14:30:20 #startmeeting RELENG (2014-10-20) 14:30:20 Meeting started Mon Oct 20 14:30:20 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:30:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:30:20 #meetingname releng 14:30:20 #chair dgilmore nirik tyll sharkcz bochecha masta pbrobinson 14:30:20 #topic init process 14:30:20 The meeting name has been set to 'releng' 14:30:20 Current chairs: bochecha dgilmore masta nirik pbrobinson sharkcz tyll 14:30:28 who all is around for a releng meeting 14:30:36 * sharkcz is here 14:30:42 I'm here 14:30:43 hi 14:32:10 morning. I didn't send an agenda, because I forgot to. ;) 14:32:17 dgilmore-bne is traveling today. 14:33:31 * masta is here 14:33:35 hiya 14:34:00 cool. lets start with secondary arches? 14:34:06 #topic Secondary Architectures update - s390 14:34:18 anything new and exciting? 14:34:36 I was on PTO last week, so nothing new to report 14:34:54 except Peter signed f21 rpms 14:35:12 cool. 14:35:20 #topic Secondary Architectures update - ppc 14:35:26 anything with ppc? 14:35:41 no Peter, so Ill 14:35:53 yeah. 14:36:01 stil lworking on Alpha, one last blocker in blivet should be resolved today, so we are close 14:36:20 cool. 14:36:30 how are thinking looking for beta there? or hard to say until alpha is out? 14:36:58 actually the ppc alpha is very close to beta in primary 14:37:29 great 14:37:46 anything else on ppc? 14:37:52 nope 14:37:58 #topic Secondary Architectures update - arm 14:39:18 anything for arm? I guess no peter here either. ;) 14:40:00 yes, out of my scope :-) 14:40:30 One thing I'll note here: we may be moving arm and ppc stuff to their own racks at some point. Consolidate them in one place and such... 14:40:47 probibly will need to be short downtimes to move things, but then they will all be on the same serial/etc 14:41:13 it's still in the planning stages... just a early headsup 14:41:29 ok, thanks for update 14:41:46 #topic tickets 14:41:48 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/report/10 14:41:58 is there any specific tickets folks wanted to talk about? 14:42:35 some of those are waiting on more data... 14:43:31 #6016 - do you think it does make a sense to proceed with the ticket or decide gather more info if that's good idea? 14:44:17 pbabinca, can you maybe provide a list of packages that don't get installed with this change? 14:44:20 I don't see a problem with doing it... I guess I'd like dgilmore to chime in before we implement, but seems ok 14:44:30 how much time does it save? 14:45:01 nirik, I don't have the data yet. 14:45:09 nirik, not just time, but also, the odds of breaing the buildroot are lower if less packages get installed 14:45:12 or how many packages? 14:45:16 bochecha, true that. 14:45:24 we already do this for rhel5 I think build roots? 14:46:01 We implement new features in fedpkg and that means change of build root package. 14:46:03 can it affect the minimal buildroot content mentioned in the guuidelines? 14:46:54 this would only be for srpm right? 14:47:09 nirik, yes. But that's all what fedpkg is used for there. 14:47:14 yeah 14:47:34 sharkcz, no it wouldn't, this is only for the srpm-build group, not the build one 14:47:35 ah, then https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines?rd=Packaging/Guidelines#Exceptions_2 won't be affected 14:49:02 right. 14:50:17 so, lets ping dgilmore-bne when he's back on line about it... see if he sees any problems... 14:50:25 but seems fine to me off hand. 14:51:08 anything else on this? or other tickets folks would like to discuss? 14:52:49 * pbrobinson is here 14:52:56 hey pbrobinson 14:53:08 anything you want to note or mention? 14:53:51 nope, all looks good here 14:54:05 sharkcz: on 6014 did you get a list of builds? did we sort that out? 14:54:15 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6014 14:54:17 I did primary tc4 Friday night and it mostly went to plan from a rel-eng and my access POV 14:54:27 cool. 14:56:01 nirik: I don't have the list, sorry, maybe pbrobinson has one from arm koji? 14:56:52 no, unfortunately I don't 14:57:01 ok. 14:57:58 I guess we update that as we can... 14:58:09 #topic Open Floor 14:58:17 anything for open floor? 14:58:35 not from me 14:59:23 I'm hoping we can close out ppc alpha this week, aarch64 alpha is done, announce tomorrow and we'll then move straight into beta at basically the same cnadince as mainline 14:59:35 candice ... 14:59:49 :) ok. cool. 15:00:16 ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute... 15:00:59 I have a couple of mash patches still awaiting for reviewx 15:01:12 if anyone with commit access has time, they are on the mailing-list :) 15:02:03 bochecha: cool. 15:02:11 bochecha: mailing list or BZ?? 15:02:23 BTW, threebean is working on getting a staging compose box... so we can test mash changes. 15:02:27 pbrobinson, rel-eng mailing-list 15:03:03 pbrobinson, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/rel-eng/2014-September/018424.html and https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/rel-eng/2014-September/018425.html 15:04:41 bochecha: cool. BTW, if you have time/desire we are having problems with a max delta rpm patch we made to mash... 15:04:53 thats what threebean wanted to work on debugging. 15:05:12 nirik, sure, what can I do? 15:05:27 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1081622 15:05:43 if you see anything wrong with the patch or why it wouldn't be working, chime in. ;) 15:06:21 anyhow, thanks for coming everyone! 15:06:24 #endmeeting