#fedora-meeting-1: fpc

Meeting started by geppetto at 17:00:54 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (geppetto, 17:00:56)
  2. Schedule (geppetto, 17:05:30)
    1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2015-March/010497.html (geppetto, 17:05:32)

  3. #503 Changes/LegacyJDKsInFedora (geppetto, 17:05:47)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/503 (geppetto, 17:05:47)
    2. ACTION: Someone needs to make a draft of what you'd like us to vote on, like recommended package naming. (geppetto, 17:08:48)

  4. #508 New GID for openstack-neutron (geppetto, 17:08:57)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/508 (geppetto, 17:09:02)
    2. ACTION: If you setup LDAP before package install then it'll just work with "dynamic" GIDs. (geppetto, 17:21:57)
    3. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/openstack-trove.git/tree/openstack-trove.spec#n276 (mbooth, 17:22:12)
    4. ACTION: If you still think you need a static GID, you need to give a better reason than just "it might be easier". Eg. shared storage. (geppetto, 17:23:09)

  5. #509 Further bootstrapping guideline changes (geppetto, 17:23:18)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/509 (geppetto, 17:23:22)
    2. ACTION: Seems that people do use --with/--without for bootstrapping … so we can't just get rid of it. A new policy to vote on that has a changable default and reacts to --with--without would be nice. Maybe bcond? (geppetto, 17:37:20)

  6. #126 bundling exception for scintilla (geppetto, 17:38:16)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/126 (geppetto, 17:38:23)
    2. ACTION: Given the scope of the bundling here, we need input from the other package maintainers. At the very least they should have bundled() provides, better would be to help unbundle this giant mess. (geppetto, 17:47:49)

  7. #248 python-feedgenerator - a standalone version of a bundled library (geppetto, 17:48:09)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/248 (geppetto, 17:48:14)
    2. ACTION: what spot said in comment #8 makes sense to us; if you still want this and that doesn't work, reopen. (geppetto, 17:54:21)

  8. #303 Consider reverting decision to ban %{?_isa} in BuildRequires (geppetto, 17:55:16)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/303 (geppetto, 17:55:17)
    2. ACTION: We have no problem changing this _if the tools work_. yum-builddep doesn't, the dnf builddep rewrite also doesn't work. koschei which is a new Fedora tool also relies on not having to download/extract .src.rpm files. (geppetto, 18:15:00)
    3. ACTION: So if you want to change policy here someone will have to speak to and work with all the tool authors to make sure the tools still work, if they do then changing policy should be trivial. (geppetto, 18:15:59)

  9. #497 Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the minimal build en (geppetto, 18:16:18)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/497 (geppetto, 18:16:23)

  10. Open Floor (geppetto, 18:17:38)
  11. #510 Bundling exception for takari-archiver (geppetto, 18:19:12)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/510 (geppetto, 18:19:28)
    2. ACTION: Bundling exception for FileMode in takari-archiver (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 18:23:58)

  12. Open Floor (geppetto, 18:24:03)
    1. Lots more talking about ticket 303, arched build requires and using _isa in buildrequires (geppetto, 19:05:15)


Meeting ended at 19:09:35 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. Someone needs to make a draft of what you'd like us to vote on, like recommended package naming.
  2. If you setup LDAP before package install then it'll just work with "dynamic" GIDs.
  3. If you still think you need a static GID, you need to give a better reason than just "it might be easier". Eg. shared storage.
  4. Seems that people do use --with/--without for bootstrapping … so we can't just get rid of it. A new policy to vote on that has a changable default and reacts to --with--without would be nice. Maybe bcond?
  5. Given the scope of the bundling here, we need input from the other package maintainers. At the very least they should have bundled() provides, better would be to help unbundle this giant mess.
  6. what spot said in comment #8 makes sense to us; if you still want this and that doesn't work, reopen.
  7. We have no problem changing this _if the tools work_. yum-builddep doesn't, the dnf builddep rewrite also doesn't work. koschei which is a new Fedora tool also relies on not having to download/extract .src.rpm files.
  8. So if you want to change policy here someone will have to speak to and work with all the tool authors to make sure the tools still work, if they do then changing policy should be trivial.
  9. Bundling exception for FileMode in takari-archiver (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0)


People present (lines said)

  1. geppetto (164)
  2. tibbs|w (86)
  3. dgilmore (56)
  4. mizdebsk (39)
  5. mbooth (24)
  6. tomspur (17)
  7. racor (15)
  8. SmootherFrOgZ (8)
  9. zodbot (7)
  10. tibbs (0)


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