14:30:20 <nirik> #startmeeting RELENG (2014-10-20)
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14:30:20 <nirik> #meetingname releng
14:30:20 <nirik> #chair dgilmore nirik tyll sharkcz bochecha masta pbrobinson
14:30:20 <nirik> #topic init process
14:30:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng'
14:30:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: bochecha dgilmore masta nirik pbrobinson sharkcz tyll
14:30:28 <nirik> who all is around for a releng meeting
14:30:36 * sharkcz is here
14:30:42 <bochecha> I'm here
14:30:43 <janeznemanic> hi
14:32:10 <nirik> morning. I didn't send an agenda, because I forgot to. ;)
14:32:17 <nirik> dgilmore-bne is traveling today.
14:33:31 * masta is here
14:33:35 <masta> hiya
14:34:00 <nirik> cool. lets start with secondary arches?
14:34:06 <nirik> #topic Secondary Architectures update - s390
14:34:18 <nirik> anything new and exciting?
14:34:36 <sharkcz> I was on PTO last week, so nothing new to report
14:34:54 <sharkcz> except Peter signed f21 rpms
14:35:12 <nirik> cool.
14:35:20 <nirik> #topic Secondary Architectures update - ppc
14:35:26 <nirik> anything with ppc?
14:35:41 <sharkcz> no Peter, so Ill
14:35:53 <nirik> yeah.
14:36:01 <sharkcz> stil lworking on Alpha, one last blocker in blivet should be resolved today, so we are close
14:36:20 <nirik> cool.
14:36:30 <nirik> how are thinking looking for beta there? or hard to say until alpha is out?
14:36:58 <sharkcz> actually the ppc alpha is very close to beta in primary
14:37:29 <nirik> great
14:37:46 <nirik> anything else on ppc?
14:37:52 <sharkcz> nope
14:37:58 <nirik> #topic Secondary Architectures update - arm
14:39:18 <nirik> anything for arm? I guess no peter here either. ;)
14:40:00 <sharkcz> yes, out of my scope :-)
14:40:30 <nirik> One thing I'll note here: we may be moving arm and ppc stuff to their own racks at some point. Consolidate them in one place and such...
14:40:47 <nirik> probibly will need to be short downtimes to move things, but then they will all be on the same serial/etc
14:41:13 <nirik> it's still in the planning stages... just a early headsup
14:41:29 <sharkcz> ok, thanks for update
14:41:46 <nirik> #topic tickets
14:41:48 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/report/10
14:41:58 <nirik> is there any specific tickets folks wanted to talk about?
14:42:35 <nirik> some of those are waiting on more data...
14:43:31 <pbabinca> #6016 - do you think it does make a sense to proceed with the ticket or decide gather more info if that's good idea?
14:44:17 <bochecha> pbabinca, can you maybe provide a list of packages that don't get installed with this change?
14:44:20 <nirik> I don't see a problem with doing it... I guess I'd like dgilmore to chime in before we implement, but seems ok
14:44:30 <nirik> how much time does it save?
14:45:01 <pbabinca> nirik, I don't have the data yet.
14:45:09 <bochecha> nirik, not just time, but also, the odds of breaing the buildroot are lower if less packages get installed
14:45:12 <sharkcz> or how many packages?
14:45:16 <pbabinca> bochecha, true that.
14:45:24 <nirik> we already do this for rhel5 I think build roots?
14:46:01 <pbabinca> We implement new features in fedpkg and that means change of build root package.
14:46:03 <sharkcz> can it affect the minimal buildroot content mentioned in the guuidelines?
14:46:54 <nirik> this would only be for srpm right?
14:47:09 <pbabinca> nirik, yes. But that's all what fedpkg is used for there.
14:47:14 <nirik> yeah
14:47:34 <bochecha> sharkcz, no it wouldn't, this is only for the srpm-build group, not the build one
14:47:35 <sharkcz> ah, then https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines?rd=Packaging/Guidelines#Exceptions_2 won't be affected
14:49:02 <nirik> right.
14:50:17 <nirik> so, lets ping dgilmore-bne when he's back on line about it... see if he sees any problems...
14:50:25 <nirik> but seems fine to me off hand.
14:51:08 <nirik> anything else on this? or other tickets folks would like to discuss?
14:52:49 * pbrobinson is here
14:52:56 <nirik> hey pbrobinson
14:53:08 <nirik> anything you want to note or mention?
14:53:51 <pbrobinson> nope, all looks good here
14:54:05 <nirik> sharkcz: on 6014 did you get a list of builds? did we sort that out?
14:54:15 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6014
14:54:17 <pbrobinson> I did primary tc4 Friday night and it mostly went to plan from a rel-eng and my access POV
14:54:27 <nirik> cool.
14:56:01 <sharkcz> nirik: I don't have the list, sorry, maybe pbrobinson has one from arm koji?
14:56:52 <pbrobinson> no, unfortunately I don't
14:57:01 <nirik> ok.
14:57:58 <nirik> I guess we update that as we can...
14:58:09 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
14:58:17 <nirik> anything for open floor?
14:58:35 <pbrobinson> not from me
14:59:23 <pbrobinson> I'm hoping we can close out ppc alpha this week, aarch64 alpha is done, announce tomorrow and we'll then move straight into beta at basically the same cnadince as mainline
14:59:35 <pbrobinson> candice ...
14:59:49 <nirik> :) ok. cool.
15:00:16 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute...
15:00:59 <bochecha> I have a couple of mash patches still awaiting for reviewx
15:01:12 <bochecha> if anyone with commit access has time, they are on the mailing-list :)
15:02:03 <nirik> bochecha: cool.
15:02:11 <pbrobinson> bochecha: mailing list or BZ??
15:02:23 <nirik> BTW, threebean is working on getting a staging compose box... so we can test mash changes.
15:02:27 <bochecha> pbrobinson, rel-eng mailing-list
15:03:03 <bochecha> pbrobinson, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/rel-eng/2014-September/018424.html and https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/rel-eng/2014-September/018425.html
15:04:41 <nirik> bochecha: cool. BTW, if you have time/desire we are having problems with a max delta rpm patch we made to mash...
15:04:53 <nirik> thats what threebean wanted to work on debugging.
15:05:12 <bochecha> nirik, sure, what can I do?
15:05:27 <nirik> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1081622
15:05:43 <nirik> if you see anything wrong with the patch or why it wouldn't be working, chime in. ;)
15:06:21 <nirik> anyhow, thanks for coming everyone!
15:06:24 <nirik> #endmeeting