15:38:31 #startmeeting RELENG (2014-07-07) 15:38:31 Meeting started Mon Jul 7 15:38:31 2014 UTC. The chair is dgilmore. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:38:31 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:38:35 #meetingname releng 15:38:35 The meeting name has been set to 'releng' 15:38:35 #chair dgilmore nirik tyll sharkcz bochecha masta 15:38:35 Current chairs: bochecha dgilmore masta nirik sharkcz tyll 15:38:36 #topic init process 15:38:42 * nirik waves. morning 15:39:00 Hi 15:39:14 * sharkcz is here 15:40:49 * nirik goes to grab some more coffee, back in a min 15:40:55 hi 15:44:25 hi 15:44:37 sorry in a bunch of conversations right now 15:45:09 #topic #5931 [Proposal] Move new branch and unretire requests to pkgdb2 15:45:13 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5931 15:47:08 * pingou has nothing new on this for this week 15:47:11 okay 15:47:19 * pingou has planned to send an email to the list but, still haven't :) 15:47:37 #topic #5870 rawhide signing 15:47:46 tyll: how is this going? 15:48:03 nothing new here as well, I still cannot reach the secondary signers from autosign01 15:48:24 nirik: did RHIT do something? 15:48:43 I noted that the change wasn't working, but I haven't seen any action taken yet from that. 15:48:59 I'll try and bug folks in the next few days ago 15:49:00 again 15:49:30 nirik: thanks 15:49:40 lets move on 15:50:03 #topic #5914 Move fedmsg based blocking service to Fedora Infrastructure 15:50:08 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5914 15:50:19 nothing new here from me as well :-( 15:50:33 :( okay, whats needed? 15:51:36 currently it was mostly lack of time, but the next step would be to decide which koji key to use or to generate one, then the script could at least run as it is in Fedora Infrastructure 15:52:57 tyll: okay, we could either reuse one that exists like masher, or bodhi. or make a new one 15:53:09 pkg-blocker or something like it 15:54:22 okay, lets move in 15:54:23 on 15:54:30 #topic Secondary Architectures updates 15:54:31 #topic Secondary Architectures update - ppc 15:54:37 masta: you're up 15:54:41 ok 15:55:03 nothing to report really, I'm not aware of any new developments. 15:55:19 hows the mass rebuild going? 15:55:31 ppc64le working well? 15:55:44 uh, I'm not sure... have not checked since I got back in this morning. 15:56:03 as far as I know the combined hub is working fine 15:56:08 okay 15:56:25 I suspect the rebuild is done, but have no tlooked at the failures yet 15:56:28 any big blockers? 15:57:09 not big, but there are some, failing test for gnulib which is part of coreutils/findutils/... 15:57:16 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC/WorkQueue 15:57:36 sharkcz: okay cheers 15:57:49 sharkcz: how did ppc64le support get dropped? 15:59:06 sorry, don't understand, but the workaround was to use a special builder, on one type the hang doesn't occur 15:59:38 sharkcz: okay. there is some other pretty big issues with systemd-215 15:59:53 right now composing is broken 16:00:08 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1116651 16:00:40 oh yes, systemd, they added some functionality, but didn't for ppc64le 16:01:27 it's hard to react with an official solution in few hours 16:01:27 lovely 16:01:53 it's about debian multiarch triplets ... 16:02:09 which is not defined for ppc64le yet ... 16:03:57 oh great 16:04:11 * masta shivers at the mention of triplets 16:04:58 okay, lets move on 16:05:27 #topic Secondary Architectures update - s390 16:05:40 sharkcz: hows things? 16:06:14 one gcc issue has a fix proposed, second one is still being worked on, so I'll wait for fixed gcc before continuing 16:06:25 okay cool thanks 16:06:34 #topic Secondary Architectures update - arm 16:07:04 so aarch64 is just a little behind build wise 16:07:40 the current kernels should be working for physical hardware 16:07:48 but they seem to only be working for some 16:08:13 but overall aarch64 should be able to follow the branched processes pretty well 16:08:21 #topic Open Floor 16:08:28 anyone have anything to talk about? 16:08:31 so are we ready for branching? 16:08:37 nirik: not really 16:08:39 I retired a lot of packages 16:08:45 yep - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5933 and https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5934 16:09:08 pingou: pkgdb2 has a mass branching thing right? 16:09:32 nirik: it has a script yes 16:09:42 pingou: is the process documented? 16:10:13 pingou: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mass_Branching_SOP needs updated 16:10:31 https://github.com/fedora-infra/pkgdb2/blob/master/utility/pkgdb2_branch.py this is the script 16:10:41 dgilmore: indeed, I'll do that 16:11:01 sharkcz: so we might have to manually untag it looks like, but not sure the root cause. 16:11:16 masta: thats not an option 16:11:33 we will need to work out why the syncing of blocked packages is doing something wrong 16:11:52 for the f20-updates-testing thing? I guess yes 16:11:58 abadger1999: any idea if we looked at pkgdb2branch.py 16:12:01 ? 16:12:32 sharkcz: yes, sry the first ticket with that big list of builds in both tags 16:12:35 pingou: pkgdb2branch is used for day-to-day new packages so it must work to some extent. 16:12:54 abadger1999: cool, thanks :) 16:12:59 pingou: but it does have a few CLI switches that optimize the mass branching process so those could be broken and we didn't test them. 16:13:09 masta: ok, there is probably a flow in bodhi worflow in the "right before GA" phase 16:13:27 sharkcz: bodhi probably needs fixed 16:13:45 dgilmore: for the sync - you have the logs somewhere, don't you? 16:14:16 sharkcz: local email. 16:14:41 sharkcz: likely will need to run manully and add some debugging 16:14:57 pingou: The --branch-for and -c options of pkgdb2branch are the pathway for mass branch 16:16:01 dgilmore: I guess the workaround would be to add GConf-dbus in f19 tag in primary and block it then, but knowing the root should be preferred 16:16:34 sharkcz: yeah, id rather work oyt what exactly is happening 16:16:43 oh, one more thing I had... not sure it's really for here, but will mention it: centos7 is almost out, so we might want to look at moving epel7 from beta sometime soon (time permitting). 16:16:54 dgilmore: maybe it has something with the f19 branch only on secondaries 16:17:44 like it thinks, f18 blocked, so it should be unblocked in f19 because it exists 16:18:00 but you will see 16:18:08 sharkcz: will work it out 16:18:18 thanks 16:20:16 i will have to work with pingou on branching 16:20:36 the branching side of things shouldn't be too hard 16:20:45 but TC1 is another issue 16:20:47 dgilmore: I'll update the doc in the morning and make sure to be free in the afternoon 16:20:57 pingou: cheers 16:23:48 * dgilmore would like to ask everyone to keep me on task in updating the compose documentation as we do them 16:24:10 I would like to make sure that at least nirik, and masta can do primary composes 16:24:23 sounds good. 16:24:39 reminds me 16:25:05 Red Hat hired Bochecha as a releng person, part of his tasks is to help with fedora 16:25:19 * dgilmore is hoping he can work on some of the coding things we need done 16:25:42 (he left irc 5 min ago :() 16:26:01 we have hired another person to backfill ppc, but thats still be finalised as to the details and when he starts. so i wont name him yet 16:26:05 let me just say: hurray! 16:26:15 backfil dwa 16:26:19 backfill 16:26:36 so there should be some more active people to help with things 16:26:48 dgilmore: that sounds great, I'd like to try a compose 16:26:58 we need to sort out composing for secondary arches in the new world 16:27:20 ideally I would like everyone active in releng to be able to do composes 16:29:13 that sounds good. 16:29:36 we should strive to fully cross train 16:31:30 indeed 16:32:07 okay, anyone have anything else they want to cover today? 16:33:51 #endmeeting