17:00:27 #startmeeting fpc 17:00:27 #meetingname fpc 17:00:27 #topic Roll Call 17:00:28 Meeting started Thu Dec 17 17:00:27 2015 UTC. The chair is geppetto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:28 The meeting name has been set to 'fpc' 17:00:28 The meeting name has been set to 'fpc' 17:01:04 Good Morning 17:01:10 heey 17:01:25 geppetto limburgher mbooth orionp racor Rathann SmootherFr0gZ tibbs|w tomspur: FPC ping 17:01:47 Hi. 17:01:53 #chair tomspur 17:01:53 Current chairs: geppetto tomspur 17:01:54 Howdy 17:01:58 #chair tibbs 17:01:58 Current chairs: geppetto tibbs tomspur 17:02:09 Hi 17:02:14 #chair mbooth 17:02:14 Current chairs: geppetto mbooth tibbs tomspur 17:02:25 Last meeting of the year for me :-) 17:02:41 yeh, for everyone I think 17:03:05 At least this is the last Thursday I work in 2015 17:03:09 hello 17:03:14 #chair orionp 17:03:14 Current chairs: geppetto mbooth orionp tibbs tomspur 17:03:44 If everyone really wanted to do one just before new years, I could probably make it 17:03:59 #topic Schedule 17:04:02 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging%40lists.fedoraproject.org/message/FLS2WNHGB7N5KGFPDJWMLPJZWJF3BD4P/ 17:04:11 Hell, I'm always online in some capacity. 17:04:32 #chair racor 17:04:32 Current chairs: geppetto mbooth orionp racor tibbs tomspur 17:04:36 #topic #547 SourceURL addition/clarification - Submodules 17:04:43 .fpc 547 17:04:44 geppetto: #547 (SourceURL addition/clarification - Git Hosting Services) – fpc - https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/547 17:04:47 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/547 17:05:21 Note that you should ignore everything before comment 10 17:05:32 Someone just reopened the ticket instead of starting a new one 17:06:05 Yeah... it wasn't me... LOL 17:06:09 do we still want testing from gitlab/bitbucket ? 17:06:30 or is git git? 17:06:39 When I wrote the doc, I wanted to make sure everything worked with all vendors 17:06:49 I didn't test that 17:07:02 Is it possible to quickly test them now? 17:07:07 It "should" work, but haven't personally verified 17:07:23 If we quickly find a project with submodules over there... 17:07:35 Is it just simpler instructions, or does --recursive do extra things? 17:07:51 I think it is just simpler instructions 17:08:16 * geppetto nods 17:08:23 on second thought... it's a git command, if it doesn't work then correct course would be to open a bug with bitbucket or gitlab 17:08:23 I'm +1 17:08:43 Yeah, this just seems like git cli stuff 17:08:47 +1 17:09:03 even EL6 git should support it 17:09:18 yup 17:10:48 Is there a difference between --recursive and --recurse-submodules ? 17:11:01 Seems the same, just want to double check 17:12:03 looks like an alias 17:12:21 according to man git-clone 17:12:47 not present in git 1.7.1 (el6) , but it's a better name 17:13:20 so --recurse-submodules is in el6 git? 17:13:37 no, it isn't 17:13:44 ahh 17:14:17 If a repo doesn't contain a submodule "--recursive" just does nothing. 17:14:20 But I think we can assume most people aren't building packages on el6 17:14:23 I'm also +1 17:14:33 If it works, I'm fine with it. I don't really see the point, but if it's been tested and working then fine. 17:14:51 * geppetto nods 17:14:57 This is just for generating tarballs and doesn't get into the spec do I don't particularly think EL6 compat matters. 17:14:58 So we're at +3 now 17:15:25 hi 17:15:31 sorry for being late 17:15:35 At least I would assume that someone doing packaging would have access to something from this decade. 17:16:02 #chair Rathann 17:16:02 Current chairs: Rathann geppetto mbooth orionp racor tibbs tomspur 17:16:34 Rathann: Only looking at comment 10 onwards of 547 17:17:32 I'm +1 too 17:18:05 I've never used git submodules, but what you say seems sound to me: +1 17:18:45 Ok, we're at +5 now … want to vote for the record Rathann and tibbs ? 17:18:47 +1 17:19:30 Oh, sorry, I forgot to type the +1. 17:19:54 :) 17:20:31 #action SourceURL addition/clarification - Submodules (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) 17:21:07 #topic #583 Node.js Guideline Addition 17:21:15 .fpc 583 17:21:16 geppetto: #583 (Node.js Guideline Addition) – fpc - https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/583 17:21:19 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/583 17:21:42 I know nothing about JS or nodejs … but this seemed pretty trivial to me 17:21:48 Seems reasonable to me. 17:21:56 +1 17:21:58 I mean if you can't load the thing.... 17:22:16 But then you could do the same for pretty much any interpreted language. 17:22:30 Which isn't actually a bad idea, I guess, but not really in scope. 17:22:33 +1 17:23:54 +1 in general, just thinking where to put it. %check is already mentioned in another context there: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Node.js#.25check 17:24:40 So possibly below %install 17:25:14 yes, +1 17:25:49 this does mean that all Requires: are also BuildRequires: 17:26:07 not sure if that's the intended effect 17:26:41 so I'd say s/MUST/SHOULD/ 17:26:42 Yeh, I guess 17:27:09 Rathann: That's already the case with nodejs anyway, as I understand things. 17:27:13 ok 17:27:17 +1 anyway 17:27:41 +1 17:27:56 Ok, that's +5 17:28:03 +1 17:28:12 Having fewer BuildRequires is not advantage enough to get fewer testing... 17:28:20 Vote for the record, mbooth ? 17:28:42 It might be nice if we had a CheckRequires too 17:28:45 tomspur: I agree. 17:28:45 Oops, sorry, got distracted 17:28:52 But meh 17:29:02 The only real issue there would be cyclical build dependencies. 17:29:56 Eh, +1, for the record 17:30:42 #action Node.js Guideline Addition, to do loads in %check (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) 17:31:35 #topic Open Floor 17:31:45 Ok, it doesn't look like much has happened on the older tickets 17:32:11 FWIW 566 (filetriggers) also stuck behind a couple of bugs 17:33:52 Anything anyone else wants to bring up? 17:34:17 nothing from me this week 17:34:24 There is a badge for being member of FESCo, how about asking for a FPC one? 17:34:50 I guess we're cancelling the next two meetings as they fall on Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve 17:35:03 Yeh 17:35:24 Unless there'4 four of you that really want to be here on New Yers eve, at which point I could make that 17:35:49 If epel wanted to allow EPEL only packages installed into different prefixes, would that have to go through the FPC 17:36:52 maybe 17:39:21 hmm 17:39:24 :) 17:40:14 #endmeeting