15:01:37 <tflink> #startmeeting fedora-qadevel 15:01:37 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Feb 15 15:01:37 2016 UTC. The chair is tflink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:37 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:37 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qadevel' 15:01:37 <tflink> #topic Roll Call 15:01:49 * mkrizek 15:02:20 * kparal 15:02:41 <tflink> #chair kparal mkrizek jskladan 15:02:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: jskladan kparal mkrizek tflink 15:02:50 <tflink> since I usually forget to do that 15:03:24 * linuxmodder sits in back row adn learns 15:03:24 * jskladan enjoys the chair 15:03:32 <tflink> I assume no jan or lukas today? 15:04:03 <kparal> doesn't seem so 15:04:32 <tflink> linuxmodder: welcome, feel free to ask questions as you have them 15:04:56 <tflink> ok, let's get started 15:05:14 <tflink> I suspect this'll be a shorter meeting since there's not a whole lot to discuss ATM 15:05:33 <tflink> #topic Announcements and Information 15:05:44 <tflink> nothing was put up in the wiki page - anything to add? 15:06:11 <jskladan> not really, I was mostly slacking on the end of the week :/ 15:06:20 <mkrizek> #info massive disposable clients explosions during mass rebuil, should be at least partially fixed 15:06:36 <kparal> #info posted a patch for forwarding cli options to minions 15:07:04 <kparal> mkrizek: it actually looks completely fixed, yay 15:07:26 <tflink> mkrizek: the fix is 100% in ansible, right? I think you said it was but wanted to confirm 15:07:44 <linuxmodder> getting back into the f24 test swing as is so figured I'd hang out and straddle back in tflink 15:07:49 <mkrizek> the config is in ansible, yes 15:08:17 <tflink> awesome, glad to see that fixed 15:08:25 <mkrizek> but I saw a few "couldn't boot in x seconds" crashes on Friday :/ 15:08:35 <mkrizek> I haven't investigated further though 15:09:13 <tflink> a couple is better than the hundreds we were seeing :) 15:09:43 <mkrizek> true 15:09:52 <tflink> not sure how much effort it's worth, though. i'd rather put energy into a system for catching crashed (our fault) jobs and rescheduling them 15:10:11 <tflink> whether that ends up being part of execdb, trigger or something new 15:10:30 <mkrizek> agreed, that's been on my todo list for some time now 15:10:49 <tflink> ah, the todo list of doom :) 15:11:16 <tflink> any other announcement/information items? 15:11:18 <tflink> oh 15:11:34 <kparal> hey, I reserve the right to have the todo list of doom for myself 15:11:52 <tflink> #info qadevel changes coming soon - phab will be moving to phab.qa.fedoraproject.org 15:12:08 <kparal> we might need to fix some hyperlinks 15:12:15 <kparal> in the docs, on wiki, etc 15:12:16 <tflink> kparal: if you really want it, I can send you the todo lists that I've been compiling over the last month 15:12:19 <tflink> yeah 15:12:28 <mkrizek> kparal: everyone has a right to be doomed 15:12:37 <tflink> there should be good enough redirects that it shouldn't be an issue but there's that S-word again 15:12:46 <tflink> twice, even 15:13:16 <tflink> moving on, then 15:13:29 <tflink> #topic Upcoming Work 15:14:10 <tflink> we ended up spending quite a bit of time around devconf discussing the roadmap and priorities 15:14:34 <linuxmodder> for any doc stuff feel free to ping me 15:14:48 <linuxmodder> I am working on several of the guides for 24 release 15:14:48 <tflink> most of which hasn't made its way into phab yet but the rough outline is in an org-mode doc that I've been working off of 15:15:32 <tflink> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/322896/55493271/ 15:15:47 <tflink> that's the current state of the "draft priority" doc I have 15:16:03 <tflink> I'm planning to get that taken care of today, I hope once phab is upgraded in prod 15:16:57 <tflink> for the moment, I think that folks have tasks 15:17:18 <tflink> jskladan: any thoughts on when the image bits will be wrapped up? IIRC, it was pretty close last week 15:17:36 <tflink> kparal: do you have any tasks lined up after T596 is done? 15:18:16 <kparal> atm I'm looking at how our stdout and stderr streams interleave quite badly when they're pushed through paramiko. I have some ideas to improve that 15:18:33 <tflink> kparal: is there a ticket filed for that? 15:18:36 <kparal> nope 15:18:47 <kparal> I just noticed it today, so I started looking into that 15:18:53 <jskladan> I'm going to set up the cron jobs later today, hopefully, and then I'll hook it up in taskotron tomorrow (automatic image discovery, with config as overload) 15:18:56 <tflink> could you file one if you start spending more than an hour or two on it? 15:19:06 <kparal> ok 15:19:24 <tflink> jskladan: i forget, is all the code we need to load the latest image from a dir already in libtaskotron? 15:19:25 <jskladan> kparal: this again... has it been a year already? 15:19:44 <jskladan> tflink: IIRC it is, just not being used 15:19:52 <tflink> even the config option? 15:19:59 <jskladan> nope, that I need to add 15:20:12 <jskladan> we have a general "find a newest image in a dir" function 15:20:15 <kparal> jskladan: it's the same problem in a different place (paramiko instead of buildbot). and for this particular case, I think I can fix it :) 15:20:16 <tflink> either way, so long as it all gets done before we throw any config switches :) 15:20:30 <jskladan> adding a config override is on my plate for tomorrow 15:20:49 <tflink> sounds good 15:20:50 <linuxmodder> the dist-git is for rpm building bits right? 15:20:59 <tflink> linuxmodder: not sure I understand your quesiton 15:22:13 <linuxmodder> on above paste 15:24:15 <tflink> dist-git is the system of git repos used to build packages, yes 15:24:15 <linuxmodder> the tasks under Dist-Git 15:24:16 <tflink> we're planning to add a "task-dist-git" repo so that packagers and interested testers can add automated tasks for packages that they're interested in 15:24:16 <tflink> but the exact details around that are still rather fuzzy 15:25:18 <linuxmodder> so not just maintainers /co maintainers then? 15:25:18 <tflink> a superset of maintainers 15:25:19 <linuxmodder> kinda like cc yourself on rhbz 15:25:20 <tflink> not really - the "task maintainers" would be able to at least update, create and change the automated tasks run against a package 15:25:21 <jskladan> tflink: /me needs to learn to type faster... 15:25:23 <tflink> jskladan: am I answering questions right before you do? 15:25:24 <jskladan> eh, about five seconds faster than me :D 15:25:24 <tflink> mkrizek: do you have enough tasks to keep you busy for a bit? 15:25:24 <tflink> since this seems to have morphed into "tasking" :) 15:26:19 <mkrizek> tflink: for a bit yeah, will ping you once that changes :) 15:26:19 <tflink> sounds good 15:27:06 <tflink> that's pretty much all I had for today, which brings us to ... 15:27:10 <tflink> #topic Open Floor 15:27:23 <tflink> anything that folks want to bring up which wasn't addressed already? 15:27:42 <mkrizek> not that I can think of 15:28:00 <tflink> linuxmodder: I'm not trying to cut you off if you had more questions, just figured that the conversation could easily continue outside the meeting 15:28:36 * jskladan has nothing to add now 15:28:57 * tflink dusts off the patent-pending non-deterministic fuses which haven't been used in a while 15:29:04 <tflink> and lights one 15:29:15 <linuxmodder> tflink, totally understood no prob 15:29:40 <tflink> and ... BOOM 15:29:41 <jskladan> http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3534272.jpg 15:29:47 <tflink> thanks for coming, everyone 15:29:59 * tflink will send out minutes shortly 15:30:23 <tflink> jskladan: some days, yes but that's the wonderful/terrifying thing about the fuse being non-deterministic ... you never know :) 15:30:26 <tflink> #endmeeting