17:00:44 <kushal> #startmeeting Cloud WG 17:00:44 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 18 17:00:44 2015 UTC. The chair is kushal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:44 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:48 <number80> o/ 17:00:50 <kushal> #topic Roll Call 17:00:56 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal 17:00:57 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <mail@kushaldas.in> 17:01:00 <number80> .hello hguemar 17:01:01 <zodbot> number80: hguemar 'Haïkel Guémar' <karlthered@gmail.com> 17:01:13 <jbrooks> .hello jasonbrooks 17:01:14 <zodbot> jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'Jason Brooks' <JBROOKS@REDHAT.COM> 17:01:22 <trishnag> .hellomynameis trishnag 17:01:23 <zodbot> trishnag: trishnag 'Trishna Guha' <trishnaguha17@gmail.com> 17:01:27 <fhackdroid> .hello farhaan 17:01:28 <zodbot> fhackdroid: farhaan 'Farhaan Bukhsh' <farhaan.bukhsh@gmail.com> 17:01:32 <dustymabe> .hellomynameis dustymabe 17:01:33 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com> 17:01:38 <maxamillion> .hello maxamillion 17:01:39 <zodbot> maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' <maxamillion@gmail.com> 17:02:18 <kushal> Anyone else ? 17:03:25 <kushal> #topic Action items from last meeting 17:03:27 <kushal> * kushal will blog post about getting more volunteers for manual qa + 17:03:27 <kushal> test coverage. 17:03:27 <kushal> * dustymabe will do a PR to add ansible steps in 17:03:27 <kushal> https://github.com/fedora-cloud/fedoracloud 17:03:28 <kushal> * rtnpro will help to create nulecule examples in fedora-dockerfiles 17:03:43 <kushal> I did a blog post. 17:03:45 <kushal> https://kushaldas.in/posts/need-help-to-test-fedora-cloud-images.html 17:04:09 <dustymabe> I did the fpaste for ansible but I didn't send a PR 17:04:10 <kushal> A few volunteers signed up https://github.com/kushaldas/tunirtests/wiki#list-of-new-volunteers-for-cloud-image-testing 17:04:27 <dustymabe> kushal: yay 17:04:33 <kushal> dustymabe, I can commit it, but then I will not have you as author :) 17:04:42 <kushal> I mean in git commits 17:04:54 <imcleod> .hellomynameis imcleod 17:04:55 <zodbot> imcleod: imcleod 'Ian McLeod' <imcleod@redhat.com> 17:05:09 <kushal> I also opened a ticket to get cloud access to these volunteers. 17:05:12 <kushal> imcleod, hello there 17:05:37 <rtnpro> .fas rtnpro 17:05:37 <zodbot> rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' <rtnpro@gmail.com> 17:06:12 <dustymabe> kushal: should we do like some of the other content there and just point to the original articile? 17:06:15 <kushal> rtnpro, any update from your side? 17:06:20 <dustymabe> so point a subsection to the fed mag post? 17:06:41 <rtnpro> kushal, I started taking a look at the task 17:06:52 <kushal> dustymabe, or we can keep the whole there, because we will update this as of when required 17:07:11 <kushal> rtnpro, can you please create ticket in the trac so that we know the update? 17:07:11 <rtnpro> kushal, I need to discuss with scollier to find the right way to do it 17:07:18 <kushal> rtnpro, good. 17:07:20 <rtnpro> kushal, ok 17:07:42 <kushal> #action rtnpro to open a trac ticket to create nulecule examples in fedora-dockerfiles 17:09:39 * adimania is sorry for being late 17:09:59 <kushal> adimania, welcome 17:10:03 <kushal> just starting 17:10:08 <kushal> Moving to tickets. 17:10:16 <kushal> #topic Fedora Cloud FAD (late 2015/early 2016) https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/115 17:10:49 <dustymabe> I updated the ticket with some comments 17:11:01 <dustymabe> move to next ticket unless someone else has anything 17:11:25 <kushal> Anyone else? 17:11:33 <kushal> Moving to next. 17:11:35 <kushal> #topic Migrate all Dockerfiles / Images to systemd where possible https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/121 17:12:38 <kushal> sadly praveenkumar is missing here. 17:12:43 <kushal> adimania, do you know anything 17:12:44 <kushal> ? 17:12:59 <adimania> nope. I am not working on this one 17:13:33 <kushal> Okay 17:13:43 <kushal> i will ping praveenkumar and scoiler to know more. 17:14:04 <kushal> #topic fedora-dockerfiles: Clean up READMEs. https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/122 17:14:09 <kushal> gholms, welcome :) 17:14:15 <gholms> o/ 17:14:33 <adimania> anyone heard about this one from coolsvap? 17:14:48 <kushal> Nope 17:15:06 <kushal> I am not in pune right now, means can not ask him face to face. 17:15:17 <kushal> But I will send the message. 17:15:37 <kushal> #action kushal will ask coolsvap for an update on https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/122 17:15:56 <kushal> Moving next 17:16:00 <kushal> #topic Document process for using Fedora-Dockerfile branches https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/123 17:16:40 <adimania> This is done from my point of view. I want someone to review the doc and then we can close it. 17:17:06 <kushal> Who can review the doc? Any volunteers? 17:17:25 <maxamillion> I'll review 17:17:31 <dustymabe> maxamillion: thanks! 17:17:42 <adimania> cool. here is the link: https://github.com/fedora-cloud/Fedora-Dockerfiles/wiki/Guidelines-for-Creating-Dockerfiles#branches-in-fedora-dockerfiles-repo 17:17:50 <kushal> #action maxamillion will review https://github.com/fedora-cloud/Fedora-Dockerfiles/wiki/Guidelines-for-Creating-Dockerfiles#branches-in-fedora-dockerfiles-repo 17:17:53 <kushal> :) 17:17:57 <kushal> maxamillion, Thank you :) 17:18:31 <maxamillion> certainly 17:18:35 <kushal> #topic Fedora-Dockerfiles examples for Kubernetes https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125 17:19:32 <adimania> I have added a repo for review which has 1 example each for pod, replication controller and service 17:19:45 <kushal> Again, who can review it? 17:20:08 <adimania> if this looks good, probably, we can move the repo or the content to WG's github. 17:20:24 <adimania> I think rtnpro was going to review and help in writing nulecule spec 17:21:00 <adimania> but if anyone else is interested, please go ahead. the more the better. :) 17:21:05 <kushal> rtnpro, ? 17:21:45 <rtnpro> adimania, I did not find time today to work on it 17:22:08 <rtnpro> adimania, I will push a PR with the Nulecule file tomorrow 17:22:53 <adimania> rtnpro, great. 17:23:17 <kushal> #action rtnpro will push a PR with Nulecule file for https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125 17:23:20 <kushal> rtnpro, Thanks :) 17:23:31 <kushal> #topic make docker archived image get imported with lowercase tag https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/131 17:24:09 <dustymabe> so I think imcleod opened an upstream issue on this 17:24:31 <kushal> imcleod, ^^ 17:24:41 <kushal> https://github.com/redhat-imaging/imagefactory/issues/359 17:24:43 <imcleod> dustymabe: Roger. To stop Factory from using uppercase in tags. 17:24:52 <imcleod> Not done. Should be simple. Need to cut a release once I do it. 17:25:02 <kushal> imcleod, Thank you :) 17:25:12 <kushal> We love our upstreams :D 17:25:43 <dustymabe> imcleod: thanks 17:25:45 <imcleod> kushal: It's Stockholm syndrome.... ;-) 17:25:58 <maxamillion> <3 17:26:11 <kushal> imcleod, haha 17:26:16 <gholms> Heh 17:26:33 <kushal> #topic Fedora 23 Retrospective https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/135 17:26:46 <kushal> I have updated the ticket. No other comments yet. 17:27:12 <kushal> I will be doing some public meetings+screencasts to train the volunteers. 17:27:23 <kushal> Any tips + suggestions? 17:28:27 <dustymabe> kushal: sounds good to me 17:28:53 <kushal> fhackdroid, trishnag hi btw. 17:29:27 <kushal> They along with adimania already put in their names (brave people) for this task :D 17:29:36 <trishnag> Hi everyone :) 17:30:03 <kushal> fhackdroid, trishnag do you mind to give a one/two line introduction here? 17:30:14 <kushal> We have time today :) 17:30:21 <kushal> And we all know adimania :D 17:30:41 <fhackdroid> kushal, hi 17:31:01 <adimania> :) 17:32:10 <dustymabe> fhackdroid: adimania trishnag ++++ 17:32:48 <fhackdroid> I am an undergrad student from india. I love to contribute to OSS , I have been a part of dgplug which is lead by kushal and he is the one who helped us to start contributing :) 17:33:03 <fhackdroid> I am really happy to be a part of this :) 17:33:21 <kushal> Btw, fhackdroid and trishnag both regularly contribute to other parts in Fedora Infra. 17:34:29 <kushal> prkumar, praveen kumar is here 17:34:46 <kushal> I think there was ticket with your name mentioned in it. 17:35:02 <fhackdroid> yeah have been doing minor fixes in bodhi, pkgdb2 and right now I am trying to contribute to pagure 17:35:02 <prkumar> kushal: If it is #121 then I sent a PR already 17:35:07 <kushal> https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/121 17:35:25 <kushal> prkumar, thanks 17:35:29 <trishnag> Hi, I am from India,a FOSS enthusiast. I have been a part of dgplug. I am now working on nongatingtests(tunirtests) for Fedora cloud, one of the volunteers and really enjoying what I am doing :) 17:35:41 <kushal> prkumar, can you please update the ticket? 17:36:35 <kushal> Moving to next ticket. 17:36:36 <kushal> #topic Produce updated cloud base images monthly https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/138 17:36:48 <prkumar> kushal: sure, will do that now, I was waiting for review from scollier. 17:37:41 <kushal> dustymabe, I guess we can go ahead and do the same level of testing this time, and give a push to releng for a real release. 17:37:50 <kushal> What do you all think? 17:38:53 <maxamillion> I think we need to have a meeting and scope out exactly what the requirements and desired deliverables are for the monthly updates 17:39:12 <maxamillion> testing is only one part of it 17:39:13 <dustymabe> kushal: right 17:39:19 <dustymabe> maxamillion: sounds good to me 17:39:41 <maxamillion> fedimg gives us a lot for free in ec2 land but we'll have to sort out other things and hammer down exactly what we want to deliver as a WG for montly updates 17:39:44 <kushal> maxamillion,+1 17:40:09 <dustymabe> maxamillion: I would say it would be just the fedora cloud base x86_64 qcow/raw/vagrant images 17:40:16 <dustymabe> as well as ec2 17:40:21 <dustymabe> not i386 17:40:27 <kushal> I have some update for fedimg, will talk in open floor. 17:40:34 <maxamillion> but ultimately we should be able to piggy back on a lot of the great work that kushal and sayan have done on AutoCloud for the Two Week Atomic change 17:40:41 <dustymabe> maxamillion: right 17:40:47 <maxamillion> kushal: +1 17:40:48 <dustymabe> that is if we can get images building again :) 17:40:53 <maxamillion> dustymabe: heh 17:40:57 <kushal> dustymabe, hehe 17:41:04 <dustymabe> imcleod: is overloaded 17:41:13 <dustymabe> i may try to help him out if I can get some access 17:41:16 <kushal> #clone imcleod 17:41:36 <imcleod> dustymabe: So... I can reproduce the error that seems to be the root cause here, more or less at will on a bare metal F23 test box. 17:42:15 <imcleod> dustymabe: The issue, specifically, is that our install VM image is dying in less than a second, well before anything like a kernel boot has even been attempted. 17:42:22 <dustymabe> imcleod: ok. is that something I can do at home? 17:42:24 <imcleod> dustymabe: And it is giving no indication at all of why... 17:42:28 <dustymabe> "try" at home 17:42:29 <imcleod> dustymabe: Quite possibly. 17:42:34 <imcleod> DO you have F23? 17:42:42 <dustymabe> I have F22 17:42:55 <imcleod> dustymabe: Thus far I've only been able to reproduce on F23 bare metal. 17:43:01 <dustymabe> ok 17:43:23 <imcleod> So, if you can get a bare metal machine with F23, you may be able to help. I did not have success reproducing in nested virt, which itself is an interesting data point. 17:43:25 * dustymabe needs to upgrade to f23 17:43:51 <kushal> imcleod, I will upgrade one of my server to F23 tomorrow 17:43:57 <kushal> and help you out. 17:44:22 <kushal> imcleod, Can you please write down the steps, or should I just try to build a latest image? 17:44:41 <imcleod> kusha: I'll whip something up. 17:44:48 <dustymabe> imcleod: thanks 17:45:00 <kushal> imcleod, if it is just building a latest image on baremetal f23, I will do it. 17:45:04 <kushal> I have the docs ready :D 17:45:39 <kushal> The last formal ticket. 17:45:41 <kushal> #topic Producing 2 week atomic images https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/139 17:46:42 <kushal> I have added a test for autocloud to run for the above mentioned bug. 17:46:50 <kushal> I will deploy these new tests next week. 17:46:52 <jbrooks> imcleod, if you point me to the image some documentation of what's up, I can help w/ bare metal testing 17:46:59 <kushal> or rather end of the week. 17:47:02 <dustymabe> kushal: thanks.. 17:47:18 <kushal> jbrooks, https://worknotes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/cloudimages.html#imagefactory 17:47:27 <imcleod> K. dustymabe, kushal, jbrooks: I'll get a reproducer script up in github in the next 10-15 and then chat it out on #fedora-cloud 17:47:32 <prkumar> Today I als install f23, kushal let me know if you need any more help. 17:47:57 <jbrooks> kushal, sweet, thanks 17:48:02 <kushal> prkumar, sadly we are in India, we need bandwidth to do these things :) 17:48:28 <dustymabe> ok 17:48:34 <dustymabe> next topic? 17:48:40 <kushal> #topic Open Floor 17:48:48 <kushal> I have an update related to fedimg. 17:49:21 <kushal> We had a meeting with sayan (who is sleeping right now) and mattdm and threebean about fedimg. 17:49:29 <kushal> We have the issues created from the discussion. 17:49:58 <kushal> Sayan will talk to gholms and update fedimg so that it can push the AMI(s) directly without creating any instance. 17:50:26 <kushal> fedimg will not do any more testing, the whole testing of AMI will come down to autocloud. 17:50:58 <kushal> We had this meeting yesterday night, sayan will come up with a roadmap for fedimg following the issues on github. 17:51:08 <kushal> https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedimg 17:51:18 <dustymabe> kushal: sweet 17:51:38 <gholms> Neat 17:51:38 <kushal> As of few hours back, I have added the power of using AWS in tunir, Autocloud still needs work though. 17:52:11 <kushal> I am EOF 17:52:12 <kushal> :) 17:52:17 <kushal> Any thing else? 17:53:11 <kushal> If nothing else, we can close down this meeting. 17:53:16 <kushal> 5 17:53:19 <kushal> 4 17:53:21 <kushal> 3 17:53:24 <kushal> 2 17:53:27 <kushal> 1 17:53:31 <kushal> #endmeeting