15:02:07 <tflink> #startmeeting fedora-qadevel
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15:02:07 <tflink> #topic Roll Call
15:02:15 * mkrizek is here
15:02:31 * jskladan is here
15:04:00 * kparal is here
15:04:06 <kparal> tflink: thanks for ping
15:04:41 <tflink> np
15:04:46 <tflink> let's get this party started
15:04:54 <tflink> #topic Announcements and Information
15:05:05 <tflink> #info Taskotron staging is running disposable clients - tflink
15:05:05 <tflink> #info fmn.rules for taskotron fedmsgs - mkrizek
15:05:26 * kparal is still struggling with dnf metadata
15:05:48 <tflink> the last image I built had the dnf makecache in $post
15:05:51 <tflink> %post
15:06:11 <kparal> great
15:06:24 <tflink> probably should build a new one today
15:06:36 <tflink> and start figuring out where to build them not on my machines :)
15:06:39 <jskladan> #info Pull request to fix ImgFac's raw image download url endpoint on Github
15:06:40 <jskladan> #link https://github.com/redhat-imaging/imagefactory/pull/364
15:07:09 <tflink> jskladan: I'll start poking people if there's no response by later this week
15:07:22 <jskladan> tflink: how is the image building? I'm still mostly getting timeouts because of the cloud-init stuff
15:07:47 <tflink> it's working for me and working most of the time in dev and stg
15:07:54 <tflink> both should be using the image I built last week
15:08:21 * jskladan shrugs... I don't know what's wrong with me then... But as long as it works where it needs to...
15:09:04 <tflink> yeah, I'm not sure what's going wrong
15:09:19 <tflink> you're using the latest testcloud, right?
15:09:31 <tflink> I suppose this may be better saved for not in meeting
15:09:42 <tflink> any other questions, comments, infos?
15:09:48 <jskladan> yup, we can have a look at it once you are in Brno...
15:10:19 <tflink> works for me
15:11:08 <tflink> #topic Disposable Clients Release
15:11:24 <tflink> I think we're mostly ready to get disposable clients into production
15:11:41 <tflink> we'll have to keep a close eye on it and make sure we're manually rescheduling jobs that failed execution, though
15:12:10 <tflink> the other approach would be to wait until after devconf when we're not quite so distracted
15:12:23 <tflink> thoughts?
15:12:24 <kparal> why do we need to manually reschedule jobs?
15:12:32 <jskladan> ^^
15:13:32 <tflink> because there's no way to automatically reschedule them if they fail execution
15:13:49 <tflink> note that by fail execution, I mean when there's a problem with the VM or something like that
15:13:55 <tflink> not if the check itself fails
15:13:59 <jskladan> oh, cool
15:14:18 <tflink> which is probably something that should be added in the not-so-distant future :)
15:14:20 <kparal> for depcheck and upgradepath, we don't mind that much, do we?
15:14:25 <tflink> true
15:14:32 <kparal> and rpmlint is not really important
15:14:38 <tflink> good point
15:14:50 <kparal> just saying, in case we want to save some time :)
15:14:52 <tflink> so I'm over-thinking things :)
15:15:25 <tflink> thoughts on redeploying production on Tuesday or Wednesday?
15:15:56 <kparal> we also don't have a rescheduling mechanism if e.g. koji or bodhi times out. I think it's a similar situation
15:16:08 <tflink> true
15:16:25 <kparal> how hard is to revert if it explodes on tue/wed?
15:16:31 <tflink> it'll matter more when we have more checks that aren't quite as "scheduling resilient" as upgradepath/depcheck
15:16:48 <tflink> shouldn't be too bad
15:17:02 <tflink> some reinstalls, git reverting of templates
15:17:29 <tflink> we'll need to update all the taskotron local playbooks and docs soon, as well
15:18:02 <kparal> in that case tue/wed sounds ok to me
15:18:41 <jskladan> ditto
15:19:43 <tflink> sounds like we have a time, then
15:19:48 <tflink> well, date
15:20:15 <tflink> mkrizek: any thoughts on what times would work better for you?
15:20:30 <tflink> assuming you're available to help with the redeploy
15:20:52 <mkrizek> Tue works better
15:22:11 <tflink> thoughts on time?
15:23:20 <mkrizek> I am flexible, your morning/noon works for me
15:23:40 * tflink figures starting about now or doing it early-ish morning for you would make most sense
15:24:02 <mkrizek> yep
15:24:15 <tflink> any preference?
15:25:02 <tflink> as a side note, I want to figure out a different way for migrating data
15:25:12 <tflink> the current "tar everything up" method takes way too long
15:25:37 <mkrizek> either works really, so let's start in the time of today's meeting?
15:25:43 <tflink> sounds good to me
15:25:57 <tflink> anything else on this topic?
15:26:41 <mkrizek> not here
15:27:01 <tflink> moving on, then
15:27:12 <tflink> #topic Image Creation Status
15:27:17 <tflink> I think this'll be pretty quick
15:28:20 <tflink> Just wanted to quickly go over what will probably happen for image generation
15:28:28 <tflink> My understanding is:
15:28:56 <tflink> 1. start with images generated manually, probably done by jskladan or me
15:29:25 <tflink> 2. figure out a spot on one of the qa*.qa boxes to generate images so we don't have to upload so much
15:29:43 <tflink> 3. get jskladan's "get newest image" script deployed to all the client hosts
15:30:06 <tflink> 4. get images building in an automated fashion on a daily-ish basis
15:31:41 <jskladan> sounds good to me
15:31:48 <tflink> cool
15:31:56 <tflink> that's pretty much all I had
15:32:04 <tflink> which brings us to
15:32:09 <tflink> #topic Open Floor
15:32:17 <tflink> Any other topics which folks wanted to bring up?
15:32:43 <jskladan> none here
15:32:53 <kparal> nope
15:33:02 <mkrizek> not here
15:33:16 <tflink> cool
15:33:25 <tflink> time to get to more docs writing, etc. :)
15:33:37 * jskladan *yay*
15:34:02 * tflink is planning to do another release today to get all the docs built etc.
15:34:32 <tflink> jskladan: you're excited about writing docs?
15:34:40 * tflink will have to remember that for future reference
15:34:49 <mkrizek> :D
15:34:59 <tflink> anyhow, thanks for coming everyone
15:35:04 * tflink will send out minutes shortly
15:35:15 <tflink> and assign more docs tasks to jskladan :-D
15:35:19 <tflink> #endmeeting