14:30:01 <nirik> #startmeeting RELENG (2014-11-10) 14:30:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Nov 10 14:30:01 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:30:02 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:30:02 <nirik> #meetingname releng 14:30:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng' 14:30:02 <nirik> #chair dgilmore nirik tyll sharkcz bochecha masta pbrobinson 14:30:02 <nirik> #topic init process 14:30:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: bochecha dgilmore masta nirik pbrobinson sharkcz tyll 14:30:10 <nirik> who all is around for a releng meeting? 14:30:15 <bochecha> I am 14:30:42 * pbabinca here 14:32:44 * sharkcz is here 14:33:06 * nirik will wait another minute or two for folks to wander in 14:35:13 <nirik> ok, I guess lets go ahead... 14:35:15 <nirik> #topic Secondary Architectures update - s390 14:35:23 <nirik> sharkcz: any news to report? 14:36:24 <sharkcz> not much, I created a compose a week ago, roughly like beta in primary, works fine, but there is a problem with writing to console in 3.17 kernel, bug is reported and IBM is looking on it 14:36:52 <nirik> ah, ok. 14:37:01 <nirik> so no official beta until thats squashed? 14:37:07 <sharkcz> bug #1158848 for the record, network login works 14:37:20 <sharkcz> yes 14:38:00 <nirik> ok, makes sense. 14:38:19 <nirik> no pbrobinson or masta, I guess we skip ppc and arm for now. 14:38:26 <nirik> #topic Tickets 14:38:36 <sharkcz> I can comment ppc a bit 14:38:41 <nirik> ok, coo. 14:38:47 <nirik> #topic Secondary Architectures update - ppc 14:39:32 <sharkcz> there is beta rc1, but is blocked by 2 issues - cryptsetup fails on arches with page size >=64k (ppc* and aarch64), fix exists upstream so I need to ask jwb to include it 14:40:18 <nirik> ok. 14:40:47 <sharkcz> another issue is multipath install, seems to work on x86 in minimal setup (kvm + 1 multipathed scsi disk), we are reproducing this setup on ppc and will see later today hopefully 14:41:35 <nirik> alright, sounds good. 14:41:42 <nirik> so hopefully soon for a beta 14:41:53 <sharkcz> yep 14:42:07 <nirik> excellent. thanks. 14:42:14 <nirik> #topic Tickets 14:42:23 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/report/10?sort=created&asc=1&page=1 14:42:30 <nirik> we have 14 tickets open with meeting... 14:42:39 <nirik> not sure which we can/should go over today 14:42:51 <nirik> (with many folks not here) 14:43:48 <nirik> sharkcz: did https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6014 get a final list? or do we even have a way to find out? 14:45:01 <sharkcz> I don't have the list at hand, but should be doable by a direct query to koji db 14:45:25 <sharkcz> question is whether it is worth the effort 14:45:39 <nirik> yeah, no idea on that part. perhaps it's just history now. 14:46:11 <sharkcz> yes, I'd close the ticket, very likely there are new builds for the affected packages 14:46:24 <nirik> ok. 14:46:46 <nirik> also https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6024 can probibly be closed, we discussed it last week and I think pingou already implemented what we talked about. 14:48:55 <nirik> ok, those closed. ;) then there were 12. ;) 14:50:06 <bochecha> 6039 seems like something we could solve quickly? 14:50:42 <nirik> bochecha: off hand I would say we could publish dumps, but I am not fully sure there's no sensitive info in there. 14:50:49 <nirik> I would want to check with dgilmore on that... 14:51:47 <nirik> we have a framework already in place for sharing db's... but not sure koji would be ok to share that way. 14:52:09 <sharkcz> but won't be the dumps too large? I have 7GB+ on s390, the dump, compressed 14:52:39 <sharkcz> and primary has much more info in it I guess 14:53:12 <nirik> huh... primary ones are only 1.3gbish 14:53:14 <bochecha> looking at the db for another koji, I can't think of anything that could be sensitive 14:53:25 <nirik> -rw-r--r--. 1 postgres postgres 1.3G Nov 10 04:55 koji-2014-11-10.dump.xz 14:53:48 <sharkcz> let me check it, I hope I read the scale correctly :-) 14:54:18 <sharkcz> ah, it's 700M ;-) 14:54:24 <nirik> cool. 14:55:13 <nirik> bochecha: I don't know if we setup initial admins when installing with passwords instead of certs? otherwise, yeah, not sure what could be sensitive. 14:55:30 <bochecha> nirik, ah, that maybe 14:56:11 <nirik> anyhow I can check with dgilmore and see what he thinks... it would be pretty trivial to add it to the db's we already make available. 14:56:40 <nirik> http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/infra/db-dumps/ (btw) 14:57:34 <nirik> any other tickets we think we can make progress on? or should we call it a short meeting? 14:58:13 <bochecha> about 6016, didn't we say we'd like some data about savings? 14:58:40 <sharkcz> #6023 - should we express our opinions the ticket? 14:59:19 <nirik> bochecha: yeah, you want to add a comment about that there? 14:59:39 <bochecha> pbabinca, did you have any time to look at savings from using fedpkg-minimal? :) 14:59:59 <pbabinca> bochecha, I haven't made any progress there. 15:00:00 <nirik> sharkcz: sure I guess. Again, I would want to check with dgilmore before adding any folks there... it's pretty sensitive... 15:00:12 <nirik> but we should/could add some more folks, especially in .eu 15:03:26 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 15:03:31 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor? 15:04:18 <tyll> can we decide something about https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6040 - e.g. can an existing systems be used for it? 15:05:09 <nirik> tyll: possibly releng04... but it's rhel6... does that present problems? 15:05:51 <tyll> nirik: uh, if I can login there, I can check - I only ran it on Fedora and RHEL7 15:06:23 <nirik> tyll: I can get you access to it if you don't have it already. 15:06:45 <nirik> thats the machine fedora updates pushes happen on, so it sends already bodhi emails and such. 15:06:52 <tyll> yes, I can access it 15:06:58 <nirik> or we could just make a new releng-backend or something. 15:07:26 <tyll> Can I add an ansible task for the cronjob for it or does it need to go into puppet? 15:08:33 <nirik> sadly, it's in puppet. 15:09:06 <nirik> let me think on it a bit more perhaps... 15:09:07 <tyll> the script does not work out-of-the box on it :-( 15:09:23 * nirik only saw the request this morning before coffee... and have had no time to ponder on it. 15:09:30 <tyll> ok 15:10:02 <nirik> ok, we can make a releng-backend01 perhaps. that makes more sense off hand anyhow. 15:12:09 <nirik> tyll: oh, where are we on rawhide autosigner? 15:13:51 <tyll> I just started looking into it again, it seems that secondary sigul is more stable than a few months ago (or it is because I am monitoring it now) 15:14:44 <nirik> I saw your report of an outage on it... no idea on that. I was asleep... nothing should have been changing on it. 15:14:59 <tyll> It seems to work quite good (still without rawhide gating), except that arm koji shows some issues sometimes 15:15:15 <tyll> ah, there is also something I need to investigate 15:15:37 <tyll> sometimes builds are not properly tagged on secondary kojis, even though a tagging fedmsg was sent earlier 15:15:42 <tyll> not sure if the packages are untagged again 15:16:15 <tyll> or if there is a race condition that makes koji send the fedmsg message before tagging was finished so a query for it fails 15:16:26 <nirik> ah...dunno. 15:16:47 <nirik> one side effect of the rawhide signing is we get the weird metadata problems with pungi making boot.img 15:17:01 <nirik> I think we should put a 'yum clean metadata' in there to work around it. 15:17:26 <tyll> does it fail if RPM checksums fail? 15:17:30 <tyll> checksums change? 15:17:38 <nirik> yeah... 15:18:04 <tyll> I see, this should not happen anymore when there is some gating in koji 15:18:21 <nirik> Error downloading packages: 15:18:21 <nirik> Delta RPM of 1:openssl-libs-1.0.1j-1.fc22.x86_64: Checksum of the delta-rebuilt RPM failed 15:18:35 <nirik> also, probibly it shouldn't be using deltas. ;) 15:18:42 <tyll> hehe 15:19:02 <nirik> anyhow, will see about adding a clean metadata in there. 15:19:32 <tyll> btw. would the releng cron mailing list be the right target to let autosigner report errors via e-mail? 15:20:21 <nirik> Oh, one other tidbit: I got all the builders re-isntalled/updated. they are all runinning 3.17.2-200.fc20 now (aside the ppc and bkernel ones) 15:20:30 <nirik> tyll: sounds good to me. +1 15:21:18 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute. 15:21:35 <tyll> btw. I also added scripts to releng-git a while ago to check whether packages are not signed when mashing them 15:21:50 <tyll> and one script to monitor sigul by checking whether login works every 10 minutes 15:22:01 <tyll> is the last one something that could be added to nagios? 15:22:05 <nirik> mash can check/reject them no? 15:22:10 <nirik> yes, definitely. 15:22:21 <nirik> if it was, then we could more quickly restart them if they got stuck. 15:22:24 <tyll> it looks into the mash logs, because there are only awrnings currently 15:22:53 <nirik> mash has a config option to treat that as a warn or a fail 15:22:58 <tyll> for the check script it would make sense to create a test key that is not used for anything to make it not that critical to use the credentials for it 15:23:12 <tyll> for Rawhide and secondary Branched it is a warning currently 15:23:39 <tyll> the scripts looks into the logs for the warning (I use it to see if autosigner signs all builds) 15:23:44 <nirik> yeah, for bodhi/updates it's strict fail 15:24:02 <nirik> we could make branched that way now too... 15:24:13 <nirik> yeah, test key sounds good. 15:24:17 <tyll> I believe it is for primary Branched 15:24:28 <tyll> ah, this reminds me of one more thing 15:24:56 <tyll> buildbranched and buildrawhide should be merged, but there is at least one diff where I am not sure whether it is intended that they differ 15:25:11 <nirik> yeah, we have wanted to merge them for a long time. ;) 15:25:28 <nirik> whats the diff? 15:25:30 <tyll> I synced most of them 15:25:49 <tyll> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/149368/56331421 15:26:01 <tyll> there is a call for wait 15:26:03 * masta wonders in late 15:28:24 <nirik> huh, no idea why thats there? 15:28:31 <nirik> oh, unless it needs all arches to finish? 15:28:39 <nirik> no, no idea 15:29:56 <tyll> so can it just be synced to buildrawhide? 15:30:34 <nirik> as far as I can tell. 15:30:45 <nirik> there's actually nothing being backgrounded there is there? 15:31:41 <tyll> pungify is 15:31:59 <tyll> and spam-o-matic 15:32:19 <nirik> ok, wonder why rawhide doesn't wait for those and branched does? 15:32:44 <nirik> I would think both should 15:33:23 <tyll> uh, actually both wait before pungify 15:33:47 <nirik> ok... lets continue this after meeting? 15:33:53 <tyll> but rawhide has an extra wait (So I confused both) 15:33:59 <tyll> ok 15:34:12 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 15:34:14 <nirik> #endmeeting