20:00:30 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM status meeting
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20:00:30 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen jonmasters bconoboy pbrobinson dgilmore dmarlin hrw jsmith
20:00:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: bconoboy dgilmore dmarlin hrw jonmasters jsmith pbrobinson pwhalen
20:00:40 <pwhalen> afternoon all
20:00:44 <pwhalen> .fas pwhalen
20:00:45 <zodbot> pwhalen: pwhalen 'Paul Whalen' <pwhalen@redhat.com>
20:00:52 <jsmith> .hellomynameis jsmith
20:00:55 <zodbot> jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' <jsmith.fedora@gmail.com>
20:01:05 * masta is here
20:01:24 * pbrobinson is here
20:02:45 <pwhalen> doesnt look like we had any action items last time, so lets get started..
20:02:52 <pwhalen> #topic 1) Kernel Status Update
20:03:24 <dgilmore> hola
20:04:00 <pwhalen> pbrobinson, anything interesting worth mentioning here?
20:05:01 * pbrobinson is back
20:05:19 <pbrobinson> kernel 3.16 is the one we'll have for alpha
20:05:40 <pbrobinson> tegra K1 should be OK, and I'm working on some others
20:05:49 <pwhalen> as for testing, not seeing any kernel breakage.. I did test Hans patches for the banana pi, both for uboot and kernel.. working well, Peter is looking at adding it to our kernel
20:05:54 <pbrobinson> would like feedback all round across all devices
20:06:33 <pbrobinson> I suspect we'll be moving to 3.17 post alpha but not 100% sure yet
20:06:56 <hrw> wandboard quad boots, usb works, ethernet works, display works but no edid read (can be enforced with dms_kernel_helper.edid_firmware argument). did not checked sound of wifi
20:07:15 <hrw> s/of wifi/or wifi
20:07:50 <pwhalen> #info F21 Alpha to ship with 3.16 - Please test all devices and report issues
20:07:52 <dgilmore> hrw: display works just fine here on wandboard quad
20:07:59 <pbrobinson> I believe wifi, if sdio attached, likely will have problems
20:08:25 <hrw> dgilmore: I got xga resolution == no edid read
20:08:47 <hrw> may dig for other hdmi cable if needed
20:08:49 <dgilmore> hrw: that is a local issue, but one that should be fixed
20:08:57 <pwhalen> hrw, I saw the same. I believe you were talking to someone about it?
20:09:24 <hrw> pwhalen: got one patch to test from robclark. same effect
20:09:40 <pwhalen> ah, ok
20:10:12 <dgilmore> hrw: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/130793/77496414 is what i get from edid-decode /sys/class/drm/card0/card0-HDMI-A-1/edid
20:10:28 <pwhalen> anything else kernel related?
20:10:43 <pbrobinson> no, I don't think so
20:10:57 <pwhalen> we'll quickly talk about aarch64, then move on to all f21 alpha
20:11:03 <pwhalen> #topic 2) Aarch64 Status update
20:11:17 <pbrobinson> mass rebuilt for both f21/22 is ongoing
20:11:28 <pbrobinson> kernel I believe is in reasonable state
20:11:35 <pbrobinson> it's all moving forward
20:11:42 <pbrobinson> major blocker at the moment is java
20:11:58 <bconoboy> BZ?
20:12:03 <hrw> aarch64 repos were broken today
20:12:04 <masta> openjdk-8?
20:12:14 <pwhalen> #info Aarch64 mass rebuild for f21/22 in progress. Major blocker is Java
20:12:18 <pbrobinson> 1130179
20:12:36 <bconoboy> #info Java BZ: 1130179
20:12:42 <hrw> 3.17-rc0/fedora booted fine on mustang
20:12:48 <pwhalen> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1130179
20:12:51 <pbrobinson> it's being dealt with by the maintainers so it's moving
20:13:38 <hrw> dgilmore: here edid is full of 00
20:13:41 <pwhalen> excellent, thanks.. anything else?
20:14:12 <bconoboy> do we have composes going?
20:14:17 <pbrobinson> hrw: dgilmore: can you discuss that on the arm channel please
20:14:23 <hrw> sure
20:14:47 <pbrobinson> bconoboy: it's moving forward, I believe dgilmore has a few bugs to deal with now TC5 is out
20:15:25 <pwhalen> #topic 3a) F21 Alpha - Test Day (Sept 18th)
20:15:37 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2014-09-18_ARM
20:16:31 <masta> oh cool, test day!
20:16:44 * masta marks his calendar
20:16:44 <pwhalen> I've created a wiki page, needs some work including the actual tests to be performed. first test day is to determine a baseline support
20:17:19 <pwhalen> as you can see, f21 should work on quite a few boards..
20:18:00 <pbrobinson> this is the overview of the core ideas for board support in F-21 http://nullr0ute.com/2014/08/fedora-21-and-arm-device-support/
20:18:57 <pwhalen> #info Overview of board support in F21 - http://nullr0ute.com/2014/08/fedora-21-and-arm-device-support/
20:19:31 <masta> That list looks good
20:19:32 <pwhalen> interested in feeedback, tests you think we should look at.. either here, on the list..
20:19:33 <hrw> I have bbw, pandaboard ea1 on which I can run tests.
20:21:17 <masta> I'm trying to get A15 boards (arndale & omap5 uevm) working, but I'll probably give up on them, and focus on any boards I happen to own from the primary list.
20:21:55 <masta> If we get Tegra k1 working, then that is a good A15 story.
20:22:06 <pwhalen> masta, its working
20:22:31 <pbrobinson> dgilmore: what's the state of uboot rebase?
20:22:47 <dgilmore> pbrobinson: its coming along, there is a lot thats changed upstream
20:23:25 <pbrobinson> do you think it'll land, even if it's just rawhide as a first cut, this week?
20:24:08 <pwhalen> since we've changed topics..
20:24:10 <pwhalen> #topic 3b) F21 Alpha - ARM Status
20:24:21 <dgilmore> he goal
20:24:25 <dgilmore> pbrobinson: that is the goal
20:25:41 <pwhalen> in other status, the selinux-policy bz for intial-setup is now resolved - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112387
20:25:58 <pwhalen> that was an open arm specific blocker for f21
20:26:10 <pbrobinson> eoo!
20:26:14 <pbrobinson> woo! even
20:26:25 <pwhalen> network installations seem to be broken-ish..
20:27:05 <masta> pwhalen: borken-ish ?
20:27:06 <pwhalen> a little confused with all the different repositories, looks like we have multiple pxe images, repos ..
20:27:32 <dgilmore> pwhalen: that is expected
20:27:37 <pwhalen> I was able to do a network install using the workstation repo, but server blew up on storage
20:27:39 <dgilmore> onbe install tree per product
20:27:46 <pwhalen> ugh
20:27:53 <dgilmore> pwhalen: that is expected one install tree per product
20:28:04 <pwhalen> right, got ya, and figured as much..
20:28:08 <dgilmore> pwhalen: server is broken in general right now
20:28:12 <dgilmore> its not arm specific
20:28:28 <dgilmore> though the storage code is the same
20:28:34 <dgilmore> so there is some other issue there
20:28:40 <pwhalen> i did see that, but didnt hit the same reported bug
20:30:39 <dgilmore> there is a lot of changes in flight here still
20:30:48 <dgilmore> again not at all arm related
20:31:04 <pwhalen> agreed.. when will the next TC be?
20:31:19 <dgilmore> bconoboy: have you heard how torez is doing on XFS support? I know the Server WG would like to use it everywhere
20:31:30 <dgilmore> pwhalen: as soon as we have enough to make it
20:31:55 <pwhalen> ok, so not determined. thanks
20:32:57 <dgilmore> pwhalen: its done by the blocker bugs process
20:33:07 <dgilmore> its not something I just decide to do
20:33:15 <bconoboy> dgilmore: I understand she's working on it when she has time but haven't had an update in a couple weeks
20:33:30 <bconoboy> dgilmore: why not ask her?
20:33:45 <dgilmore> bconoboy: okay. not heard from her in ages. i will check with her
20:33:58 <dgilmore> bconoboy: I asked you since you were here and shes not :)
20:34:23 <bconoboy> :-)
20:35:06 <pwhalen> alright.. any other f21 related issues to discuss?
20:35:30 <dgilmore> test test test
20:35:33 <dgilmore> file bugs
20:35:39 <pbrobinson> what he says...
20:36:00 <pwhalen> right..
20:36:01 <pbrobinson> ask questions on #fedora-arm if you're not sure
20:36:05 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_TC5_Install
20:36:18 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_TC5_Base
20:36:31 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_TC5_Desktop
20:36:41 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_TC5_Server
20:37:01 <pwhalen> #info please add results to the wiki, file bugs on issues encountered
20:37:34 <tibbs> Hmm, someone pinged me.
20:37:55 <tibbs> Guess it was from the previous meeting in here.
20:38:14 <pwhalen> :)
20:38:17 <pwhalen> #topic 4) Open Floor
20:39:05 <bconoboy> Can we start having this meeting more often?
20:39:15 <hrw> and earlier?
20:39:20 <pbrobinson> more than once a fortnight?
20:39:41 <bconoboy> has it only been 2 weeks? Seems longer.
20:40:13 <pbrobinson> I thought we've chosen to move it to a fortnightly cadence
20:40:21 <dgilmore> I thought it was monthly
20:40:25 <hrw> I had to miss change from 1/month to 1/fortnight
20:40:50 <pbrobinson> I'm sure someone said it was moving to fortnightly
20:40:55 <pbrobinson> anyway
20:40:56 <bconoboy> pbrobinson: I thought we decided to move it to every 2 weeks but never did
20:41:12 <masta> +1 fortnightly
20:41:29 <pbrobinson> so I'm not completely on a different planet :)
20:41:54 <pwhalen> no, you're right.. it was to be every two weeks.
20:42:05 <pbrobinson> so that's decided...
20:42:09 <pbrobinson> what time?
20:42:10 <pwhalen> sold.
20:42:51 <bconoboy> maybe take that to the list?
20:42:58 <pwhalen> I'm flexible.. sounds like others want it changed
20:43:15 <pwhalen> we have prior, hard to do on the list..
20:43:24 <dgilmore> pwhalen: set up a whenisgood?
20:44:00 <pwhalen> dgilmore, sure.
20:44:07 <pbrobinson> earlier than 9pm would be nice, I think it's 10pm for hrw
20:44:19 <hrw> but after bit of thinking 2200 is fine
20:44:39 <hrw> if I need to put my daughter to sleep then I miss 2100 one
20:45:41 <hrw> working with US based team messed my work time anyway ;D (not first time)
20:46:00 <bconoboy> Okay, just start with biweekly?
20:46:35 <masta> yeah fortnightly is a good start, progress!
20:46:40 <bconoboy> +1
20:47:02 <bconoboy> that'll put the next meeting the day before test day which sounds good
20:47:32 <pwhalen> agreed, anything else?
20:47:42 <pwhalen> email for whenisgood will come shortly
20:47:50 <dgilmore> fortnightly it is
20:48:02 <dgilmore> bconoboy: learn the right lingo :P
20:48:38 <hrw> dgilmore: I will forget fortnight word during night
20:48:50 <bconoboy> #agreed fedora-arm meeting moving to forthnightly cadence
20:49:08 <hrw> is it some kind of old british-celt-norman word?
20:49:33 <bconoboy> hrw: In the US we only hear fortnight when watching period costume dramas
20:49:45 <hrw> wikipedia says: The word derives from the Old English: fēowertyne niht, meaning "fourteen nights".
20:50:35 <hrw> I try to keep my english closer to british than american but not so close to remember fortnight ;D
20:50:50 <dgilmore> hrw: ill remind you daily :P
20:51:19 <pwhalen> last call..
20:51:30 <pbrobinson> hrw: dealing with dgilmore and I will keep you up to speed in proper english ;-)
20:51:53 <dgilmore> pwhalen: test test test, then file bugs
20:51:57 <dgilmore> that is all
20:52:34 <hrw> pbrobinson: I had worked with UK based company for 18 months - it did lot to unamerican my english.
20:52:36 <masta> there are millifortnight units
20:53:00 <masta> 20 minutes
20:53:03 <hrw> there is one simple reason for me to forget it: there is no Polish word for it
20:53:18 <hrw> 3...
20:53:23 <pwhalen> #info Please add your preference for our meeting time: http://whenisgood.net/39kpwq8
20:53:28 <hrw> 2...
20:53:34 <dgilmore> uno
20:53:42 <pwhalen> #undo
20:53:42 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by pwhalen at 20:53:23 : Please add your preference for our meeting time: http://whenisgood.net/39kpwq8
20:53:43 <pwhalen> sorry
20:53:55 <pwhalen> times were off
20:54:22 <pwhalen> will send to the list
20:54:35 <pwhalen> #endmeeting