18:33:56 #startmeeting Fedora-Fr 18:33:56 Meeting started Mon Aug 4 18:33:56 2014 UTC. The chair is eseyman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:33:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:34:08 #meetingname Fedora-Fr du 04 août 2014 18:34:08 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-fr_du_04_août_2014' 18:34:25 présentez vous au log, si vous le voulez bien 18:34:31 juste à temps, Nobrakal_ 18:34:35 .hellomynameis fantom 18:34:36 Casper_v2: fantom 'None' 18:34:38 .fas eseyman 18:34:39 eseyman: eseyman 'Emmanuel Seyman' 18:34:44 En effet :) Bonsoir à tous! 18:34:46 .fas Jehane 18:34:46 Jehane: jehane '' 18:34:47 .fas Freetux 18:34:49 .fas nobrakal 18:34:49 Freetux: freetux 'Nicolas TISSOT' 18:34:52 Nobrakal_: nobrakal 'Alexandre Moine' 18:35:00 #chair Casper_v2 misc Nobrakal_ Jehane number80 Freetux 18:35:00 Current chairs: Casper_v2 Freetux Jehane Nobrakal_ eseyman misc number80 18:35:30 #topic Association Borsalinux-fr 18:36:00 j'ai reçu un coup de fil de la maison des associations pour confirmer mes coordonnées 18:36:03 à part ça, RAS 18:36:31 du coup, next 18:36:37 #topic Fedora-Fr.org 18:36:57 Guillaume n'étant pas là, je pense qu'on peut sauter 18:37:08 +1 18:37:08 yep 18:37:09 *nods* 18:37:13 #topic Projet Fedora 18:37:21 c'est calme 18:37:28 c'est le calme plat, pour cause de Guadec/Flock 18:37:39 pleins de réunions IRC annulées 18:38:36 next 18:38:53 #topic Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences 18:39:02 c'était samedi 18:39:07 * misc est passé 1h 18:39:09 c'était calme 18:39:16 Yep, pas grand monde d'ailleurs... 18:39:19 à 1 semaine près j'aurai pu y être :/ 18:39:24 ya du stock de ggodies ? 18:39:28 j'en ai profité pour ramener toutes nos affaires à la CdS 18:39:31 goodies* 18:39:37 Casper_v2: non 18:39:38 Casper_v2: oui, mais pas pour toi 18:39:48 Casper_v2, on a une grosse dizaine d'autocollants, grand format 18:40:04 ok c'est faible comme stock ^^ 18:40:15 du coup, j'ai discuté fabrication de goodies avec Jehane et Nobrakal_ 18:40:38 Oui, et jehane a eu de super idees au passage! 18:40:50 voui 18:41:02 les chiffonnettes à lunettes / écran 18:41:09 pas mal 18:41:11 avec un beau logo fedora 18:41:15 gg 18:41:17 et bleu ? 18:41:44 les fabricants proposent pas mal de couleurs apparement 18:41:58 sinon, eseyman propose des plaques de randonnée 18:42:18 plaques de rando ? 18:42:41 Oui, très pratique aussi, pour rivaliser avec les couteaux suisse de nos amis de debian! 18:42:51 +1 18:43:32 Freetux: un carré en plastique avec un coté tranchant, un autre avec des dents de scies, une boussole... 18:43:39 sinon, je proposais des lunch-box ou des tasses isothermes, mais je pense que ça va coincer au niveau des budgets 18:44:09 Nobrakal_: ah ok. Je fais de la rando depuis 10ans et j'en ai jamais vu ^^. Mais le concept est pas mal :) 18:44:16 j'ai uen question surement off-topic: yen a ici qui savent quel kernel supporte les dernieres amd radeon? 18:44:25 Nobrakal_, ce serait du metal 18:44:34 dlorah-: tous 18:44:34 j'essaye de trouver une image 18:44:38 avec le drv ati 18:44:39 ( Freetux le truc pour la course d'orientation au collège/lycée) 18:44:50 * misc rappelle que c'est une réunion 18:44:55 Alors en métal, je n'y connais rien non plus :p 18:45:04 Jehane: donc faut pas prendre le libre? mais sur la doc fedora-fr ils precisent que les derniers kernels ne supportent pas le driver proprio 18:45:05 Casper_v2: bah ils ont tous des gps sur leur smartphone maintenant:p 18:45:23 dlorah-: driver opensource 18:45:32 (et comme dit misc, on est en réu) 18:45:41 dlorah-, ici c'est la réunion de la team fedora-fr, le support c'est sur #fedora-fr 18:45:42 Jehane: avec l'opensource jsuis obligé de démarrer en safemode :s 18:45:53 nex siouplait 18:45:56 next* 18:46:09 #info le stock de goodies est très bas 18:46:57 et on risque de faire les prochains salons avec un stand vide 18:47:04 allez, next 18:47:23 #topc Flock 2014 18:47:28 fail 18:47:39 #topic Flock 2014 18:47:43 c'est cette semaine 18:48:12 tout le monde qui y va est sur la route/dans les airs 18:48:42 j'espère que les confs vont bien être enregistrés 18:48:52 et streamées 18:48:54 Ce serait vraiment cool ça ! 18:49:45 allez, next 18:50:01 #topic Capitole du Libre 2014 18:50:21 notre prochain stand sera à priori le Capitole du Libre 18:50:30 RAS de notre côté. L'appel a proposition de conf est toujours ouvert jusqu'au 15 septembre :) 18:50:46 sauf si OWF décide de faire un village associatif à la dernière minute comme l'année dernière 18:50:55 Ok, ma venue semble se confirmer d'ailleurs! 18:51:08 \o/ 18:51:12 cool :) 18:51:29 rien à la fête de l'huma ? 18:51:32 faites le plein de goodies si le Cdl est le prochain événement que vous faites :D 18:51:54 la seule réponse pour la Fête de l'Huma a été celle de number80 pour dire 'bof' 18:51:54 eseyman: on aura aussi une présence à Pyconfr mais pas de stands 18:52:31 a noter que si on veut des DVD F21, il ne faut plus le moindre jour de retard pour la release 18:52:36 et encore, ce sera chaud 18:52:40 l'huma c'est prenant comme event, et je suis certain que mon futur employeur dira non :) 18:52:52 et des dvd en beta ? ^^ 18:52:55 number80, bof 18:52:57 il reste des dvd f20 ? 18:53:05 \o/ 18:53:08 eseyman: en passant par RH ou par l'asso pour les dvd ? 18:53:08 Casper_v2, quasiment plus 18:53:11 ok 18:53:17 Jehane, par l'asso 18:53:32 s'il faut passer par Fedora EMEA, fait compter 2 mois 18:53:32 eseyman: tu veux qu'on essaie d'en récupérer à Flock si il y en a ? 18:53:48 Eseyman: et encore :p 18:53:57 number80, oui, je veux bien 18:54:16 ok, je verrais à chopper Jiri 18:54:40 du coup, on réflechit à faire des goodies nous-même 18:54:44 s/on/je/ 18:55:30 Pour les dvds, ça serrait vachement plus pratique quand même 18:55:51 les dvds, on peut remplacer par des clés USB 18:56:10 comme ça, pas de temps de pressage 18:56:11 ça un coût les dvd et on n'a pas des masses d'entrées 18:56:55 eseyman: bonne idée les clés 18:57:44 allez, la suite 18:57:51 #topic RF21 18:58:15 comme dit plus haut, ça devient compliqué de faire les RF21 pendant CdL 18:58:31 Oui, c'est beaucoup trop risqué à mon avis 18:58:31 du coup, ça reporterait à janvier les RF21 18:58:33 allo 18:58:50 comme auront donc lieu à Paris comme d'habitude :-( 18:58:56 si on veut tjrs le faire en province, donnez moi une date et je reserve les locaux 18:58:58 salut, Cydrobolt 18:59:04 sault eseyman :) 18:59:10 eseyman: et Lyon ? 18:59:20 on a tjrs le partenariat avec epitech lyon 18:59:45 Oui, ce serrait cool la province, ayons une pensées pour nos amis méridionaux ! 18:59:50 la dernière fois qu'on en a parlé, on disait que ça ne pouvait se faire qu'en soirée 19:00:15 mais c'est vrai qu'on a signé la convention avec Epitech Lyon depuis 19:00:18 non, le samedi c'est jouable justement depuis le fameux partenariat 19:00:37 je note 19:00:38 les locaux sont autogeres par les etudiants 19:01:13 #info on peut faire les RF21 à Lyon sur une ou plusieurs journées 19:01:42 on viserait janvier ? 19:02:08 je ne sais pas encore 19:02:17 c'est trop tôt pour décider 19:02:59 ok 19:03:03 on verra par la suite 19:03:13 allez, next et fin 19:03:19 #topic Discussion libre 19:03:41 une plaque de survie, c'est donc ça : http://www.auvieuxcampeur.fr/plaquette-de-survie-15-fonctions.html 19:04:20 pas mal je connaissais pas 19:04:23 vais m'en acheter une 19:05:19 pas le genre de trucs que tu peux emmener dans un navion 19:05:26 ouais j'imagine :D 19:05:35 Je crains... 19:05:36 en soute ça va :) 19:06:44 j'aime l'idée 19:11:21 je me renseigne et je reviens vers vous sur la liste 19:11:42 allez, c'est fini 19:11:47 #endmeeting 19:12:06 merci à tous d'avoir été là 19:12:12 bonne fin de soirée 19:12:13 ciao 19:12:20 de même 19:13:01 Merci, et bonne soirée :) 18:49:25 o? 18:49:28 o/ 19:00:45 Sparks_too: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 19:00:49 #meetingname Fedora Security Team 19:00:49 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_security_team' 19:00:55 #endmeeting 19:01:13 #endmeeting 19:01:22 Sparks_too: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 19:01:27 *sigh* 19:01:44 .mynameis bvincent 19:02:29 Okay, lets see if someone in admin can fix zodbot real quick. 19:02:54 ok, don't worry 19:03:43 #endmeeting 19:04:24 Okay, I'm just going to pretend that zodbot is awake and doing what it should be doing in the off chance this can be saved. 19:04:33 Sparks_too: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 19:04:36 #meetingname Fedora Security Team 19:04:36 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_security_team' 19:04:39 #topic Roll Call 19:04:41 * Sparks_too 19:04:56 * jtaylor90 is here 19:05:02 present 19:05:14 here 19:05:18 here 19:05:32 here (David) 19:05:45 .hellomynameis bvincent 19:05:46 bvincent: bvincent 'Brandon Vincent' 19:05:48 I am present as an interested party. I am an IT security professional and curious about the Fedora Security Team. 19:07:15 hi danofsatx-dt :) 19:07:18 Okay, good group. Lets get started. 19:07:25 #info Participants are reminded to make liberal use of #info #link #help in order to make the minutes "more better" 19:07:31 #topic Follow up on last week's action items (10 minutes) 19:07:57 Okay, we're going to skip last week's actions items since I failed to fix the agenda. :/ 19:08:08 That will give us more time to discuss other things. 19:08:22 #topic Roster 19:08:54 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security_Team_Roster 19:09:23 Looks like several people have added their info to the Security Team roster. I'll encourage everyone to go there and update their information. 19:10:12 #topic Rewards 19:10:14 * marcdeop is sorry he is late 19:10:35 I haven't had a chance to look at this stuff yet but I'll make it a priority for this week and we'll talk about it more next week. 19:10:41 #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 19:10:58 Okay, here is what I really wanted to get to since this is the fun part. 19:11:07 #info Monday's numbers: Critical 2, Important 70, Moderate 372, Low 131, Total 575, Trend +9 19:11:11 #info Current tickets owned: 119 19:12:03 So right now it looks like we are currently working ~20% of all the open vulnerabilities in Fedora and EPEL. That's awesome. 19:12:26 Is anyone coming up with any problems they'd like to discuss? 19:12:37 yup, pwgen and rubygems 19:12:53 #info We've already closed 8 tickets 19:13:00 jrusnack: The floor is yours 19:13:19 #info sent patches to pwgen upstream that fix 2 CVEs, no response. Should I go ahead and push them just to fedora ? 19:14:06 jrusnack: Are we sure they fix the problems? 19:14:36 Sparks_too, jrusnack is a good idea to discuss fixes in fedora mailing list 19:14:47 second pair of eyes allways are wellcome 19:14:47 I can send them to you and you can see yourself. Also, I assume I would work with packager 19:14:54 yup 19:14:55 jrusnack: fedora-devel.. 19:15:04 OK, so I`ll discuss on the list 19:15:52 #info rubygems vulns - so there are these two guys, Michael Stahnke and Jeroen va Meeuwen, who own rails in EPEL and have ~25 unfixed vulnerabilities 19:16:00 jrusnack: plus the packager. Depending on how fluent they are with the code... :) 19:16:24 jrusnack: So, yeah, I'd say we should submit the patches to the packager for review and see where that goes. 19:16:25 #info jsmith advised I should start unresponsive packagers policy - maybe would be useful for others to know it exists 19:16:44 Yeah, we have one of those. 19:17:02 jrusnack: can you share/link this info wiki/mailing? 19:17:38 #info http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers 19:17:39 just fyi, on one of the lists or irc maybe Jeroen va Meeuwen aka kanarip is at flock. folks are reaching out to him about package maintenance 19:17:51 +1 jrusnack ty! 19:18:28 jtaylor90: yup, I asked on fedora devel, a good fellow might make him fix those for us :) 19:18:58 that`s all, thanks ! 19:19:25 cool 19:19:46 Okay, so I'll talk about my adventures with EPEL real quick. 19:20:15 Today, I asked that two orphaned packages be removed from EPEL-5... and they were. That closed nine tickets in BZ. 19:20:27 eucalyptus ? 19:20:52 I have another ~28 eyed for the same outcome. 19:21:03 This will close ~59 tickets 19:21:24 jrusnack: Euca is in Fedora only 19:22:00 So I'll be working on these orphaned packages and we'll see if we can get those taken care of. 19:22:03 Sparks_too: moin can be added to that outcome as well, releng retired and untagged all builds for moin in epel5 (releng ticket #5956) 19:22:13 jtaylor90: +1 19:22:38 jtaylor90: If you haven't done so already, go ahead and close all moin el5 bugs in BZ as CLOSED, WONTFIX. 19:22:48 jtaylor90: And put your fst_owner tag on them. 19:23:04 so, what is process for getting them orphaned ? 19:23:04 excellent, that answers that question about how to close 19:24:12 jtaylor90: Yeah, I went through that earlier today. 19:24:33 jrusnack: So these packages are already orphaned. We want them retired. You must go through releng to do that. 19:24:54 jrusnack: So, you just open a ticket in releng's trac instance on fhosted and magic happens. 19:25:02 Sparks_too: oh right, got it, thnaks ! 19:25:46 So, I sent the list of EPEL packages to epel-devel earlier today. I'll likely ask that those packages get retired tomorrow if no one speaks up about them. 19:26:58 WRT Eucalyptus, the package owner no longer wants to own this. I suspect most people using euca aren't using the Fedora package. We'll likely go through the retirement process with this package as well. 19:27:20 Does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss ticket-wise? 19:27:36 yeah I have one 19:27:55 jtaylor90: go 19:28:13 well it's actually at least a couple tickets, it relates to the mingw32 packages in epel5 specifically mingw32-jasper and mingw32-openssl 19:28:25 okay 19:28:47 I emailed the original packager and then followed up with the minfw sig mailing list, the whole mingw32 package set has essentially been orphaned 19:28:57 I am waiting to hear a consense from the SIG on how they want to handle 19:29:16 handy 19:29:53 I haven't had a chance to see if there are other mingw32 package bz's out there so if anyone else comes across them, the issues with epel5 packages are being discussed 19:30:13 I will go through and see if there are any others related BZ's and grab them 19:30:26 that's it :) 19:31:40 jtaylor90: Yeah, just grab the tickets and you can figure it out as it goes on. 19:31:46 Anyone else? 19:33:01 #topic Open floor discussion 19:33:05 y'all were mentioned on the Linux Action Show: http://youtu.be/XKyeGe8EtOk?t=25m39s 19:33:19 danofsatx-dt: That's scary... I'll have to go watch. 19:34:41 danofsatx-dt: Even scarier... they used my email 19:34:58 uh oh....prepare for spam. 19:35:21 * danofsatx-dt missed that 19:35:22 danofsatx-dt: Too late... we were also featured on php today and some other geek news places. 19:35:34 Who'd a thought people would give a crap? 19:35:56 why wouldn't they? security got relevant since the heartbeat bug 19:35:59 Take a look at the security issues with other distributions. 19:36:12 well, considering the world I work in, a lot. I'm slowly but surely converting my office from Windows to Fedora/CentOS 19:36:14 marcdeop: True, but we don't have a cool URL or icon. 19:36:24 In comparison, Fedora is not as bad as some other distributions. 19:36:26 we can always get that, right? 19:37:02 heh 19:37:59 Oh 19:38:30 When you are looking for a case to work on, please look at the oldest ticket not taken. I want to make sure we can get rid of as many of the old things as possible. 19:40:01 I am sorry I cannot participate much yet, I recently switch countries and it has been extremely difficult to handle all the paperwork and new job :S 19:40:19 marcdeop: No worries, we'll likely have work for you to do when you get the time. :) 19:40:22 so, another process related question: how to push CVE from ON_QA state further ? E.g. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1020950 is in ON_QA state for ~9 months now 19:41:33 jrusnack: I'd ask on the ticket for the package to be moved to stable 19:42:03 stable is what ? sorry not fluent in fedora process yet 19:42:48 jrusnack: Well, it's in testing. The packager just needs to push the button in bodhi that says "push to stable". 19:43:52 thanks. And maybe related question - do we want to monitor ON_QA packages too ? 19:44:11 Yes, anything that isn't closed 19:44:34 we need to follow the entire process 19:44:55 we do the same in the SRT/rh 19:45:25 revskills: +1 19:45:41 Sparks_too: then we need more bugzilla searches on our awesome wiki 19:45:51 thanks for exaplanations ! 19:45:55 jrusnack: It's a wiki... be bold! 19:46:10 Sparks_too: let`s do it ! :) 19:46:48 #action jrusnack add more bugzilla searches to wiki to cover tickets in other states (we want to monitor entire process) 19:46:53 :) 19:46:58 Okay, anyone have anything else? 19:48:10 No, just getting up to speed so I can eventually be helpful 19:48:13 no, looks everything is going fine 19:48:30 Okay, I'm going to end the meeting and invite everyone back over to #fedora-security-team for refreshments. 19:48:37 Thanks for everyone coming and participating. 19:48:45 +1 Sparks_too 19:49:03 D-Caf: Come over to #fedora-security-team for a better explaination. 19:49:09 #endmeeting 19:49:24 now, I`d like to know which meeting we busted. Just to see the meeting minutes ;) 19:49:41 jrusnack: I'm sure we'll hear about it. :) 16:12:52 * geppetto is shocked to see everyone having fun at flock and not turning up ;) 16:15:34 geppetto: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 16:15:35 #meetingname fpc 16:15:35 The meeting name has been set to 'fpc' 16:15:35 #topic Roll Call 16:16:13 abadger1999 geppetto tibbs|w limburgher Rathann SmootherFr0gZ RemiFedora racor spot: FPC ping 16:16:22 Oh, hey. 16:16:30 * geppetto doesn't expect anything … but I figured I'd try. 16:16:44 #chair geppetto tibbs|w 16:16:56 #endmeeting 16:17:07 geppetto: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 16:17:18 Hmmm … meeting bot seems broken too 16:17:28 It's a sign. 16:18:45 ha, likely … have fun, I'll see you in a couple of weeks 15:35:50 dgilmore: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 15:36:00 frack 15:36:04 #endmeeting 15:36:10 nirik: ^^ 15:36:29 neat. ;) 15:36:31 just a sec. 15:36:35 .listmeetings 15:36:35 nirik: ('#fedora-meeting-1', 'freenode') 15:37:11 .addchair #fedora-meeting-1 freenode nirik 15:37:13 nirik: Chair added: nirik on (#fedora-meeting-1, freenode). 15:37:17 #endmeeting