push duty?
15:56:13 <dwa> since that's been annoying on ppc64 lately
15:56:24 <dgilmore> dwa: add meeting to the keywords
15:56:41 <dwa> masta: I can never keep track... I just get vauge feelings it's my turn every 2-3 weeks and wait for someone to yell at me ;)
15:56:50 <dgilmore> masta: i believe its dwa this week
15:56:56 <dwa> see? :)
15:56:56 <dgilmore> since you were last week
15:57:12 <bochecha> dgilmore: ok, so I should probably add it to the lookaside hash ticket then :)
15:57:28 <dgilmore> bochecha: probably
15:57:29 <bochecha> anybody had any comment about my last email to the list?
15:57:39 <dgilmore> bochecha: not yet seen it
15:57:58 <dwa> oh hey, push duty is on the releng calendar now
15:57:59 <bochecha> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/rel-eng/2014-April/017654.html
15:58:08 <bochecha> (just so it's in the minutes)
16:00:03 <dwa> gah, fedocal doesn't play nice with gmail :(
16:00:09 <dwa> s/gmail/gcalendar
16:00:31 <dgilmore> dwa: :(
16:01:03 <dgilmore> I wanted to bring up roadmaps for the things we are responsible for
16:01:24 <dgilmore> I think we should sit down and work out what things we ant to do with the tools
16:01:32 <dgilmore> and be a little more active in developing them
16:01:44 <masta> sounds good
16:01:55 <bochecha> +1
16:02:51 <dgilmore> overall need to document better the things that need worked on
16:03:07 <dgilmore> and set more open goals and task
16:03:09 <dgilmore> s
16:04:18 <dgilmore> probably its something I need to do most of all
16:04:38 <dgilmore> but feel free to come up with things that need doing
16:04:48 <dgilmore> or would be good to do
16:05:09 <dgilmore> in the near future porting everything to python3 will be big
16:05:54 <dgilmore> anyone have anything else?
16:06:08 <dgilmore> or should we wrap up?
16:06:15 <dwa> I'm good
16:06:36 <dgilmore> okay
16:06:47 <dgilmore> going in 3
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16:06:51 <dgilmore> #endmeeting