17:00:44 <kushal> #startmeeting Cloud WG
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17:00:48 <number80> o/
17:00:50 <kushal> #topic Roll Call
17:00:56 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal
17:00:57 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <mail@kushaldas.in>
17:01:00 <number80> .hello hguemar
17:01:01 <zodbot> number80: hguemar 'Haïkel Guémar' <karlthered@gmail.com>
17:01:13 <jbrooks> .hello jasonbrooks
17:01:14 <zodbot> jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'Jason Brooks' <JBROOKS@REDHAT.COM>
17:01:22 <trishnag> .hellomynameis trishnag
17:01:23 <zodbot> trishnag: trishnag 'Trishna Guha' <trishnaguha17@gmail.com>
17:01:27 <fhackdroid> .hello farhaan
17:01:28 <zodbot> fhackdroid: farhaan 'Farhaan Bukhsh' <farhaan.bukhsh@gmail.com>
17:01:32 <dustymabe> .hellomynameis dustymabe
17:01:33 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
17:01:38 <maxamillion> .hello maxamillion
17:01:39 <zodbot> maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' <maxamillion@gmail.com>
17:02:18 <kushal> Anyone else ?
17:03:25 <kushal> #topic Action items from last meeting
17:03:27 <kushal> * kushal will blog post about getting more volunteers for manual qa +
17:03:27 <kushal> test coverage.
17:03:27 <kushal> * dustymabe will do a PR to add ansible steps in
17:03:27 <kushal> https://github.com/fedora-cloud/fedoracloud
17:03:28 <kushal> * rtnpro will help to create nulecule examples in fedora-dockerfiles
17:03:43 <kushal> I did a blog post.
17:03:45 <kushal> https://kushaldas.in/posts/need-help-to-test-fedora-cloud-images.html
17:04:09 <dustymabe> I did the fpaste for ansible but I didn't send a PR
17:04:10 <kushal> A few volunteers signed up https://github.com/kushaldas/tunirtests/wiki#list-of-new-volunteers-for-cloud-image-testing
17:04:27 <dustymabe> kushal: yay
17:04:33 <kushal> dustymabe, I can commit it, but then I will not have you as author :)
17:04:42 <kushal> I mean in git commits
17:04:54 <imcleod> .hellomynameis imcleod
17:04:55 <zodbot> imcleod: imcleod 'Ian McLeod' <imcleod@redhat.com>
17:05:09 <kushal> I also opened a ticket to get cloud access to these volunteers.
17:05:12 <kushal> imcleod, hello there
17:05:37 <rtnpro> .fas rtnpro
17:05:37 <zodbot> rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' <rtnpro@gmail.com>
17:06:12 <dustymabe> kushal: should we do like some of the other content there and just point to the original articile?
17:06:15 <kushal> rtnpro, any update from your side?
17:06:20 <dustymabe> so point a subsection to the fed mag post?
17:06:41 <rtnpro> kushal, I started taking a look at the task
17:06:52 <kushal> dustymabe, or we can keep the whole there, because we will update this as of when required
17:07:11 <kushal> rtnpro, can you please create ticket in the trac so that we know the update?
17:07:11 <rtnpro> kushal, I need to discuss with scollier to find the right way to do it
17:07:18 <kushal> rtnpro, good.
17:07:20 <rtnpro> kushal, ok
17:07:42 <kushal> #action rtnpro to open a trac ticket to create nulecule examples in fedora-dockerfiles
17:09:39 * adimania is sorry for being late
17:09:59 <kushal> adimania, welcome
17:10:03 <kushal> just starting
17:10:08 <kushal> Moving to tickets.
17:10:16 <kushal> #topic Fedora Cloud FAD (late 2015/early 2016) https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/115
17:10:49 <dustymabe> I updated the ticket with some comments
17:11:01 <dustymabe> move to next ticket unless someone else has anything
17:11:25 <kushal> Anyone else?
17:11:33 <kushal> Moving to next.
17:11:35 <kushal> #topic Migrate all Dockerfiles / Images to systemd where possible https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/121
17:12:38 <kushal> sadly praveenkumar is missing here.
17:12:43 <kushal> adimania, do you know anything
17:12:44 <kushal> ?
17:12:59 <adimania> nope. I am not working on this one
17:13:33 <kushal> Okay
17:13:43 <kushal> i will ping praveenkumar and scoiler to know more.
17:14:04 <kushal> #topic fedora-dockerfiles: Clean up READMEs.	 https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/122
17:14:09 <kushal> gholms, welcome :)
17:14:15 <gholms> o/
17:14:33 <adimania> anyone heard about this one from coolsvap?
17:14:48 <kushal> Nope
17:15:06 <kushal> I am not in pune right now, means can not ask him face to face.
17:15:17 <kushal> But I will send the message.
17:15:37 <kushal> #action kushal will ask coolsvap for an update on https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/122
17:15:56 <kushal> Moving next
17:16:00 <kushal> #topic Document process for using Fedora-Dockerfile branches https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/123
17:16:40 <adimania> This is done from my point of view. I want someone to review the doc and then we can close it.
17:17:06 <kushal> Who can review the doc? Any volunteers?
17:17:25 <maxamillion> I'll review
17:17:31 <dustymabe> maxamillion: thanks!
17:17:42 <adimania> cool. here is the link: https://github.com/fedora-cloud/Fedora-Dockerfiles/wiki/Guidelines-for-Creating-Dockerfiles#branches-in-fedora-dockerfiles-repo
17:17:50 <kushal> #action maxamillion will review https://github.com/fedora-cloud/Fedora-Dockerfiles/wiki/Guidelines-for-Creating-Dockerfiles#branches-in-fedora-dockerfiles-repo
17:17:53 <kushal> :)
17:17:57 <kushal> maxamillion, Thank you :)
17:18:31 <maxamillion> certainly
17:18:35 <kushal> #topic Fedora-Dockerfiles examples for Kubernetes https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125
17:19:32 <adimania> I have added a repo for review which has 1 example each for pod, replication controller and service
17:19:45 <kushal> Again, who can review it?
17:20:08 <adimania> if this looks good, probably, we can move the repo or the content to WG's github.
17:20:24 <adimania> I think rtnpro was going to review and help in writing nulecule spec
17:21:00 <adimania> but if anyone else is interested, please go ahead. the more the better. :)
17:21:05 <kushal> rtnpro, ?
17:21:45 <rtnpro> adimania, I did not find time today to work on it
17:22:08 <rtnpro> adimania, I will push a PR with the Nulecule file tomorrow
17:22:53 <adimania> rtnpro, great.
17:23:17 <kushal> #action rtnpro will push a PR with Nulecule file for https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125
17:23:20 <kushal> rtnpro, Thanks :)
17:23:31 <kushal> #topic make docker archived image get imported with lowercase tag https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/131
17:24:09 <dustymabe> so I think imcleod opened an upstream issue on this
17:24:31 <kushal> imcleod, ^^
17:24:41 <kushal> https://github.com/redhat-imaging/imagefactory/issues/359
17:24:43 <imcleod> dustymabe: Roger.  To stop Factory from using uppercase in tags.
17:24:52 <imcleod> Not done.  Should be simple.  Need to cut a release once I do it.
17:25:02 <kushal> imcleod, Thank you :)
17:25:12 <kushal> We love our upstreams :D
17:25:43 <dustymabe> imcleod: thanks
17:25:45 <imcleod> kushal: It's Stockholm syndrome.... ;-)
17:25:58 <maxamillion> <3
17:26:11 <kushal> imcleod, haha
17:26:16 <gholms> Heh
17:26:33 <kushal> #topic Fedora 23 Retrospective https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/135
17:26:46 <kushal> I have updated the ticket. No other comments yet.
17:27:12 <kushal> I will be doing some public meetings+screencasts to train the volunteers.
17:27:23 <kushal> Any tips + suggestions?
17:28:27 <dustymabe> kushal: sounds good to me
17:28:53 <kushal> fhackdroid, trishnag hi btw.
17:29:27 <kushal> They along with adimania already put in their names (brave people) for this task :D
17:29:36 <trishnag> Hi everyone :)
17:30:03 <kushal> fhackdroid, trishnag do you mind to give a one/two line introduction here?
17:30:14 <kushal> We have time today :)
17:30:21 <kushal> And we all know adimania :D
17:30:41 <fhackdroid> kushal, hi
17:31:01 <adimania> :)
17:32:10 <dustymabe> fhackdroid: adimania trishnag ++++
17:32:48 <fhackdroid> I am an undergrad student from india. I love to contribute to OSS , I have been a part of dgplug which is lead by kushal and he is the one who helped us to start contributing :)
17:33:03 <fhackdroid> I am really happy to be a part of this :)
17:33:21 <kushal> Btw, fhackdroid and trishnag both regularly contribute to other parts in Fedora Infra.
17:34:29 <kushal> prkumar, praveen kumar is here
17:34:46 <kushal> I think there was ticket with your name mentioned in it.
17:35:02 <fhackdroid> yeah have been doing minor fixes in bodhi, pkgdb2 and right now I am trying to contribute to pagure
17:35:02 <prkumar> kushal: If it is #121 then I sent a PR already
17:35:07 <kushal> https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/121
17:35:25 <kushal> prkumar, thanks
17:35:29 <trishnag> Hi, I am from India,a FOSS enthusiast. I have been a part of dgplug. I am now working on nongatingtests(tunirtests) for Fedora cloud, one of the volunteers and really enjoying what I am doing :)
17:35:41 <kushal> prkumar, can you please update the ticket?
17:36:35 <kushal> Moving to next ticket.
17:36:36 <kushal> #topic Produce updated cloud base images monthly https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/138
17:36:48 <prkumar> kushal: sure, will do that now, I was waiting for review from scollier.
17:37:41 <kushal> dustymabe, I guess we can go ahead and do the same level of testing this time, and give a push to releng for a real release.
17:37:50 <kushal> What do you all think?
17:38:53 <maxamillion> I think we need to have a meeting and scope out exactly what the requirements and desired deliverables are for the monthly updates
17:39:12 <maxamillion> testing is only one part of it
17:39:13 <dustymabe> kushal: right
17:39:19 <dustymabe> maxamillion: sounds good to me
17:39:41 <maxamillion> fedimg gives us a lot for free in ec2 land but we'll have to sort out other things and hammer down exactly what we want to deliver as a WG for montly updates
17:39:44 <kushal> maxamillion,+1
17:40:09 <dustymabe> maxamillion: I would say it would be just the fedora cloud base x86_64 qcow/raw/vagrant images
17:40:16 <dustymabe> as well as ec2
17:40:21 <dustymabe> not i386
17:40:27 <kushal> I have some update for fedimg, will talk in open floor.
17:40:34 <maxamillion> but ultimately we should be able to piggy back on a lot of the great work that kushal and sayan have done on AutoCloud for the Two Week Atomic change
17:40:41 <dustymabe> maxamillion: right
17:40:47 <maxamillion> kushal: +1
17:40:48 <dustymabe> that is if we can get images building again :)
17:40:53 <maxamillion> dustymabe: heh
17:40:57 <kushal> dustymabe, hehe
17:41:04 <dustymabe> imcleod: is overloaded
17:41:13 <dustymabe> i may try to help him out if I can get some access
17:41:16 <kushal> #clone imcleod
17:41:36 <imcleod> dustymabe: So... I can reproduce the error that seems to be the root cause here, more or less at will on a bare metal F23 test box.
17:42:15 <imcleod> dustymabe: The issue, specifically, is that our install VM image is dying in less than a second, well before anything like a kernel boot has even been attempted.
17:42:22 <dustymabe> imcleod: ok. is that something I can do at home?
17:42:24 <imcleod> dustymabe: And it is giving no indication at all of why...
17:42:28 <dustymabe> "try" at home
17:42:29 <imcleod> dustymabe: Quite possibly.
17:42:34 <imcleod> DO you have F23?
17:42:42 <dustymabe> I have F22
17:42:55 <imcleod> dustymabe: Thus far I've only been able to reproduce on F23 bare metal.
17:43:01 <dustymabe> ok
17:43:23 <imcleod> So, if you can get a bare metal machine with F23, you may be able to help.  I did not have success reproducing in nested virt, which itself is an interesting data point.
17:43:25 * dustymabe needs to upgrade to f23
17:43:51 <kushal> imcleod, I will upgrade one of my server to F23 tomorrow
17:43:57 <kushal> and help you out.
17:44:22 <kushal> imcleod, Can you please write down the steps, or should I just try to build a latest image?
17:44:41 <imcleod> kusha: I'll whip something up.
17:44:48 <dustymabe> imcleod: thanks
17:45:00 <kushal> imcleod, if it is just building a latest image on baremetal f23, I will do it.
17:45:04 <kushal> I have the docs ready :D
17:45:39 <kushal> The last formal ticket.
17:45:41 <kushal> #topic Producing 2 week atomic images https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/139
17:46:42 <kushal> I have added a test for autocloud to run for the above mentioned bug.
17:46:50 <kushal> I will deploy these new tests next week.
17:46:52 <jbrooks> imcleod, if you point me to the image some documentation of what's up, I can help w/ bare metal testing
17:46:59 <kushal> or rather end of the week.
17:47:02 <dustymabe> kushal: thanks..
17:47:18 <kushal> jbrooks, https://worknotes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/cloudimages.html#imagefactory
17:47:27 <imcleod> K.  dustymabe, kushal, jbrooks: I'll get a reproducer script up in github in the next 10-15 and then chat it out on #fedora-cloud
17:47:32 <prkumar> Today I als install f23, kushal let me know if you need any more help.
17:47:57 <jbrooks> kushal, sweet, thanks
17:48:02 <kushal> prkumar, sadly we are in India, we need bandwidth to do these things :)
17:48:28 <dustymabe> ok
17:48:34 <dustymabe> next topic?
17:48:40 <kushal> #topic Open Floor
17:48:48 <kushal> I have an update related to fedimg.
17:49:21 <kushal> We had a meeting with sayan (who is sleeping right now) and mattdm and threebean about fedimg.
17:49:29 <kushal> We have the issues created from the discussion.
17:49:58 <kushal> Sayan will talk to gholms and update fedimg so that it can push the AMI(s) directly without creating any instance.
17:50:26 <kushal> fedimg will not do any more testing, the whole testing of AMI will come down to autocloud.
17:50:58 <kushal> We had this meeting yesterday night, sayan will come up with a roadmap for fedimg following the issues on github.
17:51:08 <kushal> https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedimg
17:51:18 <dustymabe> kushal: sweet
17:51:38 <gholms> Neat
17:51:38 <kushal> As of few hours back, I have added the power of using AWS in tunir, Autocloud still needs work though.
17:52:11 <kushal> I am EOF
17:52:12 <kushal> :)
17:52:17 <kushal> Any thing else?
17:53:11 <kushal> If nothing else, we can close down this meeting.
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17:53:31 <kushal> #endmeeting