15:01:37 #startmeeting fedora-qadevel 15:01:37 Meeting started Mon Feb 15 15:01:37 2016 UTC. The chair is tflink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:37 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qadevel' 15:01:37 #topic Roll Call 15:01:49 * mkrizek 15:02:20 * kparal 15:02:41 #chair kparal mkrizek jskladan 15:02:41 Current chairs: jskladan kparal mkrizek tflink 15:02:50 since I usually forget to do that 15:03:24 * linuxmodder sits in back row adn learns 15:03:24 * jskladan enjoys the chair 15:03:32 I assume no jan or lukas today? 15:04:03 doesn't seem so 15:04:32 linuxmodder: welcome, feel free to ask questions as you have them 15:04:56 ok, let's get started 15:05:14 I suspect this'll be a shorter meeting since there's not a whole lot to discuss ATM 15:05:33 #topic Announcements and Information 15:05:44 nothing was put up in the wiki page - anything to add? 15:06:11 not really, I was mostly slacking on the end of the week :/ 15:06:20 #info massive disposable clients explosions during mass rebuil, should be at least partially fixed 15:06:36 #info posted a patch for forwarding cli options to minions 15:07:04 mkrizek: it actually looks completely fixed, yay 15:07:26 mkrizek: the fix is 100% in ansible, right? I think you said it was but wanted to confirm 15:07:44 getting back into the f24 test swing as is so figured I'd hang out and straddle back in tflink 15:07:49 the config is in ansible, yes 15:08:17 awesome, glad to see that fixed 15:08:25 but I saw a few "couldn't boot in x seconds" crashes on Friday :/ 15:08:35 I haven't investigated further though 15:09:13 a couple is better than the hundreds we were seeing :) 15:09:43 true 15:09:52 not sure how much effort it's worth, though. i'd rather put energy into a system for catching crashed (our fault) jobs and rescheduling them 15:10:11 whether that ends up being part of execdb, trigger or something new 15:10:30 agreed, that's been on my todo list for some time now 15:10:49 ah, the todo list of doom :) 15:11:16 any other announcement/information items? 15:11:18 oh 15:11:34 hey, I reserve the right to have the todo list of doom for myself 15:11:52 #info qadevel changes coming soon - phab will be moving to phab.qa.fedoraproject.org 15:12:08 we might need to fix some hyperlinks 15:12:15 in the docs, on wiki, etc 15:12:16 kparal: if you really want it, I can send you the todo lists that I've been compiling over the last month 15:12:19 yeah 15:12:28 kparal: everyone has a right to be doomed 15:12:37 there should be good enough redirects that it shouldn't be an issue but there's that S-word again 15:12:46 twice, even 15:13:16 moving on, then 15:13:29 #topic Upcoming Work 15:14:10 we ended up spending quite a bit of time around devconf discussing the roadmap and priorities 15:14:34 for any doc stuff feel free to ping me 15:14:48 I am working on several of the guides for 24 release 15:14:48 most of which hasn't made its way into phab yet but the rough outline is in an org-mode doc that I've been working off of 15:15:32 http://paste.fedoraproject.org/322896/55493271/ 15:15:47 that's the current state of the "draft priority" doc I have 15:16:03 I'm planning to get that taken care of today, I hope once phab is upgraded in prod 15:16:57 for the moment, I think that folks have tasks 15:17:18 jskladan: any thoughts on when the image bits will be wrapped up? IIRC, it was pretty close last week 15:17:36 kparal: do you have any tasks lined up after T596 is done? 15:18:16 atm I'm looking at how our stdout and stderr streams interleave quite badly when they're pushed through paramiko. I have some ideas to improve that 15:18:33 kparal: is there a ticket filed for that? 15:18:36 nope 15:18:47 I just noticed it today, so I started looking into that 15:18:53 I'm going to set up the cron jobs later today, hopefully, and then I'll hook it up in taskotron tomorrow (automatic image discovery, with config as overload) 15:18:56 could you file one if you start spending more than an hour or two on it? 15:19:06 ok 15:19:24 jskladan: i forget, is all the code we need to load the latest image from a dir already in libtaskotron? 15:19:25 kparal: this again... has it been a year already? 15:19:44 tflink: IIRC it is, just not being used 15:19:52 even the config option? 15:19:59 nope, that I need to add 15:20:12 we have a general "find a newest image in a dir" function 15:20:15 jskladan: it's the same problem in a different place (paramiko instead of buildbot). and for this particular case, I think I can fix it :) 15:20:16 either way, so long as it all gets done before we throw any config switches :) 15:20:30 adding a config override is on my plate for tomorrow 15:20:49 sounds good 15:20:50 the dist-git is for rpm building bits right? 15:20:59 linuxmodder: not sure I understand your quesiton 15:22:13 on above paste 15:24:15 dist-git is the system of git repos used to build packages, yes 15:24:15 the tasks under Dist-Git 15:24:16 we're planning to add a "task-dist-git" repo so that packagers and interested testers can add automated tasks for packages that they're interested in 15:24:16 but the exact details around that are still rather fuzzy 15:25:18 so not just maintainers /co maintainers then? 15:25:18 a superset of maintainers 15:25:19 kinda like cc yourself on rhbz 15:25:20 not really - the "task maintainers" would be able to at least update, create and change the automated tasks run against a package 15:25:21 tflink: /me needs to learn to type faster... 15:25:23 jskladan: am I answering questions right before you do? 15:25:24 eh, about five seconds faster than me :D 15:25:24 mkrizek: do you have enough tasks to keep you busy for a bit? 15:25:24 since this seems to have morphed into "tasking" :) 15:26:19 tflink: for a bit yeah, will ping you once that changes :) 15:26:19 sounds good 15:27:06 that's pretty much all I had for today, which brings us to ... 15:27:10 #topic Open Floor 15:27:23 anything that folks want to bring up which wasn't addressed already? 15:27:42 not that I can think of 15:28:00 linuxmodder: I'm not trying to cut you off if you had more questions, just figured that the conversation could easily continue outside the meeting 15:28:36 * jskladan has nothing to add now 15:28:57 * tflink dusts off the patent-pending non-deterministic fuses which haven't been used in a while 15:29:04 and lights one 15:29:15 tflink, totally understood no prob 15:29:40 and ... BOOM 15:29:41 http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3534272.jpg 15:29:47 thanks for coming, everyone 15:29:59 * tflink will send out minutes shortly 15:30:23 jskladan: some days, yes but that's the wonderful/terrifying thing about the fuse being non-deterministic ... you never know :) 15:30:26 #endmeeting