15:01:31 <sgallagh> #startmeeting Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-03-31) 15:01:32 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Mar 31 15:01:31 2015 UTC. The chair is sgallagh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:32 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:32 <sgallagh> #chair sgallagh mizmo nirik stefw adamw simo tuanta mitr danofsatx 15:01:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw danofsatx mitr mizmo nirik sgallagh simo stefw tuanta 15:01:32 <sgallagh> #topic roll call 15:01:52 * nirik is here but also in a phone meeting 15:04:08 <sgallagh> .hello sgallagh 15:04:09 <zodbot> sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' <sgallagh@redhat.com> 15:04:14 <sgallagh> Anyone else here? 15:04:17 <simo> .hello simo 15:04:19 <zodbot> simo: simo 'Simo Sorce' <ssorce@redhat.com> 15:04:26 <mizmo> .hello duffy 15:04:27 <zodbot> mizmo: duffy 'Máirín Duffy' <fedora@linuxgrrl.com> 15:05:42 <junland> .hello junland 15:05:43 <zodbot> junland: junland 'John Unland' <opensourcejohn2112@gmail.com> 15:05:44 <sgallagh> small crowd today 15:05:56 <junland> Sorry was doing some pushs to github 15:06:06 <junland> and sitting in networking class 15:06:56 <sgallagh> ok, so let's get started. 15:07:02 <sgallagh> #topic Agenda 15:07:02 <sgallagh> #info Agenda Item: F22 Beta Freeze 15:07:02 <sgallagh> #info Agenda Item: Rolekit Testing 15:07:15 <sgallagh> Other pressing agenda items? 15:07:21 <junland> Nope. 15:08:05 <sgallagh> #topic F22 Beta Freeze 15:08:18 <sgallagh> So, Fedora 22 is now in Beta Freeze (shocking, I know) 15:08:56 <sgallagh> Unfortunately, the TC6 that arrived this morning did not have content from the latest stable push (including Cockpit), so we'll probably wait to do a full validation until TC7/RC1 hits. 15:09:11 * nirik nods 15:09:23 <junland> mhm 15:10:53 <sgallagh> We also don't have the updated pwpolicy changes yet 15:11:36 <nirik> and the yum update that pulls in dnf-yum broke things. 15:11:39 <sgallagh> However the defaults are going to change for the next anaconda build to include the double-click option. 15:11:48 <junland> Do we have any documentation about the pwpolicy? 15:11:55 <sgallagh> Right, so it's effectively DoA 15:11:56 <junland> well old policy 15:12:21 <sgallagh> junland: Not really, no. 15:13:09 <junland> What problems were we having with the pwpolicy? 15:13:18 <sgallagh> So in general, I'd call our Beta Freeze situation "yellow" 15:13:42 <sgallagh> junland: Mind if we discuss that outside the meeting? It's a long topic. 15:13:47 <mizmo> junland, drama drama 15:13:51 <junland> Yes. :) 15:14:40 <sgallagh> #info TC6 is lacking content from the last stable updates push 15:14:53 <sgallagh> #info TC6 does not include the pwpolicy changes yet 15:15:16 <sgallagh> #info The addition of dnf-yum was broken on TC6 15:15:21 <sgallagh> Other topics 15:16:36 <sgallagh> Anyone else aware of stuff worth monitoring for Beta? 15:16:58 <sgallagh> I have some rolekit stuff, but I've got a separate agenda item about that 15:17:14 * mizmo got nuttin' 15:18:00 * junland got nuttin' either 15:18:23 <sgallagh> #topic Rolekit Testing 15:18:37 <sgallagh> I sent out an email with a test plan for the latest rolekit with DB role support 15:19:08 <sgallagh> I got a little testing from stefw last night, which stumbled across a fairly serious bug that I'm going to have a fix for in a couple hours. 15:19:42 <sgallagh> (Basically, there's a flaw in the multiple instance support where if you make a mistake deploying the first instance, none of the others will work until you decommission all instances and start over) 15:20:37 <sgallagh> However, I still need some people to test the DB role support (as well as the multiple instance support) 15:21:03 <sgallagh> This is one of our more prominent features for Fedora 22 and it really needs to be in the Beta relese. 15:21:04 <junland> I can spare some time later tonight to run a test case 15:21:39 <sgallagh> #info Testing help needed on rolekit, test plan at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-March/001795.html 15:22:08 <sgallagh> #info rolekit test examples at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-March/001797.html 15:22:31 <junland> Do we have a TC table for the DB role? 15:22:32 <sgallagh> junland: Thanks. I should have an updated build to fix the first-instance bug within two hours. 15:22:42 <junland> Got it. 15:22:44 <sgallagh> adamw: ^^ 15:23:01 <sgallagh> adamw was going to put one together, I don't know if he has yet. 15:23:18 <junland> Alright. 15:23:31 <sgallagh> adamw: Please feel free to crib from the above emails as well 15:23:53 <sgallagh> OK, I don't think I have anything else on this topic, unless there are further questions. 15:24:37 <junland> Nope. 15:24:52 <sgallagh> #topic Open Floor 15:25:21 <sgallagh> mizmo: one thing that just occurred to me: Are we planning to do any revisions on the getfedora.org brochure site this time around? 15:25:33 <sgallagh> I figure if we are, we should start coordinating it ASAP 15:26:12 <Corey84> .fas Corey84 15:26:12 <zodbot> Corey84: corey84 'Corey84' <sheldon.corey@gmail.com> 15:26:37 <mizmo> sgallagh, we can as the wgs request it but nobody has yet 15:27:14 <junland> I think it would be good to highlight the DB role and other features. 15:27:15 <sgallagh> mizmo: I guess what I mean is whether we want to be updating screenshots/testimonials or anything like that. 15:28:37 <mizmo> besides the DB role what else do we think is worth adding? 15:28:51 <junland> Rolekit or Cockpit? 15:28:55 <sgallagh> mizmo: We almost certainly need to refresh the Cockpit screens 15:29:00 <sgallagh> It looks very different in F22 15:29:08 <mizmo> ah okay 15:29:10 * mizmo starts a list 15:29:15 <sgallagh> #topic getfedora.org updates 15:29:28 <sgallagh> mizmo: Mind adding the list as #info while we go? 15:29:45 <mizmo> not at all 15:29:49 <mizmo> #info highlight DB role 15:29:56 <mizmo> #info update cockpit screenshots 15:30:06 <mizmo> any role kit updates worth capturing? 15:30:18 <sgallagh> The DB role is the major piece. 15:30:43 <sgallagh> mizmo: Do we want to consider making another attempt at a rolekit logo this time? 15:31:23 <mizmo> sgallagh, i dont think any of the other -kits have a logo unless they have a gui component (the only one i can think of is package kit) 15:32:00 <sgallagh> mizmo: I was thinking of something to add a visualization to the brochure page, since it's kind of abstract. 15:32:18 <sgallagh> But I will defer to your expertise on the matter :) 15:32:20 <mizmo> kk 15:32:25 <mizmo> #info consider rolekit visualization 15:33:07 <sgallagh> Since people have actually been using F21 for a while, shall we solicit some new quotes? 15:33:19 <mizmo> sounds good to me 15:33:23 * junland agrees 15:33:23 <mizmo> #info solicit new quotes for server page 15:34:30 <mizmo> anybody around want to provide a new quote? :)? 15:34:50 <junland> I can if no one else will... 15:34:53 <junland> :) 15:34:58 <simo> "I use fedora because I am an old fart" 15:35:00 * simo runs 15:35:01 <sgallagh> mizmo: I'd like to get andreasn from the Cockpit team to quote on the Domain Controller role, since he had an excellent experience with it 15:35:04 <junland> haha 15:35:05 <sgallagh> (Compared to rolling his own) 15:35:28 <mizmo> #info quote: andreasn from the Cockpit team to quote on the Domain Controller role, since he had an excellent experience with it 15:35:39 <nirik> cool. 15:36:34 <sgallagh> OK, other ideas? That's certainly enough to get started with. 15:36:51 <junland> Not that I can think of. 15:38:23 <sgallagh> mizmo: Good? 15:38:56 <mizmo> sounds good to me, i will shout if i need help 15:39:37 <sgallagh> Thanks! 15:39:44 <sgallagh> #topic Open Floor (take two) 15:39:49 <sgallagh> Anything else for Open Floor? 15:40:48 <junland> Nope. 15:41:19 <sgallagh> OK, setting the fuse for 120s then. 15:42:15 <sgallagh> simo: sidebar: to translate your quote into marketing-speak: "I use Fedora because of its long history of reliability." ;-) 15:42:45 <simo> sgallagh: mine had a punch that is kinda lost here :) 15:43:24 <sgallagh> OK, thanks for coming! 15:43:28 <sgallagh> #endmeeting