19:02:04 <kushal> #startmeeting
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19:02:11 <imcleod> Different room.....
19:02:18 <kushal> #meetingname Fedora Cloud SIG
19:02:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_cloud_sig'
19:02:27 <jzb> .hellomynameis jzb
19:02:28 <zodbot> jzb: jzb 'Joe Brockmeier' <jzb@redhat.com>
19:02:28 <roshi> .hello roshi
19:02:31 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <mruckman@redhat.com>
19:02:44 <kushal> imcleod, yes as there are clash with fesco meetings time to time.
19:02:45 <jsmith> .hellomynameis jsmith
19:02:46 <zodbot> jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' <jsmith.fedora@gmail.com>
19:02:49 <imcleod> .hellomynameis imcleod
19:02:49 <zodbot> imcleod: imcleod 'Ian McLeod' <imcleod@redhat.com>
19:02:52 <kushal> .topic rollcall :)
19:02:58 <kushal> #topic rollcall :)
19:03:07 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal
19:03:08 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <kushaldas@gmail.com>
19:03:12 * jsmith is pretty busy with ${DAYJOB} today, so I'll likely be only paying half attention
19:03:37 <kushal> Anyone else?
19:03:53 <Corey84-> .fasinfo corey84
19:03:54 <zodbot> Corey84-: User: corey84, Name: Corey84, email: sheldon.corey@gmail.com, Creation: 2014-11-28, IRC Nick: corey84-, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 02D670FD  1C9129B1 , Status: active
19:03:57 <zodbot> Corey84-: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca
19:04:18 <kushal> Corey84-, welcome :)
19:04:27 <Corey84-> kushal,  ty
19:04:54 <kushal> #topic Last meeting's action items
19:05:01 <Corey84-> been using roshi 's  testcloud to test the cloud waters
19:05:01 <kushal> * jzb to get a draft together for the copy on the docker page
19:05:02 <kushal> * others to contribute to the draft once it's done
19:05:02 <kushal> * roshi to update the criteria and close the ticket (#80)
19:05:07 * dustymabe here
19:05:12 <dustymabe> late
19:05:14 <kushal> Corey84-, it is very nice tool.
19:05:20 <kushal> dustymabe, just starting :)
19:05:56 <dustymabe> kushal: :)
19:06:12 <roshi> I have more stuff coming out for it soon too :)
19:06:26 * roshi finishes out that final ticket
19:06:35 <kushal> roshi, Okay, thanks.
19:06:56 <roshi> forgot in the final throws of the release :)
19:07:10 <Corey84-> roshi, no compliants from me on your tool short of the readme ommisions you already are aware of
19:07:35 <kushal> Corey84-, I have some small amount of doc for that
19:07:51 <kushal> http://worknotes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/cloudimages.html#how-to-test-a-koji-image-in-your-local-computer
19:08:01 <kushal> Going to current items.
19:08:16 <roshi> those got fixed Corey84- :)
19:08:16 <jzb> kushal: I feel like I did that (draft copy) but I'm not finding it in email or tickets.
19:08:17 <Corey84-> kushal, ty will read post mtg
19:08:32 <kushal> jzb, Ah, it happens to me also.
19:08:59 <jzb> I'm reasonably sure *something* happened b/c the typo (it's instead of its) is no longer there.)
19:09:06 <kushal> #topic Better text for the docker image page (#85)
19:09:50 <kushal> jzb, So in case you find it, please drop a note to the list.
19:10:10 <jzb> kushal: will do, but I think this is actually addressed.
19:10:17 <jzb> I'm just having trouble finding the paper trail.
19:10:33 <kushal> jzb, Okay, then you can close the ticket with that note.
19:10:48 <jzb> OK
19:10:50 <kushal> Going to next ticket.
19:11:00 <kushal> #topic publicize fedora-dockerfiles (#84)
19:11:04 <kushal> Long term process.
19:11:14 <kushal> Is there any update from anyone on this?
19:11:21 <jzb> kushal: give me 30 seconds and then refresh the ticket.
19:11:29 <kushal> jzb, :)
19:12:22 <kushal> Okay, moving to next topic.
19:12:32 <jzb> hang on
19:12:37 <kushal> jzb, Okay.
19:12:39 <jzb> so I added 3 tickets
19:12:48 <jzb> 1) post on how to use (and patch) dockerfiles post for FedMag
19:13:03 <jzb> question there - do we want to also put this on the wiki somewhere and if so, where?
19:13:46 <jzb> 2) Start tweeting and otherwise socializing individual Dockerfiles
19:14:00 <jzb> will need to work with marketing (well, also me, but hopefully others) there.
19:14:02 <Corey84-> kushal, let me know the links and i can/willing to post such things on my G+  (many IT and tech groups pages follow it)
19:14:19 <number80> jzb: I'd rather have it in the documentation
19:14:21 <jzb> 3) should we add a "dockerfile" section to the downloads page where the base Docker image lives?
19:14:29 <jzb> number80: where in the documentation? :-)
19:14:41 <jzb> number80: currently we .. don't have a lot of cloud docs, AFAIK
19:15:11 <kushal> We have blog posts but not much formal docs.
19:15:51 <jzb> ok we probably need to do something about that this cycle.
19:15:56 <kushal> #info We need more documentation for the Fedora Cloud things.
19:16:00 <jzb> s/probably/definitely
19:16:05 <kushal> jzb, +1
19:16:23 <number80> +1
19:16:33 <roshi> for sure
19:16:48 * number80 got disconnected
19:18:04 <kushal> Moving on then.
19:18:05 <jzb> Corey84-: as far as reposting
19:18:14 * kushal will wait.
19:18:16 <Corey84-> jzb,  more or less yes
19:18:24 <jzb> Corey84-: just follow the lead of the Fedora G+ page and Twitter acts.
19:18:27 <jzb> accounts
19:18:42 <jzb> EOF
19:18:52 <Corey84-> so in line with those and/ or repost them ?
19:19:37 <jzb> Corey84-: you can freestyle if you like, sure - or just RT/repost
19:19:40 * agrimm wanders in late and tries to rejoin the conversation
19:19:46 <jzb> Corey84-: but that will give you the links we're promoting
19:20:02 <jzb> Corey84-: we don't ATM have a good solution for propagating that ahead of time.
19:20:23 <Corey84-> jzb, consider it done ill start post mtg
19:20:39 <kushal> Going ahead now.
19:20:42 <jzb> Corey84-: awesome, thks
19:20:44 <jzb> kushal: thx
19:20:59 <kushal> #topic Public Uploaded Images Criteria (#80)
19:21:16 <kushal> roshi, already informed us that he will be posting more details on this.
19:21:27 <jsmith> Awesome :-)
19:21:37 <roshi> yeah, slipped my ming while finishing up the release
19:21:42 <roshi> mind, even
19:22:50 <jsmith> roshi: I can't imagine you were busy with testing the release, etc....
19:22:56 <jsmith> roshi: We'll forgive you :-)
19:23:10 <kushal> roshi, You actually did that? :p
19:23:15 <roshi> lol
19:23:27 <roshi> thanks jsmith :)
19:25:05 <kushal> #topic participation in OpenShift Commons (#83)
19:25:12 <kushal> No updates from my side.
19:25:12 <roshi> least we got the thing released and out to the world :) now to F22
19:26:53 <kushal> Anyone else heard anything?
19:26:57 <kushal> jzb, ^^?
19:27:13 <jzb> kushal: ISTR there was an exchange in Trac about this
19:27:16 <jzb> oh, no -email
19:27:21 <jzb> lemme look
19:28:09 <jzb> this was CC'ed to list
19:28:24 <jzb> from Diane: "
19:28:25 <jzb> I'll set you up as the primary contact and you can monitor the mailing list for Fedora questions. Adam Miller is giving a briefing in January on Ops & OpenShift, I may also ask him to do one on "deploying OpenShift on Fedora" if there's interest.."
19:28:35 <jzb> that was to mattdm
19:28:45 <jzb> so - I think we're in?
19:28:57 <jzb> and it's going to be on mattdm's plate to follow up
19:29:20 <jzb> EOF
19:29:25 <kushal> jzb, cool, thanks for the update.
19:29:28 <dustymabe> jzb: in january? where
19:29:52 <jzb> dustymabe: I think Google Hangout
19:30:12 <jzb> ISTR the OpenShift folks do a lot of stuff there
19:30:17 <dustymabe> nice.. I want to make sure I don't miss it
19:31:19 <roshi> same here
19:31:34 <dustymabe> is that part of a larger conference or a one off thing?
19:32:40 <jzb> dustymabe: it's OpenShift Commons - they're trying to bring together groups that are interested in Origin, etc.
19:32:54 <jzb> dustymabe: so this is sort of like the Cloud WG for Fedora sort kinda
19:32:57 <jzb> sorta
19:33:14 <dustymabe> got it. ok
19:33:19 <jzb> dustymabe: http://origin.openshift.com/commons
19:34:31 <jzb> kushal: I think we can keep going
19:34:44 <kushal> #topic Open Floor
19:34:59 <kushal> I will start a thread the list about the ideas for F22.
19:35:04 <jzb> kushal: +1
19:35:15 <jzb> I have 3 things
19:35:33 <jzb> 1) I've requested a room for a Cloud/Atomic FAD at SCALE on Sunday 22 February
19:35:43 <jzb> I think I need to coordinate with the ambassadors on that.
19:36:04 <jzb> but I'm mentioning here b/c I'd like to get as many cloudy folks to SCALE as we can.
19:36:23 <jzb> and pull in folks from upstreams to participate
19:36:27 <roshi> where is SCALE?
19:36:32 <roshi> and what is it?
19:36:32 <jzb> roshi: Los Angeles
19:36:43 <jzb> roshi: it's a LinuxFest
19:36:55 <jzb> roshi: best / largest Linuxfest in North America, really
19:36:56 <roshi> ah, sweet
19:36:57 <jzb> great audience
19:37:07 <kushal> I wish USA was little bit closer.
19:37:15 <jzb> kushal: to what? :-)
19:37:26 <kushal> jzb, India :p
19:37:27 <dustymabe> jzb: sounds freaking awesome. I wish I didn't have work
19:37:41 <jzb> dustymabe: well, it is two months away... ;-)
19:37:41 <kushal> jzb, Then it would have been easier to attend the confs.
19:37:47 <jzb> dustymabe: also, it's a weekend event
19:38:10 <jzb> kushal: ack
19:38:10 <roshi> never been to LA
19:38:27 <jzb> roshi: I've been almost every year since 2006
19:38:38 <jzb> roshi: I've seen very little of LA outside the conf hotel.
19:38:48 <jzb> anyway - that's thing 1
19:38:51 * Corey84- is hoping to be able to make scale this year
19:38:54 <dustymabe> jzb: true. I want to go. might save my "golden ticket" for FLOCK next year though. I really want to go to that one
19:39:04 <jzb> dustymabe: fair enough
19:39:20 <jzb> Thing 2) Trac needs some love
19:39:40 <Corey84-> its mostly schedule  (know the ceo of hilton --where its held  accommandations are no issue)
19:39:54 <jzb> now that we're past F21 I'd like to suggest a concerted effort to triage and close tickets in Trac that are outdated.
19:40:16 <Corey84-> +1 for cleaning house in trac
19:40:26 <kushal> jzb, +1
19:40:28 <jzb> and would like to suggest that we are all empowered to close outdated tickets without discussion. They can always be reopened.
19:41:02 <jzb> Thing 3 we already touched on:
19:41:13 <jzb> Documentation - we need to do better here. Thoughts on how we do that?
19:41:25 <jzb> or should we open a discussion on the mailing list?
19:42:19 <dustymabe> jzb: I guess discussion.
19:43:09 <kushal> jzb, also keep a ticket which we can update with details on work done.
19:43:11 <dustymabe> I really want to be more involved in stuff like this and I think I will be after May of next year. I'm finishing up a Masters degree in my free time and that sucks up all of my Fedora cycles.
19:43:25 <dustymabe> After May I will be 100% done
19:43:33 <jzb> dustymabe: woo! Congrats.
19:43:38 <jzb> dustymabe: that's fantastic.
19:43:50 <jzb> kushal: OK
19:44:00 <kushal> dustymabe, cool.
19:44:01 <dustymabe> jzb: which means I might be more of a pain in your butt :)
19:44:16 <jzb> dustymabe: I doubt that
19:44:40 * jzb leaves it ambiguous whether he means dustymabe is not a pain, or it's not possible to be moreso.
19:44:47 <dustymabe> :)
19:44:48 <kushal> haha
19:45:11 <dustymabe> btw what is the schedule for F22.. how many months do we have to create some awesomeness?
19:45:16 <jzb> that's all I've got - sorry for being so noisy
19:45:46 <jzb> dustymabe: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/22/Schedule?rd=Releases/22
19:46:00 <jzb> dustymabe: May is the target right now.
19:46:34 <dustymabe> jzb: great.. right before I get done
19:46:55 <roshi> awesome dustymabe :)
19:46:57 <dustymabe> well F23 will be awesome.. mark my words
19:47:15 <kushal> dustymabe, hahaha
19:47:23 <roshi> lol
19:47:35 <dustymabe> btw quick Digital Ocean update.. Things have stalled a bit with them because they are in a "sprint" within their infra. things will resume back after this week
19:47:44 <dustymabe> hoping to have something next week or the week after.
19:48:37 <roshi> cool
19:48:52 <kushal> dustymabe, Thanks for the update
19:48:54 * roshi will be cleaning up testCloud since people use it now
19:49:14 <roshi> with an eye to add support for other distros as well, and some saner configuration options
19:49:21 <kushal> roshi, I should submit the vnc patch
19:49:29 <roshi> you did already, I think
19:49:34 <kushal> roshi, oh
19:49:44 <kushal> roshi, I would still love to keep it simple.
19:50:03 <roshi> I meant for people to use it, but didn't actually *expect* anyone to, so now I've got to clean it up and probably will package it
19:50:13 <roshi> it'll stay simple :)
19:50:31 * roshi is pretty simple
19:50:42 <dustymabe> roshi: that's what zuckerberg said about facebook
19:50:47 * dustymabe kids
19:50:50 <kushal> dustymabe, hehe
19:51:12 <roshi> haha
19:51:20 <roshi> well, I'm no zuckerberg :)
19:51:33 <dustymabe> ok guys. I've got to run. see you next week (and on the mailing list)
19:51:44 <roshi> even my desk is simple - homemade from 2x4s and plywood :)
19:51:51 <roshi> take care dustymabe !
19:51:52 <kushal> Then finishing the meeting in 5
19:51:54 <jzb> roshi: yay! F22 package?
19:51:54 <kushal> 4
19:52:02 <roshi> yeah, that's the plan
19:52:07 * kushal stops the counting
19:52:28 <kushal> roshi, If you want I can do that for you :)
19:52:44 <roshi> I need to get a better handle on the packaging thing anyways
19:52:51 * roshi wants to learn that better
19:53:03 <roshi> I'll for sure ping you for a review request though :)
19:53:13 <kushal> :)
19:53:22 <kushal> Closing the meeting then.
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19:53:33 <kushal> #endmeeting